dana's a friend. he thinks it's funny when i insult him - wouldn't want to disappoint. seri - he's a sweetie, one of the best guys i know. he used to be that drummer fior the accused before he wised-up and became a designer. now he's the art director at the la weekly. but he's still a punk.
i only took one design class in my life, and i already knew more than the teacher. i'm totally self-taught in design. however, i went to 'higher' eduction for six years. i ended up pulling a ba (not a bfa) in art with an emphasis in painting. and i hate to paint. i didn't even declare a major until my FINAL QUARTER of college, because if i had, i would have been banned form one department or the other because of collegiate in-fighting. all college really teaches you is how to survive a system trying to destroy you (sorta like the army or a corporation). you design your own education.
i really haven't seen anybody held back by not having a bfa. i see people hired all the time who have no business doing graphic design, and all they have is the latest software- not even a lousy bfa. and, considering what DON'T teach you in school about this stuff (it could fill volumes), i'm not sure the boob-off-the-street-who-just-bought-quark-and-is- now a real graphics-designist isn't the better hire than some geek out of yale who has never even seen a printing press.
oh, and i also wanted to point out that this poster was a benefit show thrown together on the heels of the infamous estrus warehouse fire. it was put together by a bunch of dave's friends who wanted to help out. it was sorta like a 'let's put on a show' kinda mickey rooney/judy garland thing. that is also strongly reflected in the design choices i made.
well..... after reading all this stuff this morning (really, i don't think this particular poster is worthy of such a lengthy discussion. it's a bit of a trifle), i've got two comments:
1) all this discussion about line weight and typefaces, etc. is good, but it all falls apart when you realize i was trying to destroy all of those artistic 'credentials of quality' in order to give this piece the ol' 'human touch'. that is, i wanted it to look all fucked up, just like everything else people do. it forces the viewer to interperate the information from a different persepctive, a different cultural meaning. right from the gitgo you realize this ain't no disco, this is folks doing their own creative thaing. and it'll be a little lame, but it'll be fun. that's all in the attitude and language presented. 'uneven line weight' hardly means anything at all in this context.
2) i think design education is terribly flawed, at least as it is presented in the united states today. that being said, i think a solid liberal arts education - with continuing efforts to self-educate for the rest of your life - is essential for quality design work. in other words, a really good designer has to know a little about everything, and a lot about a lot. and every client brings you a whole new world to learn. it never stops, and it's great.