my comments i guess are meant to be directed more at those self-righteous dreamers who think they can only be cool and somehow get rich. and people who attack the ames boys seem to be sorta like that.
i watched the ames develope in seattle and they srated out being the envy of all us starving artists up there because they immediately went into the very top band in the scene. but when they proved their worth, we all developed a respect for them, not just as 'artists', but as people. so, to read all of these silly derisive remarks about them just becuase pj is unpopular now, well it just seems lame, ya know? the posters still stand, pj or no pj. phish or no phish. that's my point.
actually, i've touched pj. i did a poster for them through the ames bros. the pay was so-so (none of that thousand you mention. nobdy pays a thou for a poster anymore). phish approached me, too, except i said no - but not because i hate the band (which i do), but because they wanted to screw me (i won't go into deatials, but it was one of the worst offers i've ever been made. right up there with swatch). people who only do work for hip cool bands they like will suffer the indignity of starvation. trust me on this. i've done just that for over 25 years, and i've gotten for it is a lotta smart ass wise cracks form people on this site.
the reason i'm not going to flatstock is because i'm too broke. i can't even afford rent this month. that's also why i'm selling my personal stash of posters on ebay right now.
this is what 'indie cred' buys you. whole lotta nuttin'. you get all this respect and you're still a fool.
ames did the correct thing. so what if a bunch of other poster artists don't like pj's music? i mean really, who cars what we think?
i love the self-righteous - they're so easy to trip. and i'm not just talking about pearl jam, but all the pj detractors. thanks fer the cheap yuks, now pick yerselves up off the floor.
chloe, imagine you're starting out in this stuff and a cousin of yours, let's call him eddie, comes up to you and sez, i want you and your friends to do all my posters for my band and i want to pay you well and that way keep it all in the family. now, imagine they're (at that moment) the biggest, most popular band in the world (be honest, you all liked them at first. no-one is innocent when it comes to pop music. we all fall for it over and over. today's nobel hero is tomorrow's putz.) now, let's be honest, you would say no? what about your 'indie cred'? what about your personal taste? what about your family ties? what about that fact they'll hire somebody else you compete with if they don't hire you?
this is the situation ames found themselves in, and they chose the correct path. so, you don't approve of their music anymore, and who does, really? did they make the wrong choice?
the only problem they've got now is to start over attracting newer clients, but with one of the fucking strongest portfolios on this whole site. isn't that a shame!
i personally know they'd love to do more stuff for others, but in a sad way, they got pegged as the 'pearl jam' guys. i was recently told by a mutual friend that they got so tired of the band hanging around their studio that they recently fired them and kicked them out. dunno if it's true, but it's a funny story.
truth is they've done lotsa work for a whole buttload of other clients, but the pj stuff has sorta ruined their 'indie cred' on the hipster circuit, ya know? whatya do? the guy's yer damn brother, and he's helped you get some real dough, and at the same time gets you so pigeonholed that everybody makes fun of you.
pearl jam has great posters (even if they don't deserve them) because they hire amesbros to do them, and they're very good. the sad thing is that nobody else will hire them. that's because seattle really really sux. and nobody outside of a few designer snobs and the people of gigposters know them from adam. you see, quality has nothing to do with commercial success. honest.