i tend to agree. you really need to be fair to everybody (especially yourself) and charge up front. she did this stuff waaaaay early, and it began as a banner, then was re-drawn and applied to the poster. she thought her agreement was (as we always do) 'i help you now, you help me later', community goodwill, let's put on a show and rubes will make us all rich sorta thing. it never works that way. there's too many horror stories out there. she felt betrayed (and maybe she was) and wanted to be treated fairly. he thought he owned it and could do what he wanted (as per 'free"). that's why you need written agreements, that way =these problems cn be addressed early and (most of all) there are NO SURPRISES. that's the whole point of a contratc.
did you know that the guy who drew the rolling stones' logo (the lips thing) - bob pasche was his name - got fifty bucks for his work? how many millions in merch has been reaped from that logo?
she did all of the jim rose stuff totally for free. later on, when he was applying it to everything and making real merch money, she requested some additional money come her way (she and jim were old pals). he got pissed, she got pissed, war ensued and they don't talk to each other to this day.
working with friends is dangerous, especially when money enters the picture.
i had nothing to do with this. estrus had nothing to do with this. after this event, dave had to politely request that everybody out there putting on 'garageshock's' to come up with their own names, because everybody thought he was putting on these shows. when some of the promoters ripped folks off (bands, too) he took the heat. most of the promoters got pissed at dave, because 'garageshock' on their posters sold tickets. dave always intended garageshock to lose money. he always charges cheap tix (first come first serve - even if you're pearl jam) and ALL the proceeds went to the bands. period. he lost about $100 on every one of his garageshocks and considers them a great success. when others just started using the name to cash in, he had to stop it. of course, everybody just got all pissy and began to accuse him of being a selfish gredhead. fuck 'em.
ashleigh is one of the most amazing and talented artists i've ever known. she hasn't done many gigposters, and i'll post what i can find. she's a strong-willed totally self-taught, self-directed visionary. amazing.
one reason she has that circus style down is that she lived the circus life for a time - in a sideshow, no less. that, and the fact that she INVENTED most of this contemporary sideshow stuff.
you need to realize that tad was the real thing. intelligent, sensitive and a real honest motherfucker. for instance, kurt danielson - the bassist - had a degree in philosophy and was the guy who coined the "loser" term ("the loser is the existential hero of the 90's" was his quote). they were the ultimate losers (that was their promo t-shirt that sold millions).
at their peak, they were the most frightening primal thing i've ever witnessed. and i've never seen a guy that size move like that. and when he stage-dived it was the stuff of nightmare! INCOMING!!!!
a lot of the critics think there were only two real 'grunge' bands - mudhoney (but only at the beginning around 'touch me, i'm sick') and tad. everybody else fit into other categories (hard rock, metal, punk, pop, etc.) 'awesome' really didn't go far enough to describe them. i'm glad i saw it.