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    Default Haze Remover Question.

    So heres the deal....we are using aluminum frames with a 305 mesh count from Victory Factory, I have already been told that this is too high of a mesh count for what we are doing, so I know that this may be causing a lot of our problems... but we need to clean these out and use them for a job and we dont want to send them back to be restretched or to get new ones right now (since that requires cash-money)
    But here are our problems:
    We can still see previous stencils from darker colors
    and there is all kinds of gook stuck in the mesh of these, you cannot feel them on the screen but its stuff stuck in the mesh and the power washer doesnt seem to get it out, and we are afraid to scrub too hard since we have already torn a 305 mesh screen.
    I know we probably need a good dehazer I just dont know which to buy, we are using Ulano TZ with Speedball Permanent Acrylic Poster Ink...
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    Get some laquer thinner and try it on the 'gook' - if it is ink it may come out.
    It is normal to still have a bit of ghosting from darker inks.
    the haze remover....wasn't there a whole string on this just a few days ago?
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    that was me with the haze remover thread.


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    yeh i saw the other haze remover threads - but I also know that things are different with different emulsions and such and couldnt find a specific product name. I will go through and read again though - I guess I just need to call Ulano direct to see what product they suggest - thanks!
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    So based on the other thread - correct me if I am wrong but the steps are as follows:
    Stencil Removal
    Rinse
    Dehazer
    Rinse
    Degreaser
    Rinse
    Dry and then recoat with emulsion?

    Will the laquer thinner replace the degreaser or do you suggest we purchase some of this as well?
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    i recently bought some orange based degreaser/dehazer (i forget the brand...had a 460 in the name), which seems to work ok on ink stains from that printing, however it doesn't seem to work that well on older ink stains. it doesn't take out old emulsion at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero Design Studio
    So based on the other thread - correct me if I am wrong but the steps are as follows:
    Stencil Removal
    Rinse
    Dehazer
    Rinse
    Degreaser
    Rinse
    Dry and then recoat with emulsion?

    Will the laquer thinner replace the degreaser or do you suggest we purchase some of this as well?
    Yes, those are the correct steps. But first step with WB inks is clean them immediately after printing, before you look at your prints, before you go to the can, before you call 911 because your assistant just got a squeegee stuck in their ear....and I don't know about Speedball WB, but with TW I have to use a cleaner (SO-34) mixed 50% with water first, before I use water to clean, otherwise the ink freezes in the screen. I just spritz it on and rub with a sponge, get it all wet, then rinse with water. After that use your stencil remover and start the cycle.

    the laquer thinner is a last resort, do it after you have removed the stencil as it will lock in TZ or other WB emulsions, especially if they have been underexposed. After using laquer thinner or anything, go back to dehaze, degrease.

    Don't you have a screen printing supply store near you? Ulano is not the only maker of products, the supply store will have a few different. Or check with another local printer, maybe they can clean your screens better (with better reclaiming system/pressure washer, etc)
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    I don't know what kind of haze remover we use but I do know that just a drop of it will kill a cockroach. And that is a good thing.

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    Thanks - actually no Screenprinting supply store locally.
    I only called Ulano so I could talk to a human to explain some or our issues, and he stated same as you - try a dehazer and use a degreaser after. Said he is going to send samples of their dehazer and degreaser. I am not sure how they measure up to the others but it is worth a try. Also he said we can try a mixture of bleach and water as a home remedy for dehazing. I think most of our problems stem from the fact that we are using such a high mesh count. 230s are on their way!!!
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    So what you are saying about dehazer is that I can also use it is a cocktail mixer?? I love things that have double uses!!
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