i met johannsen at the book release party for grushkin's first rock poster book (which was held at the hard rock in nyc).
johannsen was a real prick. he was 'holding court' with all of these fawning gay boys who were telling him he was a genius. he was demanding this and demanding that and shouting out loud how lame everybody was and how crummy the party was. then he plowed off toward the bar, pushing through everyone with all his taodies in tow, and right over the top of me. he basically acted like i was an idiot to be in his way.
i would like this better if he had decided to touch up the contact points between the (dramatically) different xerox images. as it stands, they look pasted on top of each other instead of being part of the same unified image.
chuckles - you bring up a really interesting thing. first, i agree with you that overthinking a poster can ruin it. but, it's that very effort of overthinking that trains us to REALLY think clearly about our work. we all have to blunder through a lot of junk. in fact, college is sort of a planned way to work through the junk coherantly (but you end up missing the bulk of it in the process of learning it. you really need the junk and the failure to get anywhere)
anyway, when you mentioned the best ideas seem to come straight out of your head fully realized and work the best - well, that's something i;'ve thought about and tried to control for decades. the truth is, that those great ideas come out of YOUR mind. they are not accidents, but are the result of a thought process that constantly goes on in the subconcious part of you mind all day and night. the trick is to learn how to use that thinking processd to creat great work. it's not a CONCIOUS part of you thought, so how do you access it into the part of your mind you conciously control?
there's lots tricks that show us the way. a lot of creative geniuses use sleep - or more accurately that half-asleep phase just before you nod out or before you fully wake. i seen many interviews where folks talk about taking a nap gives them ideas. another is sleep-deprivation. another is drugs. another is a good old hot bath. some people go running to "think." or drive a car.
the trick i've learned to contact with that creative section of you mind and allow it to enter your "hands" is relaxation and distraction. take your concious mind out just a little bit and relax to the point where you just start doing it. it's like driving a car, you don't CONCIOUSLY think about it when you drive. you think about the radio, or what happened during the day, or food, or whatever. but, yet, you are driving incredible perfectly and in total control. how does that happen?
i belive it's the same thing with the creative process. you learn to let go and let you mind do it. figure out what it all means (as a concept) after it's done. trusting your gut is a great skill to learn.
by the way, traditionally it's called your 'muse'.
yes, i really do think that work that has some effort at a more intellectual effort behind them are much superior posters on all levels. just making them 'fun' really cheapens the experience, it's too little. it makes it a one-liner rather than a good editorial or a novel (at it's best).
the most memorable posters (the ones we ooh and ahhh) are much more than fun, they speak to us in ways that we often can't really understrand. why does that kozik 'pj/soundgarden' poster hit it so squarely to the point that people battle for them? there's nothing all that great about it, but it hits something. many of frank's posters are better in many ways, and a lot of them are worse. but that one is his 'greatest hit' so far. why? because it's 'fun' and that's all? really?
what i'm talking about here is a more subtle way of seeing these things that we all experience, but can't really put into words because they're not obvious. as poster artists, it's our job to learn how to manipulate and master what we do to achieve those difficult goals. talking about the concepts and the efforts behind them begins to teach us how to do it. and, yes, it comes off as boring intellectual snobbery, but it's the way analysis SOUNDS. no way around it. it's like picking apart what makes a good joke so funny - there's nothing funny in the exercise of doing it. but, it's how we learn to construct a good joke.
geoff - i wish you could get past the 'this poster sucks' comment i made (over a year ago). i reaized rather quickly that most people are too sensitive (not a bad thing) to take see past the 'shock value entertainment' of a comment like that. i've learned that i need to go into more depth in order to not be misunderstood (not that'this poster sucks' has anything seemingly deep to understand) and subsequently pilloried for my 'transgression of etiquette' on gp.
what more can i say to you that can get you past my 'sux' comment?