i don't. i'm only talking about my personal experience her, becaue that is what i know best. that really, honestly doesn't mean that i think it the ONLY experience. it's not an arrogant position, it's a personal position. whay is that so difficult for everybody to understand? i can't talk about your experince, because i don't KNOW it.
mmm - are you comparing this site to a schoolyard?
i had really hoped for much more than that with this place. if that's all this is, then what's the point of it?
i know that was gentle (even affectionate) humor, but let's be honest. my personality and my person and what you've imagined them to be is totally out of order on this site. character assasination can work in complex and tangenital ways. my personality should NOT be an issue. my ideas and my experience and my thoughts are what's at issue.
if you must knwo, i'm a difficult but good person. i live a life of rather high ideals that has become more of a curse than an asset. i get myself stuck in corners a lot because what i feel and what i say and what i do don't always line up properly.
stangely , it's a lot like you and anybody else on this site or elsewhere.
and THAT's where should be on this site. people, not fantasies.
i would generally agree wit you - most folks on this site are wellintention folks just playing around. jeph is by no means the nasties (although his remarks can be biting and cruel) and phill is nasty but seldom cruel. however, others seems to constantly look for openings to jump in and trash in "humorous" ways. even don rickles feels the need to say "hey it's a joke" afterward. for many folks on the site, these are NOT jokes and really can't be disguised as such.
i think mush would be improved by not calling me fat and old and outof it and psycho and a moron and saying fuck you. those are meant to hurt in the deepest possible way. and, honestly, i don't deserve it any more than jeph or phill or you.
so, i wish it would simply not happen, but i know it won't stop.
i' going to try to coninue being involved in this site, but it's a trial at best. i don't know how many attacks i can take. the pack mentality has to tone down.
but can't you see how dangerous in this medium that sort of "play" can be?
it reminds me of a guy i knew who was very into being jewish and very proud of his heritage. but he always thought it was funny to tell the most awful, rude, disgusting jewish jokes. he always seemed to think it was funny and perfectly ok because he was, after all, jewish. it was like black people calling each other the 'n-word.'
i pulled him aside and told him that i always thought that sort of humor only made it ok for others to use it as well. if you belittle yourself and your unique qualities, other more cruel-intended folks will use it as an opening to vent their worrst intentions.
he thought about for awhile and came back and we talked about it some and he decided i had a poiint. and he stopped making those awful jokes. and everybody in the office was GREATLY relieved.
my pint here is that making rude jokes only makes rudeness ok and then it gets ugly very fast. this medium is fragile and mis-interperetation happens profoundly and quickly.
i'm trying very hard to change my personal style to avoid those problems, but i also feel a deep personal need to take on those who use this forum as a battlefield - particularly those who fashion themselves as 'snipers' and those i see as total frauds. unfortunately, that drags me into their little wars. so i look bad, too.