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Go! Team Poster - First Avenue, Minneapolis - Aesthetic Apparatus
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-11-08 12:03:43
  michael -

the reason i haven't responded to that other junk others have been writing in this thread is because it's all aside from my point. this thread is not about me, it's about you guys. sure, you don't agree with what i wrote and you maybe are a little pissed that i would write such a thing. if your reaction was anything else, it would be sorta weird, ya know?

but, i just think you guys need to take the next step. otherwise it's going to kill your momentum. you have enormous potential, but you're wasting it on copycat thinking. that's my point. that's the only point that is relevant to this discussion. all those others have no point if they are talking about me. i'm not the point.

that's about all i got to say. just think on it some. it doesn't hurt to actually think about another person's crit of your work - even if it's to just reject it afterwards.

Go! Team Poster - First Avenue, Minneapolis - Aesthetic Apparatus
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-11-08 11:07:27
  micheal -

you really don't see yourselves as "copying'? really?

when i met you, you seemed to be rather apologetic about it. so, it seems to me that maybe you are becoming blinded a tad by your general success?

never buy yer own bullshit. you just become another sid vicious that way.

my comments on this subject are now exhausted and are at an end. love it or leave it, i don't much care.

Go! Team Poster - First Avenue, Minneapolis - Aesthetic Apparatus
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-11-08 10:49:04
  hey, i'm not comparing myself or my work to them. obviously, it's the pot calling the kettle black, here. OF COURSE, i've done the same as them. literally, it takes one to know one in this case, ya know?

so, i simply point out, indeed PLEAD with them to move on to a higher intellectual process. they have the potential to really make a difference in this stuff i love so much - they are that smart and that good.

but, i can see the laziness of their thinking. their work is highly energetic and i'm not accusing anybody of not working hard enough on the work here. i just think they are seriously stuck in the copycat phenom. maybe they can make a break with it and become awesome. or, maybe they will just do what they're doing over and over and over until no one cares anymore. sound familiar?

however, if making a living is all this is about for you guys - then congrats! you're doing a spectacular job. keep it up and more power to ya! your work is wonderful.

but, if they desire more from their efforts, maybe something that will survive beyond them, then maybe they should think abput my comments a bit. it's only because they are so good that i even make these remarks. i hold them to a higher standard. otherwise i'd just ignore them like i do so many of you other guys.

heh heh.

Go! Team Poster - First Avenue, Minneapolis - Aesthetic Apparatus
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-11-08 08:58:46
  this looks like and old oz poster from british psychedelia days. who was the artist on those things? i forget.

ya know, i'm going to be sorry i said this to you guys (because you are so highly regared and popular), but isn't it time you developed your own style? you guys are a couple of the very best copycats i've ever seen - you are like copying aesthetics and not image, even. you guys are SO TALENTED, but you are lazy. in fact, it seems to me that i called you lazy in this forum way back when i first encountered your work. i guess, i was hoping it was temporary or maybe a learning curve. but after this poster, i gotta say, it's high time for you guys to fish or cut bait.

so many other folks in the design world have pointed out the same thing about you guys. i just gotta say, that copycatting does not make a long acreer move. you guys are brilliant but you need to move on and think for yourselves.

just one man's opinion. sorry.

Death From Above 1979 Poster - Toyota Center, Houston - Jermaine Rogers
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-10-29 10:55:34
  dunno either. i said i thought these nin posters weren't very good. that seemed to solicit an avanlanche of disagreement. but, now, most people seem to be saying the same thing about these nin posters. great band with weak posters. so, what else is new?

Leo Kottke Poster - Central School Auditorium, Whitefish - Pete Thomas
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-10-29 10:52:37
  nice poster.

i've always had a soft spot for kottke's work. i saw him a few times back in the 1970's and he totally changed my thinking about what guitar playing was about. amazing work that guys could do with six little strings.

Ironhead Poster - Tour Poster - Rica
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-10-26 15:26:36
  i haven't read this entire thread, but i have to point out that putting a censor bar on ANYTHING autromatically makesa it offensive. that's why it's a CENSOR bar. you can put a censor bar on a turnip and it becomes offensive.

New York Dolls Poster - Michigan Palace, Detroit - Dennis Loren
art chantrySend art chantry a message 2005-10-26 10:19:54
  another story:

a while back a friend of mine (a vintage record dealer. not a poster dealer) bought a huge stash of those whisky posters (for a rather significant sum). he called me up to have me check them out and tell him what he bought. i went and looked and told him he bought some junk. that they were not "authentic" vintage concert posters, but recent product, and likely will never be worth very much, especially compared to the money he put out. he was sorta disappointed, but figgered he could staple them up in his shop for decor. so, all was not lost. he used them as wallpaper.

so, i guess you can make real money doing these, if you don't mind defrauding people out of their hard-earned cash. that's the american way, i guess. money for nothing...

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