Actual transcript- edited to hide the identity of the clueless PR guy-
I am setting up a poster design competition for facebook to promote our new company XXXX
I really love some of your designs and was wondering if I could possibly use a few of them on our site and on our banners advertising our competition to demonstrate what kind of things we are looking for.
We would only use your images as examples of what poeple can do.
Of course we welcome you to join the competition when it starts and I would be happy to send you the details. Thanks for your time.
XXX- if you could, send me the specifics of the design contest, as I'd like to read through what exactly the art would be used to promote. Also, for a commercial site using my art in a non-review capacity, I'd have to ask for compensation and artist's credit- if you could let me know if you have a budget for this kind of thing.
Thank you for getting back to me. Unfortunately we do not have a budget for this kind of thing. I hope there is some sort of capacity in which we can still use your art as we think it is fantastic.
Here is the link to the competition page. launched today: XXXXX
As a further thought I understand you sell posters of your art already, although not in the UK. I would have thought there would be a great reception of your art over here. Maybe there is some sort of agreement where we can print and distribute your art over here.
As mentioned we have just launched this site as an extension of our large format printing business to target specific groups, one of which is Students and Designers.
Having seen your own site and the incredible selection of art you have done I thought there might be an opportunity for us to work with you. I had two possibilities in mind, either you could sell large format posters from your designs to the UK market and pass on the orders to us to print and deliver in the UK, or we could offer your designs to our customers and pay you for the design. The site has only just been launched, really as a proof of concept platform and does not yet offer this latter facility, but could be developed in the next version.
I am open to any other ideas or thoughts you may have on the subject.
Looking through the official rules of the contest, it would appear that by entering into the contest, any artist would be signing away the rights to the image in perpetuity in any medium, whether they are the winning artist or not. And, even the top five winning artists would only receive payment for prints sold for the first month, and after that, you would be able to continue to use the art without recompense to the artist. My reading of it could be mistaken- please clarify if I am!
I actually do sell quite a bit of my silkscreen posters to the UK, and all over the world, in fact, through my website- NakatomiInc.com. While I'm not against licensing my art for other products I have to maintain control on prints and posters.
You are quite right in what you read in the rules and regulations, but this only applies to entries into the contest. We would only expect to use your images as examples to inspire people when submitting entries.
To be honest we are a new company and this is our first competition, we basically based our rules on what we researched from other competitions from other similar companies. If you think this is unrealistic and limits the entries then this is definitely something we need to look into for next time.
I would love to hear what you think would make a more appealing competition.
So- while I am frankly disgusted at their contest rules and regulations, I do have a little bit of hope in that they seem to be asking for advice. Do any of you GP regulars have a good example of what I should point to as an ideal artist-friendly set-up to emulate? I never enter contests, so I don't know what is par for the course.