THIS is what Kozik is about to me. Not the day glo and cartoons. This era was what was important. Melding Victor Moscoco and Stanley Mouse with his twisted acid interpretations. Awesome.
I had this along with other Koziks from this era as wallpaper and I did get in trouble. not for this one but for the butthole surfers/flaming lips one I had right in the center. Now I'm the boss and have Butthole Shurfers and Flaminglips poster hanging in my office. Now it's "art" since I'm not a punk temp. I worked with Jason for about a year we have three or four posted under Studio 709 on this site. He has some amazing posters we just couldn't work the studio stuff out.
Couldn't you draw the line of fine art vs. graphic design by the intent of the art/design? To me the nature of a "Graphic Designer" is to be presented with a spatial, conceptual, colour problem and through iterations present the solution. Ideally the client and designer are both pleased with the outcome. A "Fine Artist" can start with a blank canvas and have absolutely no need to ever come up with a solution. They could simply "create." Whether it make sense graphically, solves a problem or not is inconsequential. It's what makes the artist satisfied and to hell with everyone else.
While fine art can be an element of the graphic solution I don't see how a Graphic Design can be considered in itself as traditional fine art. It may be fine and poster design in my book is certainly a form of art but not a Van Gough by any means. Rauschenberg for example is considered a fine art artist. He screen prints, lithos, etc. He has small and large editions. Are they Fine Art? I'd say yes. But what if he has a design that ultimately has "Recent works at SFMOMA April 1 - 30 sponsored by AIGA" as an element of the print? Is it still fine art or has someone, even Robert himself, taken what was fine art and created an advertisement? It's an advertisement at this point.
Jermaine's or Harry Irene's illustrations by themselves are just that. Pieces of illustrated art. If Jermaine's Schatzi Luna poster had no text then you have a picture of a cute little girl in a field. Possibly he painted it for the daughter's parents to frame and hang in the den. In actuality it was created with the intent to advertise that specific show. Thus it's a graphic design using scanned artwork and not fine art. Same with this Ryan Adams. With no info you have a very nice image of the Brooklyn Bridge. Once the info was added it's now a graphic design that advertises the show.
Makes sense to me but what do I know I started out as a ceramics major.
I agree with AA. And by knowing their catalogue very well It's obvious they put a lot of thought into their work. To me thought and concept are the same thing. Whether the design is highly complex or very simple. I hate to keep dragging our Breeders poster into this but it is an extremely simple poster. However that doesn't mean no thought or conceptualization went into it. on the contrary. Everyone who is familiar with the Breeders knows those girls are slobs. Chuck Taylor's , to me , are the epitome of slacker shoe wear. In fact odds are in favor of catching Kim or Kelly with a pair on. So simple concept but thought out to relay what the band is about. Picture the same print with a pair of red pumps. Total failure is what that would be.
Yes AA Art did a really great Teengenrate/Mono Men poster printed on metal like a Japanese Zero with bullet holes and all. It is that very poster that sent me off to design this. I admire great majority of Art's catalogue (I bought his book ;-) ) and I met him a few weeks back and actually showed him this. I explained he was the inspiration and he was EXTREMELY gracious and complimentary. Jeff Kleinsmith also printed a nice Nine Inch Nails poster on metal, welded a nail to it. Two of my favorite designers. I wanted to do something that could possibly be held in those ranks. I've been sitting on this idea for two years waiting on the appropriate performer that fit this old no trespassing style.
This ties into the conversation about the Volante print. As a designer I think you have to consider the aesthetic of the band and their music or any event for that matter. If you do a totally irrelevant design what's the point? I'm guilty of missing from time to time but I really try to fit the piece to the "client." And people, bands, fans, etc. DO notice when you make the effort. A good design should work on lots of levels. I have people point out stuff that sometimes I didn't even consciously add as relevant element. Point is they do look for that.
Anyway don't know if I succeeded on this one but it's a big ass piece of metal and it looks like it's been on a fence for a long time when it was only printed less than a month ago on brand new, shiny aluminum. All the "rust" is paint.