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    Quote Originally Posted by George W Bush View Post
    we lost 63,000.00 in 2 days. well..we still own the stock, so its really a paper loss, the initial 'capital' in that portfolio is still intact, but it wiped at all the profit for the last 6 years.

    luckily, we have the 'deep' retirement savings in really 'safe' stuff and it wasnt affected, but yes, it put a big hole in my plans to expand my company since we where gonna cash out that 60 K in December for next years production runs.

    also, we have no debt other than a single monthly truck payment, so yes, we are buying more stock, as crazy as that seems.

    now, a lot of projects will not happen.

    so, it really sucks.
    yea we are not real sure what to do with what we have left. we have a guy butt when things went to shit that didn't really matter. now we are freakin out... leave it where it's at and hope for the economy to recover i guess. butt it will take forever to regain what we lost in a short time. especially since we have so much less money. any hot stock tips??? at least we are super frugal and the house is paid for so we'll get by. butt now we have nothing to fall back on. it sucks mucho

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    with all due respect - it's your country after all- but to decide that whatever the tax hike is for the high earners is only going to fund crackhead welfare cheats is pretty naive.

    the bloat of the government, along with all the things the government pays for that are good and make it a better country, is fucking massive. your country's deficit is incomprehensible and still growing.

    the amount paid for welfare and shit is minimal. so why is it always presented in terms of 'hey they are going to tax the shit out of you and give it to poor people.'

    who is supposed to pay the bill (the entire bill)? As far as I understood (and what do I know being a northerner) the rich under Bush were given the biggest tax breaks during that time period. and the government grew. and the debt grew.

    both things that aren't supposed to happen when fiscal conservatives run things. It's bullshit - we have conservatives in power up here - they have looted the treasury, gone into deficit, and increased spending, even during this economic downturn.



    oh yeah george....grey market is where it's at. plus tax avoidance, not tax evasion. Your gal needs to start a business and get some write-offs.

    Paul, that sucks. but you are young, you got your health, you got a house, you can still fish. Face it you'll be screenprinting when you are 75. you'll never retire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andymac View Post
    with all due respect - it's your country after all- but to decide that whatever the tax hike is for the high earners is only going to fund crackhead welfare cheats is pretty naive.

    the bloat of the government, along with all the things the government pays for that are good and make it a better country, is fucking massive. your country's deficit is incomprehensible and still growing.

    the amount paid for welfare and shit is minimal. so why is it always presented in terms of 'hey they are going to tax the shit out of you and give it to poor people.'

    who is supposed to pay the bill (the entire bill)? As far as I understood (and what do I know being a northerner) the rich under Bush were given the biggest tax breaks during that time period. and the government grew. and the debt grew.

    both things that aren't supposed to happen when fiscal conservatives run things. It's bullshit - we have conservatives in power up here - they have looted the treasury, gone into deficit, and increased spending, even during this economic downturn.



    oh yeah....grey market is where it's at. plus tax avoidance, not tax evasion. Your gal needs to start a business and get some write-offs.
    word up

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    i do not see it as a rep or dem deal. I know where the tax money goes...60% goes to medicare and social security and so on. and to the wages of millions of fucking bureacrats.

    all I know is I have been working since i was 15 years old, and will do so until the day i fall over dead . I do not mind paying my taxes. personally I think everyone should pay a flat rate-10%. thats fair and will be more than enough.

    I also am not reallly obsessed with money and 'the future'. I am happy to make it, spend it, enjoy it and eat dog food while living in a cardboard box when I am old.

    I am risk taker by nature.

    Sharon, however, is not, and the combined stock market, looks like taxes are going up combo has really really hit her hard. She DOES worry about being old.

    stuff another 300 million people into Canada, and you'll see. Its out of hand, the fedsneed to drastically cut everything to thebone and get the fuck organized, instead of creating more bureau-bloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George W Bush View Post
    i do not see it as a rep or dem deal. I know where the tax money goes...60% goes to medicare and social security and so on. and to the wages of millions of fucking bureacrats.

    all I know is I have been working since i was 15 years old, and will do so until the day i fall over dead . I do not mind paying my taxes. personally I think everyone should pay a flat rate-10%. thats fair and will be more than enough.

    I also am not reallly obsessed with money and 'the future'. I am happy to make it, spend it, enjoy it and eat dog food while living in a cardboard box when I am old.

    I am risk taker by nature.

    Sharon, however, is not, and the combined stock market, looks like taxes are going up combo has really really hit her hard. She DOES worry about being old.

    stuff another 300 million people into Canada, and you'll see. Its out of hand, the fedsneed to drastically cut everything to thebone and get the fuck organized, instead of creating more bureau-bloat.
    agreed. and just so you know, cat food, although more expensive, is much better than dog food. all those flavours.

    300 million? stuff away, as long as they're in toronto. Stay the fuck off my island.
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    also, here in california we have this amazing thing called 'state income tax' which eats another 10% and sales tax..another 8.5%.

    so a normal person is really fucked here tax-wise.

    as far as I can tell the taxes I have paid to california are well spent saving the homes of retards that build them in fire zones or on snacks for illegal alien gangbangers from el salvador.

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    Its something like 26% combined fed and province for income tax, but goes higher past a certain income

    then 7% provincial sales tax on some stuff (not food)
    and 5% GST - gouging and screwing tax - goes to the feds.

    $288 every 3 months for health care.

    But you can work cash almost everywhere, and the income tax can be managed if you have a business, cause the corporate tax rate is much lower.

    we get $100 every 3 months as a GST rebate, and now we get $100 from the province to offset their carbon tax.

    I pay my accountant more than the government. its all a game. a fucked up game
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    I am so glad I am in college and I feel so bad for you guys I can't imagine what I would do knowing I've lived frugally for so long only to have the rug pulled out from under me.

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