don't get me wrong, there are lots and lots of posters here that i'm NOT in the nuetral zone about. there are many that i think really stink and others i think are brilliant beyond reason. i even feel strangly about entire portfolios and even my own work. i can discuss any way i want, just so i can gather other ideas and get more information.
i wanted to respond to you earlier, but my computer crashed and then i couldn't get back on because of the 'too many connections (tmc)" thing.
if it all boils down to "i like it" and "i don't like it", then why are we all here. that's like saying i like peter max. i don't like picasso. i like bush. i don't like christianity. that's really not enough. you really need to talk more and think more about WHY and then be open to discussin it. otherwise, we'd all be terrorists or something. we're supposedly better than that, so whay not move beyond like/dislike and get into a more neutral zone where those have no real meaning. all that matters in the larger discussion.
i don't like/dislike this poster. i see see merits and demerits. i;'ve discussed both sides. i remain in the neutral zone on this one. it works, but it's not very good.
i think you're right. the objective of this poster was met beautifully. out there on the street, this will get noticed and people will remember and maybe even go to the show. it's an exteemely effective piece of advertising. no doubt.
but, is that enough? if that was all that counted, why do wwe even talk about this stuff with any interest beyond statistical results (x number of people bought tickets, therefore this approach worked and should be repeated, etc.) i thought the point of this site was to treatthis stuff as a higher artform. in fatc most of you guys call yourselves artists and think of this as arrt. yet, you only defend it as advertising (or, it's poor little sister, collectible swag). if this stuff is so important to everybody, why not discuss it with a little dpth and attempt at understanding the bigger issures in creating imagery like this?
don't worry about those cheapshot naysayers. i only did that smack at them to get them into a sidebar of "attack art chantry" mode and stay out of the discussion. they always bog it down with wisecracks and attacks on me. i think the REAL discussion here is really good.
i think your point that this stuff should get discussed simply because we all spend so much time doing it (aka - we love it) is great.
maybe you're right. maybe poster art is so "low" that any sense of self-expression or history of precedent is of no merit at all. maybe it is just trash, like the art world seems to think. but, it seems to me that the point of this site is to promote discussion and analysis of this stuff to attempt to get it to travel to a higher level. make it more interesting and more fun.
as an example - so many people (over the last few years) have complained about how burned-out and repetive and just plain stupid all of those "monster-driving-a-hotrod images have become. and, guess what! you hardly ever see them any more. that's the point of this site and this discussion/comment stuff.
it's an attempt at thinking beyond your own head, your own opinion. a way to progress, while still working in realitive isolation. community.
a personal level? is it important for the viewer to know the band and the artist to enjoy a poster? is that a 'pre-requisite' these days? maybe that's why i have trouble with it. maybe to everybody out there, this IS new thinking, instead of the old thinking i see.