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    Default Registration and drying time

    I know it must depend on the paper, size of image, type of ink, etc. but I'm wondering how much water based inks affect registration. I've been looking through back posts on GP, and I read that paper expands and contracts as it's wet and as it dries. Other than waiting until the print is dry to the touch, I'm not sure how much additional time (if any) should pass before laying down the next color. I'm printing with water soluable inks (mostly Speedball at the moment).
    Sorry if this stuff has been covered before. Any insight would be really helpful.
    Oh, and in case it matters, I am printing by hand, no vacuum table (should I invest in some spraymount??). I use small peices of brass or styrene as registration tabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatdreams View Post
    I am printing by hand, no vacuum table
    Me too. I ran out of spraymount about 2 years ago and haven't used it since...

    In this humid weather I have a fan blowing up the wall behind my hanging rack to speed the drying but yes... your ink should be totally dry before you print the next color other wise the partially dry ink will get on the bottom of the screen and make a mess.

    Also, make sure you're using WATER BASED ink NOT WATER SOLUBLE.

    They are different and water soluble will never be completely set.

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    use spraymount if you cant do vacuum.
    I usually let mine dry anywhere from afew hours to afew days in between colors.
    Rack your paper a day or so before you print
    good luck

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    if you're having trouble with the paper coming up, you can use a repositionable adhesive.
    3M Remount is/was the best, but they outlawed it here.
    I've been using Best-Test.
    Please tell me you're not using water-soluble inks....
    Speedball Acrylic or Fabric only.
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    Usually by the time we are done the run and have cleaned up the first colour and set up the next colour.. the posters are ready to be racked and stacked for printing again.

    Our average print run is 300-400 posters.

    Not sure if that helps or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mono_666 View Post
    I usually let mine dry anywhere from afew hours to afew days in between colors.
    Holy shit dude. You must have alot of free time.

    Mine are usually dry enough to print the next color by the time I'm done printing the full edition of the first color, cleaning it up and registering the next screen. Occasionally I have to stand around and drink a beer or look at GEEPEE for a few minutes.

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    the best thing to do is to trap your colors right.
    you'll go crazy just starting out on butt registration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Blake View Post
    Usually by the time we are done the run and have cleaned up the first colour and set up the next colour.. the posters are ready to be racked and stacked for printing again.

    Our average print run is 300-400 posters.

    Not sure if that helps or not...
    Mine is usually around 100-150

    Not sure if that helps or not.

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    Thanks for all the responses. That was fast!
    Steve, some of my ink IS Speedball acrylic, but it is water base (not soluable). Will that be a problem? None of my inks are fabric only, however.
    I'm just trying to fine tune my registration.
    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerdo View Post
    Holy shit dude. You must have alot of free time.

    Mine are usually dry enough to print the next color by the time I'm done printing the full edition of the first color, cleaning it up and registering the next screen. Occasionally I have to stand around and drink a beer or look at GEEPEE for a few minutes.
    I rarely have time to print more than one color in a session. I have my setup at home, so I just print when I get afew free hours. (usually sat-sun mornings and late nights)

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