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Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-24 08:32:06
  sah -

fascinating. this, i didn't know. i knew about the lucifer rising, but the rest is new to me. i wonder what that version of love sounded like? by the way, ever heard about that legendary lost arthur lee/jimi hendrix recording? i got a tape of it (supposedly) from a intense insane collector. it was bad quality, but it was interesting. more lee than jimi. not too good, i thought.

mmm - seems to me that "gil" was protesting my earlier drug story about griffin. he was calling it a lie. now, he's acting like , "of course, duh. yer so stupid to think otherwise." i guess assholes who put on makeup to frighten little children are allowed these contradictions." stupid games.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 22:06:26
  emek - i'm only guessing here, but...

over the years, i've learned that there is a certain sort of person who smokes pot and goes into "detail mode". i've only met maybe three or four, but i suspect there are many more.

what happens is this - they smoke a little dope and they start to concentrate on/in extreme detail. they bend into that detail and start to work. they toke every so often and they maintain a level of intense concentration that carries them for hours working on tiny detailed drawings, etc.

like i said, i've only really met a few - at least a few who would admit that is how they worked. but, it's a true 'zone' thing. the detail work that these individuals create under the influence is at a level that took your breathe away - incredible tiny delicate detailed DETAILED work. it relaxed them when they were high.

one guy (the first one i met) was very open about it (that's where i learned about it). the first piece of work i ever saw of his was a life-size drawing of a sea bass, drawn with a 6-ought (000000) rapidograph pen. every single scale of the fish was exact. but then he went back in and using that old sticky color film stuff (zipatone film) he went back into the drawing and used an xacto knife to cut into the scales (one image per scale) the flag of every nation of the world. imagine the effort to cut into a single fish scale a zipatone rendition of the stars and stripes. then try to imagine doing the same for the flag of every nation on earth. it took him months to do it all. it was stunning. he said, yeah, i like to work that way. it makes me do great stuff.

since that guy, i've encountered maybe three others who admit they have that reaction to pot. me, i fall asleep. so, i'm not one of them. a few folks on this site have admitted to me that they were "one of them". and i'll wager good money that rick griffin was one, too.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 17:50:55
  zelig - yeah, seems to me i vaguely remember something about him auditioning for love. besides, arthur lee is a class a#1 nutjob, so who really knows, eh?

have you read that interview with bobby beausoleil in that feral house (the publishers) book? i forget the name at the moment - "apocalypse culture vol 2", maybe? it's a recent prison interview and it's pretty interesting.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 17:06:17
  emek - actually what you are describing is rather primitive production art technique, not innovative at all. i'm not trying to dismiss his technnique - it obvious worls very welll. but, it's the sort of thing they used to teach you in high school yearbook production classes.

rotator - 'it's a beautiful day' was very hippie-dippy pop progressive. they had a hit with a song "white bird" int eh early 70's that still gets played on classic rock radio now and then. i always thought they sucked. they were managed by that guy matthew katz (he also managed the moby grape among others) who was condemned to everlasting hippie purgatory for trying to copyright the term "san francisco sound". any poster with that logo of his on it is considered worthless by collectors because of that - even thought there were some pretty cool work done on them.

sash - i don't believe i've ever read booby b. was in either 'love' or 'it's a beautiful day.' perhaps you've run across thatin so0me more completeist manaon-ography, but i've read a great deal about that period and those people and i've never read a connection between beusoleil and those bands. however, he did work with kenneth anger and seems to actually be the one who started the 'aryan nations' organization while in prison. cool guy, eh?

oh, and i understand "love" actually did do a hit on somebody in their early days, so, they were pretty uncool. but, there's no bobby b. connection

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 11:45:38
  the story on this poster (as i understand it) is that it was made for a show that never actually happened. at any rate, the USE of the poster was canceled and then the run was destroyed. only a few escaped oblivian and less than ten are known to exist.

of course, business peoiple (aka greedy fuckrs) reprinted it endlessly. a friend of mine bought one from a big stack at a flea market in hawaii. paid ten bucks for it. after he found out what he had, he wished he'd bought the whole stack. i have no idea if his was an original or not.

so, this is considered a holy grail due to it's total "griffin-ness" and the "dead-ness" and it's rarity. a perfect combo for big bucks. i've heard five figures have been exchanged for original printings.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 11:38:46
  also, a friend of mine who collected griffin had a number of his original pencil sketches and even a few of his "mechanicals" for a while. my gawd, that guy could draw!!! his sketches were beautiful.

but his understanding of reproduction technology was crude. it was actually sort of laughable to see how he put these posters together. he drew each color layer on tissue and hinged them like a piece of mechanical art for registration. he drew with the 1960's equivalent of a sharpie. those pieces of art were sooooo crude. but, they worked so well.

demented genius.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 11:33:17
  however, i'm still trying to find the first five years of surfer magazine, when it was designed van hammersveld and cartooned by griffin. if there any kind hearted folks out there with any or all of the first five years, please get in touch.

Grateful Dead Poster - Exhibition Hall, Honolulu - Rick Griffin
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-07-23 11:31:29
  actually, this was before the aoxomoxoa lp. he "reprised' this image for the lp. but, he'd been working in this intense style for some time. he started out doing a cross hatch style, but moved onto this look quickly. he did amazing stuff. i used to collect his stuff back when you could get it cheap. i had dozens of his posters. all gone now. i gifted them to a friend who was starting out as a dealer. he used them to get himslef established. posters well spent if you ask me.

8ball - get a life. there's more out there than just hating me and living for chances to crack wise on me.

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