I'm starting a new thread because I think it's kind of silly to continually have these arguments in the actual threads and keep bumping something that really should just be squash (see: http://www.gigposters.com/forums/art...rs-europe.html ).
Over the past few years, a trend has developed where a band will have someone organize a tour series presenting a deal where an artist (usually local) will design and print a poster and provide X% for the band to sell as merch at the show and the poster artist is free to sell the remainder of the run on their own terms after the show.
Initially, these types of deals were set-up by gigposter.com friendly bands which presented an opportunity for folks here to do a poster for a band that has a pretty high profile and good potential for after-market sales.
When people first start out and ask us for advice on how to get into making posters, we recommend doing posters for your friend's bands -- start within your community. I think many of us looked at the bands involved with these series and felt like we were kinda doing something like this but on steroids (sweet! I've always wanted to do a _______ poster!).
Maybe we were naive, but now this model is generally frowned upon and met with the usual banshee calls of NO!SPEC.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for just one second because I have done a number of deals like this in the past and still do it every once in awhile (the deal that inspired this thread is too shitty to even consider for the reason stated).
Certain opportunities like this do work out in my favor but I'm pretty sure that this success is limited to me and less than a handful of other artists.
I participate in EVERY flatstock and do at least one other festival or show a month (indie marts, bar shows, galley shows, etc). Usually, I can turn around those posters pretty quickly and, in rare cases, make more money than I would have if I had been paid to do the poster to begin. It would be even more lucrative if I actually worked with wholesalers and sold via my website. So, like Dave pointed out, having a limited license to sell band merch on my own terms does sometimes outweigh the risk of fronting the cost of producing a poster.
That being said, I rarely take on these types of jobs anymore because I realize it is bad for us as an "industry" and it also takes away from my other business model (one that other people here hate) of selling the poster at the show via pre-arranged percentage agreement with band.
Lastly, should the API consider taking on more of a roll like AIGA and create a professional guideline for poster makers?