computer generated vs. hand illustrated, etc.

[backdraft]

amen. and mike king makes great posters. voodoocatbox.com is where his is at.

[krysztof]

I agree with everyone who can find a good relationship between hand-made and machine-built. As anyone who's ever studied design (pr at tleast appreciates good design!) knows, good design IS good design, regardless of the tool it's created with. I work in both mediums, and have been able to find a comfortable relationship between the two, and there's no validity to saying one is "better" than the other; it's all about creativity, and the quality of the design and/or illustration will come through regardless, whether good or bad.

It's kind of a moot debate, really, as we're all here using the technology of the digital age as a tool on this forum, and no one is questioning the worth of the ideas expressed just because it's typing in a text-form versus hand scribing them with a pen and parchment and mailing them out!

It's all in the worth and execution of the idea, ain't it?

[El Negro Magnifico!]

True indeed, krysztof. Execution is the key.

[gun sho]

Sometimes I think that the attitude against using computers is that it's cheating.

I once saw a kid kick another kids ass. The winner had been taking karate for a year. After the fight, one of the loser's friends told me the fight wasn't fair because the other kid knew karate. To this day I still think of that example of how people rationalize things to make up for their own disadvantages. I think that goes for the argument that people make against computers as a tool in art. I know plenty of people who know their Mac and all the programs inside and out and try to but can't design shit. They don't consider people who never touch computers but do great design to have an unfair advantage because they've got a xerox machine and some rubber cement.

[El Negro Magnifico!]

That's a good point, gun.

[uncle charlie]

I'm open to all means available to create a poster.. Take a look at my Electric Frankenstein
http://gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=6860
this deal was done almost entirely in Freehand (fuck Illustrator). All I did was get a photo of a vibrator for reference.. The vibrator in the photo looked nothing like my drawn version. Then while looking at the picture i 'plotted points" to creat my linework that formed the shapes of the vibrator. Once my central image was done I sketched on paper how I wanted the text and vibrator to work with one another. Then I set the type and then created the pattern in the background.The white glow was created by taking the shape of the vibrator placing it in photoshop. then I selected it, feathered the selection and filed that with black. Then I converted the photoshop file to bitmap with 12dpi fo rbig fat dots.. Imported that file into Freehand, placed it behind the vibrator and turned it white..

Some of my earlier shit I would draw on paper the image. Scan it. Streamline it to make it vector, then open in Freehand and color and draw more shadowing or highlights, whatever.. So I've done both drawing on paper and then scan AND as in EF poster, drawn straight in the program jsut by looking at a picture.. And the end result works..

[kevin jones]

really? 12dpi or did you mean 120?

[uncle charlie]

nope I ment 12 (dots per inch).. actualy in photoshop its LINES PER INCH but old newspapers would say dpi or line screen.. either way..

[kevin jones]

im going to have to try that when i get home.

i used freehand in school, and can actually find my way around a bit easier with it, but have been using illustrator lately because no one uses freehand anymore, and employers always recommend illustrator.

[kozik]

use everything.do it all. combine it.