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    OK .. here's the scoop...

    I have always had a strong feeling about website 'functionality' being FAR more important than design. It is evident here at gigposters.com... no Flash, no cool graphics.. concentration on information, and navigation, etc..

    I was recently lead me to this site:

    http://www.coma2.com

    No offence Al, but this site, TO ME .. is crap. Why .. because it is not evident how to get anywhere from first arrival.. useless. I spent minutes (which are hours in 'surfing' time) trying to figure out what is what.. where to go .. letting shitty Flash load up .. and managing pop-up windows, etc..

    There are SO many sites out there, by design students, that (to me) have no purpose, content or functionality .. they are just there as a 'portfolio' .. or because someone was bored.. useless info clogging up this web of ours.

    Sorry .. I don't mean to be an absolute asshole on the situation .. I just need someone to explain to me the other viewpoint..

    [ This Message was edited by: Clay on 2002-07-19 20:35 ]

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    EXACTLY YES! YES! YES!

    I been on the fucking web since day one and NOTHING EATS SHIT like some fucking ANNOYING
    animation-riddled slippery slidey fucking FADING BOXES piece of ASS SUCK website where ita all fucking vague and 'modern'.

    GO EAT A DICK.

    Like if you have to deal with ENDLESS SHIT to get somehwere its a total FAILURE.

    Clay...your so right...so right.


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    well..it DID put me into a coma...OF HATE!

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    and by the way..THIS sight is like the way the fucking web should be. EFFORTLESS, INSTANTLEy GRATIFYING and like ENDLESS LEVELS of information...each NARROWING into a FINAL GOAL.

    that whole fucking 'hypertext' crap is like a really good way to DESTROY information.

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    Thanks Frank. You know how to make a guy feel good!

    Honestly .. I know there are people out there with differing views.. lets hear the other side of the story..

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    whoe...hey hold on there...i didnt put the link up for its ease of navigation or information arch. what i was doing was sending you a site to check out what people are doing with some code...making interactive apps and such...sheez man...can do no right on this here site...i agree a site like gigposters has no room for this kind of thing but on the other hand its cool to see what some people can create with the knowledge they have...flash.. i like it...i ve heard all the arguments against it...but its o.k. in my book...i just thought you might like what someone did with a little knowledge of different coding techniques....gonna hold off on eatin dick right now Frank...ease up man, just an example of how other people might express themselves.

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    sputteringal:

    No worries man! I'm not blaming you for any of this .. I just found it a GREAT example of what I (personally) find a shitty website.. thats all .. thats it...

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    I doubt if I'll be able to understand them..they are bound to be much more intelligent and of a higher class than I could ever hope to be.

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    sorry Al...dont take it personal. I just hate that 'all hat no cattle' SFDIGIGEEK
    flash for its sake hogwash.

    I cherish the web for INFORMATION and CONNECTIVITY.



    when thats cast aside in a grandiose display of smoke and mirrors it gets me pissed off. I do pay a whole goddamn 69 dollars a month for my hook up.


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    heh. you found one of frank's "buttons"...

    you wanted the other side of the debate... well, i'll defend the technology, but not the execution. 49% of the time those idiotic flash presentations and assorted dancing baloney are specifically dictated by clients. 49% of the time it's kids who found a new toy and go hog wild with it. there is indeed a time and place for everything, but that's a lesson that only the remaining 2% have realized.

    i've worked as a low-level sysadmin, a pro web designer (don't look at my site - it's unfinished and 2 years out of date), and a usability consultant, so i've had to listen to every side of the debate. it always comes down to 'the right tool for the job' - but people don't want to listen to that.

    at any rate, GP rules for all the reasons frank cited. the only things i could possibly nitpick about are a more detailed search ad maybe fixing the few minor display issues on Mac, but none of that takes away from the amazing amount of content collection yinz have spearheaded.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTENT.

    and, of course, beef.

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