Nectar Lounge in Seattle and Echobeat Productions in Seattle don't pay.

[seireyho]

Or return phone calls or emails for that matter for payment for FOUR posters I have done. Please do not support these venues or do work for them.
Because in the end they will take your work...post your work all over the city, but won't have the decency to pay the little amount that they promised for services rendered....or at least have the little decency to call or email someone back. Bastards. One of the guys I thought was cool too.

[surrender]

money up front, no problems.

[squeegeethree]

You printed them too? That sucks and I've been there plenty of times.
2008 policy change for me here. Nothing leaves unless it's paid in full. I'm sick of waiting for checks. Also I'm processing credit cards now.

[seireyho]

Finally some success. Man, I have to call one of his friends that I am doing work for and threaten to not do any work for him, because of the association and fear of not getting paid. Then by coincedence Nectar sends me an email. Who knows what's going on over on their end, and I have been trying to be super patient, but it's been like 3 months and how can I justify doing anymore work for anyone associated with someone who doesn't pay what they promise.

[squeegeethree]

"How can I justify doing anymore work for anyone associated with someone who doesn't pay what they promise."

That's a fine line to walk... guilt by association.

[seireyho]

True...and I hate to do that, but what the F.
The slow payment doesn't piss me off, but the blowing me off and blowing me off shows little respect for me. Then his buddy contacts me and is like Nectar referred me to you.
At that point, I hadn't gotten uber frustrated yet, so I took on the job, now we're at a point where I've work alot of hours on a print for this new client and realize that he could potentially just blow me off like his nectar buddy.

[SpaceMonkey]

You should ALWAYS require at least 50% in advance - for realz. That way you'll only be half screwed if something like that happens.

[seireyho]

We usually do.
These are a liittle different for us though because they were real quick and dirty projects from the beginning. Ryan, from Echobeat Productions, (who has still yet to contact about payment) came to us and was like hey... I've got these two gigs that I am promoting for Eek-a-mouse and Orgone...will you do the poster designs and I'll pay you $75 for each design and we'll just have them printed and distributed by poster widgets, a service in seattle that blankets the town / telephone poles with usually 1-color posters. So I was like sure...and wasn't too sweating on getting them to pay half up front, since it was such a little amount. But since I have now done 4-posters for these guys, it starts to add up. The thing that quirks me the most though is the lack of respect.

[JoshPodolske]

i did some things for the nectar thru a promoter, seemed cool to me a the time, vegtablelasagna did or still does things for the promoter to.

[seireyho]

I've been trying to be professional but still super dickheadish too, because once I stop doing work for them, then they will find someone else, and do the same thing, etc etc etc.
A vicious cycle of takin advantage of poster artists. Obviously they need em - or else they would say f. it and not even have em. But it brings people / money to their establishment.