"the chantry bandwagon?
gimme a fucking break im more than capable of thinking for myself."
No argument here. You do however jump on everything Art rips up. Like clockwork.
My point to both of you is back your shit up right off the bat. Statements like "A fuckin ape could do this " or "it looks like really shitty wallpaper or a blanket from walmart" is chickenshit. If you praise something you can say you like it and that's that. If you are criticizing do the artist a favor and tell them what really doesn't work so they can choose to improve if need be. Your approach is always negative and you are "too punk" and "too cool" and "too good" to acknowledge something like this. If you went to art school you should know some things about design and be able compose a solid crit vs. "I hate it"
Art you are a sneaky bastard that's for sure. This was your first, highly inflammatory, comment:
"a fucking ape can do this shit."
Then Chloe climbed on the Chantry bandwagon started spewing her typical bile. Thus prompting my comments. Now You have turned this into a genuine discussion about design. (which is awesome) But why do you have to be such a curmudgeonly fuck about it?
This guy is good and if he's like me he looks up to you quite a bit. Why intentionally try to crush his will to produce by telling him an ape can do work as good as he can? This may not be his best stuff but for someone with five poster on here he's pretty fuckin' consentient with really great potential.
I've been defending you and your art offline to people ever since you went off on that Volante poster and it's been really tough. Why don't you lead off with some decent constructive critique sometime and have a civil discussion about what you know and how you could teach? Why should anyone listen to a nutter rant and shit on stuff at first only to finally get around to an actual discussion. You and Chloe really discredit yourselves with your approach. I'd love to learn more from what you have to offer but I get tired of wadding through the crap to get the good stuff.
Man what a bunch of downers you guys are. Does anyone bashing this know jackshit about the bands? This could be 100% applicable to what it's promoting. This is just like when people flipped out on the Nocturnal Show Print piece with Art calling it "dreadful 'designerly' crap." That design was perfect for what they were promoting maybe this is too. I don't know The Curtains or any of these bands but in looking at Jason's other posters you can tell he's placing some thought in the concept and how it applies to the show or band.
I agree it's a little too close to the AA piece for me but this isn't a bad design or gigposter. The colours work well and the attention to the layout, spatial relationships and font choice are also well done.
I have TONS of respect for your output Art and I also dig what Seripop's accomplished in such a short time but you two collectively bring more negativity to this site than everyone else combined. That's bullshit and a waste of everyone's energy. Why not take your track records and talent and do something positive? At least this guy is creating SOMETHING.
This poster doesn't suck half as much as your shitty attitudes do.
"and the Donnas have always seemed like a joke to me"
"yeah! funny! girls trying to be a rock band! when will they learn?"
Don't get me wrong there are girl rock bands that kick ass it just ain't the Donnas. Bottom is a girl ROCK band. The Runaways, L7, Lunachicks, Babes In Toyland, even Hole had some kick ass stuff. The Donnas are just unoriginal and not rock. Teen pop disguised as pseudo metal/punk. I've seen them. They packed the house with every hipster in town. The whole show came off as a bad joke that everyone was in on except the Donnas.
Sparta is the opener. This is a freebie show put on by the "alternative" station here in town. I'd go to see Sparta but I can't stand Everclear anymore and the Donnas have always seemed like a joke to me.