i saw play for free afternoon show at the local gay pride day here in a st. louis park. she had cut her hair off and dyed the stubble blond. she basically did a 'greatest hits of punk' set and included sex pistols, clash, buzzcocks as well as her big numbers. she'd just come off a stint playing frank n. furter in rocky horror on broadway (or something) and did great covers of 'science fiction/double feature' as a great rendition of "the time warp". great show. blew everybody's sox off.
joan jet spent a lot of time in seattle during the glory year (singular). she lived in the condo across the street from me - the one that was supposedly the setting for the frasier tv show. in fact, it was sort of cocaine condo, with police racing there every other day. that building was a pain in the ass. she moved out.
grushkin - it gets so relative. so many of the posters on this sight are fake, so how is this fake any worse than so many others? these letterpress fakes are ubiquitous, but it's no more fake than dozens of others here. where is the line drawn?
jerry clayworth - the correct address probably means these posters were printed up in san francisco, so they actually knew what the address for the fab mab actually was. otherwise, they wouldn't even bother to get it right (if there is an address at all.) i mean, if you were doing a fake poster for the showbox in seattle, would you bother to find the proper address? why bother?
i swear to god you are getting crazy. i've DO NOT know trent and have never claimed to. i know posters. that's what this discussion is about - posters, not "how well we know trent". you only see what you want to be true.
i read your response a few times and i can't help feeling we're basically in a greement. you're sorta re-inforing my point. the difference is that you come down on the side that "it's his music, so it's his artwork and he can do whjat he wants". i come down on a soide that sez, "it's my job to help communicate his ideas better, even if he doesn't understand." i think that's where we disagree.
of course, you don't (nobody does) like having any sort of criticism of their work (myself included). so, your defensiveness is understandable. however, i still feel exactly the same way. this is not a good poster for NIN. none of these new posters are any good for NIN.
oh, i know a LOT about trent. no, i've never worked with him, but i've worked AROUND him on a few occassions (if you understand). he's an odd duck (in many ways), but not impossible. i've worked with far far more difficult artists and still been able to do good work.
at any rate, this may bee a case of too much unchallenfged power in the hands of someone who doesn't quite 'get it' all that well. a lot of bands i've wortked with over the years really really thought they knew exactly what they were about and what they were doing. and when they explained it, they had no idea what they were doing. they are usually fishing for ideas and directions. then it's the job of the visual artist to "train" them and lead them into solutions. it's part of the job. done it a million times. it's always a drag, but when it works well, it can be very satisfying.
savvy? i know - IT"S JUST A POSTER. but, you'd be amazed how 'just a poster' can change the direction of a creative vision.
there really are many many times when the 'band controlling the visuals' in the print art is just not a good idea. trent may be a demented genius, but he ain't no judge of print graphics. he needs to collaborate with somebody who knows what they are doing, not some "web artist" who thinks web design actually prepares him for print design. it's stupid, really. apples and oranges.