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    Arrow [EUROPE] Suggestions for an automatic or manual screenprinting table 70x100?

    Hi people,
    I'm from Italy and I'm desperately looking a screenprinting table 70x100 with vacuum, possible automatic.

    Who can suggest to me good models?

    Thanks,
    Fabio

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    The Italians make the best screen presses imo. Look around for a used Sias machine. There's probably one right next door.

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    Hello squeegethree,
    you always help me

    Perhaps are you speaking about Siasprint? I've called them today, they're from Lodi (north Italy), and I'm from Rome (center Italy). They'll send in these days the proforma invoice..but I'm quite sceptic..a lot of screenprintiing machines producers are asking to me for a 70/100 semi-automatic around 13000 Euros (thirtheen thousands) + VAT (20%).

    50/70 size are about 11000..so always a lot.

    Other Italian producers (and sellers) I've found are CMS, SER.TEC, ARGON HT, MISMATIC, TEK-IND.

    However thank you,
    Fabio

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    Ciao Fabio

    Well... a guy i printed for used a semi automatic (all automatic except the paperfeed) "Variaprint" or "Varia Print" machine. Check out ricardo.ch (swiss version of ebay) they might have stuff on there (quite a few Screenprinters go broke here every year). If you want to do plastic bags on a supermarket scale, and be commercially competitive you would probably need a roller type press and print the plastic BEFORE it goes on to be made into bags. I don't know much about this end of the industry though, I like it small but beautiful

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    hello fabio,

    just a quick question;
    what kind of screenprinting machines have you worked on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongalong View Post
    hello fabio,

    just a quick question;
    what kind of screenprinting machines have you worked on?

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    Good question?
    I have a Sias built in 1988 and it keeps working great. Those prices don't sound so bad to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bongalong View Post
    hello fabio,

    just a quick question;
    what kind of screenprinting machines have you worked on?

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    Hi bongalong,
    i had no experience with the print cause my approach to screenprinting was initially as assistant screenprinter (i can mount mesh on frames, reclaiming them and so on but no experience with the print).

    @squeegeethree: it's a 70x100? Which model is it? Is it a Siasprint?

    Thank you all,
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeroInferno View Post
    Hi bongalong,
    i had no experience with the print cause my approach to screenprinting was initially as assistant screenprinter (i can mount mesh on frames, reclaiming them and so on but no experience with the print).

    @squeegeethree: it's a 70x100? Which model is it? Is it a Siasprint?

    Thank you all,
    Fabio
    We're inches here but it's like 180 cm x 150 cm. It's a Siasprint PSmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeegeethree View Post
    We're inches here but it's like 180 cm x 150 cm. It's a Siasprint PSmatic.
    wow a giant size.

    Fabio

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    your making a big jump starting with an automatic, i always recomend to start out with a manuel press.

    you'll need time to figure things out. different inks, print mediums, emulsions, thread count, squeegies. that's just the hardware then comes all the technical stuff like screen tension, ink viscosity, flood presure, print pressure, film seperations, and so on.....

    start small with a manuel press, and learn hands on, with small jobs. the bigger the jobs the bigger it's going to cost you when something goes wrong, and things will go wrong ask any screenprinter.

    with an automatic you can waste materials faster, through errors than with a manuel.

    when you've got the knowledge to print well then you'll know what to look for in an automatic. do some homework and look for companies that have been around for a long time, parts and servicing should be a factor in your decision on what brand your buying.

    your a brave man, good luck and all the best.

    oli._

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