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    Default Alternate way to produce film positives.

    I don't know if this is something that is widely known in the printing community, but it shocked my printmaking professor when it worked.

    Tools i used were:



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    I printed a 3 color, 18x24" print using these to make my film positives (2 colors done with this, and the key layer on rubylith). i had no problems exposing, wash-out was clean and crisp. Of course, the ink does feather a bit, but i'm sure a better vellum will help avoid this. You can also find these markers in varies nib sizes to vary your line weight. I really liked the fact that the positive is a direct hand-drawing and not a p.o.s.-scanned-lazer-print.

    One important thing i noticed: They sell two different types of Poster Paint markers. I found that the water-based ones are much more opaque than the oil-based. only bad thing, the water-based ones are harder to find.

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    I wouldn't really call this an alternative. This is 101 old school. But yes I prefer the hand drawn films as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squeegeethree View Post
    I wouldn't really call this an alternative. This is 101 old school. But yes I prefer the hand drawn films as well.
    ahhh i see. maybe it was the fact that the sharpie worked. I was told the only way to get something opaque enough to work for exposure was to use a lithography grease pencil.

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    Grease pencil, Acetate Ink, Speed Opaque, Paint Markers, Micron Pens, Arcyllic Paint, Paper, Hair, Lace, Leaves, Feathers, Tape... as long as it blocks enough light during your exposure

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    standard sharpies don't work very well.

    I need to find somewhere up here sells those posterpaint pens, they work good, and my red-o-pake and kimopake pens are too expensive. The students are always pressing too hard and plunging the tips = big mess.
    Andymac

    services www.squeegeeville.com
    equipment www.tmiscreenprinting.com

    Todo es empezar.

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    Higgins Black Magic and a good brush.

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    Red sharpie oil-based on mylar (got mine at Opus in Vancouver). No feathering, bleeding, or reticulation. Beautiful consistent coverage. I'm also thinking of trying Nik Semenoff's toner wash

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    6 posts in and i already learned a handful of new tools i can use. SWEET!

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    We use india ink in pens and with a brush on film. No bleed at all, and if we need to correct an edge or want to add texture, an Xacto knife does the trick.

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    Inkjet transparencies are cheap, but plain ol' plastic shouldn't be. Has anyone come up with a good source for cheap plastic sheets that'd be good for drawing on?

    Picked up a black paint marker at Wal-Mart last night, and it's as opaque as molasses. Why hadn't I thought of this before?

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