well, if it's any consolation, i can tell you some horrific stories about starbucks history of ripping off artists. some of them are really awful. don't ever do any freelance work for starbucks without having a lwyer check your contract.
oh, and don't ever, ever work for swatch! my gawd!!
not knocking national geographic - i'm saying that they have people whose job it is to find people swiping their images, and then they go after them. very dangerous for us collage-art folk.
and it wasn't starbucks, it was old navy. and chuck was forced to sue, and they laughed, admitted everything to the point that they were trying to steal his entire style and turn it into their corporate look (in writing and in video depositions, no less!). chuck had to go in and protect his entire design career and style and sue them. it went on for years. they continued to laugh at him and out-spend him on delays and crap and crap. chuck finally won, but it was too late. he won back enough money to just about pay for expenses and old navy had alreADY , FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WALKED AWAY WITH HIS STYLE. SO CHUCK (BRILLIANTLY) WENT ONLINE AND PUT UP A SITE THAT (FOR $) ALLOWS YOU TO STEAL HIS STYLE (woops, my finger hit the cap button. sorry). you can pick an image he made, pick a color scheme he made, put in a back ground he made, and fuck around with it on a light table thing and, voila! you've got a csa design! a self-ripoff design site. you pay for what you finally use. the idea is to kill it as a corporate style for guys like old navy to use anymore. in the meantime chuck has attempted to move into the "product" end of design (clip books, photostaock, etc.) with mixed financial results. he spends a lot setting up his stuff - hard to earn it back.
if you're curious about this site, you can access it through frenchpaper.com.
yeah, it scares the poop out of you. but then, that's the point. i've actually done a cease and desist on a couple of folks before and it works great. everybody turns chickenshit when confronted.
some folks are more nasty at finding you, too. don't ever fuck disney, time-warner (life, time. etc.) national geographic, rolls royce, pepsi, hanna barbara (talk to frank), the estates of both andy warhol and john wayne, and stay away from the characters in that shitty gag-strip in the papers called 'the family circle'.
well, first the estate has to see it. and two, the estate has to prove some sort of damages, and three they have to bring suit (expensive), and four they have to win judgement and five they have to prove profit and six they have to collect...
catch us if you can, dude. this is a game, and you can play any way you want. do the crime, you have to pay the time. but prove it.
i know this contradicts everything i've said, but sometimes, you gotta go for broke...
yeah, i think it's a cool idea too. but the problem is, i did this same thing for a student/concert /art poster back in '76. i'm sure that it was done a million times before. the big problem with aging is you get to see everything done a few times, and it begins to become unimpressive. it's like, how many posters have you seen that plays off the "playing card" idea? millions. every designer thinks up that idea way back when they are just starting out, and thinks they invented it. design 'education' is so lame that it keeps re-inventing the wheel. shit, we got lotsa wheels. seen it, been there.
i guess what i'm saying is that at this point in my "career" i've begun to judge ideas on whether i've already thought of them or not already. when somebody comes up with something i haven't thought of, then i get all excited.
that's not true, either. i still get excited over truly great executions. ya know, i talk too much.
yeah, look under the word"catholic". it says 'gary panter 1979. wow! and what fucking killer show that must have been. (by the way chinas comidas was this crazyass band from seattle. the name i think said 'chinese food' in spanish)