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Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 14:40:50
  the quality varied dramatically everywhere. the really good ones (like this hardy) would be stolen quickly even back then. of course, they'd still end up in the trash evertually.

piemel - get a copy of instant litter and you can get a pretty good idea what was goin onisn seattle from about 76-84. if you look at the u-men flyers i posted on this site, you can get the idea of just one band's output from about 82-89 in seattle. multiply that by a thousand and you get a better idea yet.

i keep finding guys earlier than 76 and i keep finding really amazing stuff almost totally unknown from all areas during all periods.

if you really want to get infor, get my book, get "street art" and Hardcore california" by peter belsito, get fucked up and photocopied, get wreckers of civilization (about coum and throbbing gristle), get "street style" by cynthia rose, get "banned in dc", get that book about jamie reid and that one about tery jones. find anything you can about malcolm garret and peter saville and nevill brody. get that book that carey loren did about destroy all monsters.

any other suggestions?

but for the vast majority of this stuff is waiting to be collected and documented. so, it's even though a lot has been written, there is an enormous amount yet to do.


Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 14:26:51
  typo - that's supposed to be 'rob morgan', not "morga".

i'm a sloppy typist and i don't care.

Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 14:14:18
  piemel -

i can't speak for austin (beacuse they are the ones you're asking about), but in seattle, starting in say, 1975, these little b&w flyers began popping up everywhere and remained plasterered everywhere until the city made it illegal in about 1994. so, ythat's almost 20 years of flyers - i figgered about 15,000 when i did my book in 1984. of course, since then, all hell broke loose in the seattle mucsic scene, so i figure they produced twice that many in the next ten years.

these posters were of varying size and quality and were produced by everybody from graphic design professionals down to friends of friends of the band, every concievable type and quality and talent level was to be seen. it was like living in an art gallery everywhere you sent.

most people saved a few as souvenirs and there were a handful who save big collections, but even the most prolific collector couldn't possibly have gathered them all. the biggest sinbgle collection i encountered was rob morga (some of his own posters are on this site) and he had only a few thousand. the emp went about buying up all the collections they could find and have maybe gathered up maybe 5,000. unfortunately, nobody outside of jacob mcmurray has a clue as to what even half of them are about, and even he doesn't know what most of them were for.

these small posters were truly ephemeral and almost all of them went intot he trashcans or littered the streets. the rain in seattle literally melted them off the poles. some rreally wonderful artists created hundreds and hundreds of these things and almost all of their output was totally lost. not that they cared at all. it wasn't about art back then, they were all trying to promote a life they believed in. the idea of saving these things wasn't even considered. i remember seeing the actually MECGHANICALS for some of dennis whote's posters stapled to telephone poles. he probably produced more posters in seattle than any one single person (ask jeff k. he got his start on posters doing them for dennis), but he nebver saved any of them. didn't care. it wasn't the point.

collecting these things is a relatively new idea.

Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 12:22:45
  i forget how many there were printed - 3,000? 10,000? can't remember. all i know is that i gave away far more than were ever sold. there is some clown online who bought a bunch of remaindered copies (i think last gasp cleared out most of the remaindered years ago) and is selling them. people have told me that you can still find it online if you search hard enough. they pop up on ebay regularly, and go for as low as $3.95 or as high as $125. so, if you really have to have a copy, you can find one easy.

Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 08:53:06
  piemel -

trust me. the market interest will be tiny at best. i doubt any publsiher would be willing to take a loss on a book like this during a time when books aren't selling well. i've tried off and on for many years -casually, i admit - but the interest is zero.

Flaming Lips Poster - , Austin - Lyman Hardy
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-02 08:33:19
  frank -

thanks for the backhanded offer, but i've already tried to connect with your connections and they don't return my phone calls.

besides, after working with you off and on for 15 years, you'd be the last person i'd risk getting involved in a project like this.

Kling Klang Poster - Queens Hall, Edinburgh - Steve Harradine
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-01 20:20:28
  why don't you try one in fingerpaint?

Kling Klang Poster - Queens Hall, Edinburgh - Steve Harradine
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2003-10-01 20:14:37
  dang. i was hoping it was. i've never seen a fingerpainting poster before.

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