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Dropkick Murphys Poster - Warfield Theater, San Francisco - Lil Tuffy
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Ryan Adams & The Shining Poster - Palace Theatre, Columbus - Ivan Minsloff
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Arctic Monkeys Poster - Paramount Theatre, Seattle - Todd Slater
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Funk Engine Poster - Foundry 616, Sydney - Monica Higgins
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Whiskey Gentry Poster - New World Brewery, Tampa - Conrad Garner
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Modest Mouse Poster - Unknown - Jeff Kleinsmith
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 12:59:34
  well, if you want to just fall back on the 'taste' argument, then there is no more need for discussion. you have your taste and i have mine. it's all fair.

but, if you want to really discuss the in-and-outs and different pints of view of something, then we have a real discussion going on.

if you want just "taste", theni actually LIKE this poster. i think it's pretty. beautiful, even. it's a gorgeous design. the colors are great and it's vague enough that i can read all sorts of deep and profound ideas INTO it. perfect.

but, if i look beyond "taste" and really start to figure this stuff out for what it really is, then it's a whole different story...

taste become virtually irrelevant. it's just another tool at your disposal.


Flaming Lips Poster - Stubbs, Austin - Factor27
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 12:53:29
  ?

Flaming Lips Poster - Stubbs, Austin - Factor27
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 12:48:01
  perhaps, hynes & perkins, etc. - you don't quite understand my point. i'm not trying to discount anybody's efforts here. i mean, it may not be a genius idea and never seen before, but it's certainly new to you and new to this scene and maybe something that hasn't been done for decades. and i think that's great. more power to you - good on ya!

but, my point is that it really HAS all been done before - even on posters. even just in seattle. especially in new york advertising, eraly punks, paris and eastern europe and psychedlia and art posters. if you go to the trouble (and it's a LOT of trouble, because i've found that there really are NO good histories of this stuff out there - only a few bare overview type things) to study the history of this stuff in all it varied permutations through out history, you will find evey idea already done that you could possible come up with. honest. no joke. no exaggeration. so, don't go thinking you're inventing anything and that you're a genius. however, those same ideas may have been done BADLY in the past. you could be doing the VERY BEST VERSION EVER! it's all context.

a good gimmick is worth a thousand 'high concepts'. it's a motto i've lived by many times.

Flaming Lips Poster - Stubbs, Austin - Factor27
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 11:46:29
  hynes -

again, it's all context. if you happened to have lived in seattle for, oh say, 25 years, then you wouldn't feel the need to say that. in seattle there was literally a huge poster scene with different designers and artistsa nd poster makers trying to one-up each other with wild ideas again and again. it went on for about 25 years and is still happening (but with less creativity). basically, it was ALL done. but, they weren't GIGposters. they were theater posters, event posters, art show posters, everything (almost) except gigposters. it wasn't until much much later that gigposters made any impact with 'alternative' techniques. but by then it had all been done by others.

and if you study poster design and pop culture history, the precedents become even more pronounced. honest.

Flaming Lips Poster - Stubbs, Austin - Factor27
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 11:28:22
  piemel -

oh, it's ALL been done before. for instance jeff kleinsmith did one of those "packaging/header card" designs just like this for a 45 for a band called 'piper cub' that included a balsa wood airplane. no joke.

if you study this stuff long and hard enough, you'll find precedent for vitually every single thing on this site. it's all been done before.

Flaming Lips Poster - Stubbs, Austin - Factor27
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 10:50:07
  it's such a hoot to watch you guys go through the "exploration of what a poster can be" phase of your careers. i remember going through all that crazy stuff earlier on and, now that i'm old and tired, i can't be bothered with it anymore. but it's really a gas watching you guys go through it. you're coming up with some wild solutions.


Modest Mouse Poster - Unknown - Jeff Kleinsmith
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 10:07:27
  it's all context. with the background i have with this work, i can see the reasons behind the work and the relative strength of the ideas with a different, possibly more clear view. surface impact means far less to me than how and where a piece was developed and used and how successful it was in that particular context. 90% of the posters on this site i can't properly evaluate because i don't have the context. but some i can.

what seperates the good from the bad in anybody's work is the quality of the concept. otherwise, it's just a decoration no matter how well executed. a DESIGN connotes a larger, more expansive idea involving systems manipulation and utilization.

also, i know some folk's bullshit levels better than others...

Tito Poster - The Showbox, Seattle - Jeff Kleinsmith
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-07-15 08:33:22
  this one is pretty damn fine, too.

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