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Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 13:23:43
  yes, i called brian that in a pm. but that was my WHOlE pm - in response to a message from him calling me a lotta crap, too.

so, i feel it was a justifiable response to his verbal assault in his pm. i also think he may be a bit, well, EMOTIONAL at the moment. i dunno. i wish he'd take my advice and calm down.

Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 13:13:18
  brian -

look, i respect tibor. i respect alex. i respect victore. i respect sagmeister. but i know how this stuff works and i also happen to be friends with every one of these people. some of them i've known for decades.

but, someehow, you've taken everything i've said as some sort of personal insult. and now you are thretening me (with what, i don't know).

so, i suggest you back down, ok?

think it over for a day, and pm me tomorrow. and this time don't call me names, OK?

ok.

Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 12:49:48
  actually, phill, it's really NOT ok. it's not cute, nor funny or even challenging. it's just annoying. that's all - annoying.

Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 12:36:17
  why, to insult me agian like you did in your last pm?

Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 11:11:45
  brian -

i'm not ranting. i'm just pointing out how this stuff works. what i said is not wrong, you just have misinterpereted what i'm saying to be some sort of cut. it's not. it's a simple statement of the facts as i know them.

oh, good for you. you should read more books. read my book too, and franks, and everybody else's. just reading tibor's book over and over is not getting the whole story.


Ghost Poster - Luxx, Williamsburg - Faith Laurel
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 10:05:59
  that's the problem (for me) with this whole scenario - alex DID create that stuff without tibor. m&co ASSUMED authorship of his portfolio when they hired him. that work was alex's alone, not remotely involved with tibor.

but that's how a 'studio' system works. the name of the studio assumes authorship. i actually know famous 'design' studios (headed by a 'famous designer', no less) where the name on the door has never designed anything, ever. the 'name on the door' is essentially a rep. but, the rep is the famous designer.

i know design studios who sold their business and moved on or retired and even died, but they are still famous designers winning awards and getting all the work.

the studio system is basically unfair to the individual artist, but it's part of the 'journeyman' process, supposedly.

i once went to a 'cattle call' interview for a job where the guy holding the interview basically went through everybody's books all at the same time - with all of us in the room.

he went along and pull this piece out of one book, the pull another piece out of another book. then he said - 'i'll take this and put into MY book nd go get work - for MYSELF. i'll give some money if i get work.'

of course, i took my stuff and split immediately. but it was amazing to me how many people went along with it.




































Atreyu Poster - Emos, Austin - Bart Kibbe
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 09:01:14
  and it sure didn't look like this, i'll tell ya...

Atreyu Poster - Emos, Austin - Bart Kibbe
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-08-27 08:58:52
  this is so fake!! EVERYBODY knows that if you cut off somebody's head that you're NOT going to have two extra vertabrae hanging off the stump!! i mean, really!! you'd have to cut the head off and then cut off the flesh cleanly and tastfully and then peel it away and then bleach out the bones to do this. i cry bullshit!!!!!!!!

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