Dear John McCain,

[DenisMutter]

Yeah - and even if it is (or isn't) a fake, everybody will line up per party lines.

what a crock of shjte.

[Chris G]

Joe "the plumber" Wurzelbacher

Originally Posted by goad74

Martin Eisenstadt’s Blog » Blog Archive » Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher related to Charles “the Crook” Keating. Oops.

"John McCain did great tonight in the debate. But every time John mentioned “Joe the Plumber,” some of us in the campaign banged our heads against the wall. If Steve Schmidt had any hair left, I hear he would have been pulling it out tonight. He reportedly screamed at John’s debate prep team tonight (out of earshot of reporters, of course). “You idiots - he’s related to Charles Keating… of the Keating Five scandal!” They thought they had a real live Joe Six-Pack who’s spurned Barack Obama’s tax plan. But what they forgot to do was check on Joe Wurzelbacher’s background.

Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.

Does any of this make Joe the Plumber a bad guy? Of course not. In fact, after that ill-fated night at the Watergate, he may finally be giving plumbers a good name. But at a debate where John goes full bore on Obama for guilt-by-association with William Ayers (and dodges a bullet by Obama not mentioning Keating Five), the press is going to bring it back front and center by midday tomorrow once they delve deeper into the most popular plumber in America."

I've read that around, too...

As soon as I saw that fellow, the first thing I thought was, 'I bet this guy owns a pair of Dr. Marten oxbloods'. He's lives in the suburbs of Toledo, Ohio. Incidentally, a city that has a very large white-power skinhead movement, national rallies held there, etc.

.:: Blood & Honour USA ::.

Does anybody here know anyone in Toledo?

Would be an interesting October surprise to see a picture of this bloke show up, sporting red suspenders and a swastika.

He's 34 years old.

Ironically, according to someone who claims they purchased an Intelius background check on him, his prior addresses were in both Arizona, and Alaska. Interesting. I've used Intelius in the past. I'm not going to drop $60 to purchase the background check myself to verify, but these are the known addresses they claim are listed for him:

Toledo, Ohio
Eielson Afb, Alaska
Tucson, Arizona
North Pole, Alaska
Mesa, Arizona

Anyone know anyone in Toledo, Tucson or any of these places in that age bracket, active in the punk rock scene, back in the day? In that 16-22 window at that age where such organizations draw their recruits?

If he is 34, that would be about: 1990-1996

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There's also a lot of talk that he's a Sarah Palin plant:

Progress Ohio | Dave Harding's Blog: Do Todd and Sarah Palin Know Doug Wurzelbacher Of Wasilla, Alaska?

Originally Posted by ProgressOhio

Do Todd and Sarah Palin Know Doug Wurzelbacher Of Wasilla, Alaska?

Adventures guide Doug Wurzelbacher stores the hook used to anchor the dog sled.
Photo by Mark S. Bacon, special to the Chronicle

It would appear so . . . I mean it is a "small town" with small town values.

Is Doug Wurzelbacher related to Joe Wurzelbacher AKA "Plumber Joe"?

According to the census, there are less than 175 Wurzelbachers in the country, and one of them lived in... WASILLA, ALASKA! and was involved in competitive snow racing.

Klondike 300 Final standings and finish times:

1) Mitch Seavey, Sterling, 2:33 p.m. Monday; 2) Tyrell Seavey, Sterling, 5:35 p.m. Monday; 3) Peter Bartlett, Wasilla, 6:37 p.m. Monday; 4) Ellen Halverson, Wasilla, 11:21 p.m. Monday; 5) Chad Nordlum, Anchorage, 11:42 p.m.; 6) Wayne Curtis, Wasilla, 12:21 a.m. Tuesday; 7) Douglas Wurzelbacher, Wasilla, 4:12 a.m. Tuesday; 8) William Borden, Kennesaw, Ga., 5:05 p.m. Tuesday; 9) Perry Solomonson, Plain, Wash., 5:15 p.m. Tuesday; 10) Judy Merritt, Moose Pass, 5:33 p.m. Tuesday.

[Source] "Alaska Sports Digest", Anchorage Daily News (Alaska) January 23, 2002

and what was Todd Palin doing around that time?

Todd Palin and Dusty VanMeter won the 2002 Tesoro Iron Dog Classic snowmachine race Saturday, edging Marc McKenna and Eric Quam by about a minute and a half.

Palin, of Wasilla, and VanMeter, of Kasilof, drove Arctic Cat snowmobiles in the Pro and Master's Class and crossed the finish line at Pike's Landing on the Chena River west of Fairbanks at 10:52 a.m.

... The top 10 finishers split a purse of $100,000.
... The race is the longest snowmobile race in the world, covering 1,971 miles. It started Feb. 17 at Wasilla.


[Source] Palin, VanMeter win Iron Dog Classic", The Associated Press State & Local Wire, February 23, 2002

There were only about 5,500 people living in Wasilla at the time and Palin had already been mayor for 6 years

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But maybe he's just a guy who lives in Toledo who like to shave his head.


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[Naked Rob]

John McCain Accidentally Left On Campaign Bus Overnight

[MaximumFluoride]

Seriously? Did you really go there?


I've read that around, too...

As soon as I saw that fellow, the first thing I thought was, 'I bet this guy owns a pair of Dr. Marten oxbloods'. He's lives in the suburbs of Toledo, Ohio. Incidentally, a city that has a very large white-power skinhead movement, national rallies held there, etc.

.:: Blood & Honour USA ::.

Does anybody here know anyone in Toledo?

Would be an interesting October surprise to see a picture of this bloke show up, sporting red suspenders and a swastika.

He's 34 years old.

Ironically, according to someone who claims they purchased an Intelius background check on him, his prior addresses were in both Arizona, and Alaska. Interesting. I've used Intelius in the past. I'm not going to drop $60 to purchase the background check myself to verify, but these are the known addresses they claim are listed for him:

Toledo, Ohio
Eielson Afb, Alaska
Tucson, Arizona
North Pole, Alaska
Mesa, Arizona

Anyone know anyone in Toledo, Tucson or any of these places in that age bracket, active in the punk rock scene, back in the day? In that 16-22 window at that age where such organizations draw their recruits?

If he is 34, that would be about: 1990-1996


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But maybe he's just a guy who lives in Toledo who like to shave his head.


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[Brad]

Originally Posted by VonDada

Someone should get him a Xanax and a good night's rest.

Someone should do that for me.

[Chris G]

Originally Posted by MaximumFluoride

Seriously? Did you really go there?

Yep, I went there. I've actually been Googling around a bit, and now doubt it's the case, but I've found a lot of people "going there".

Toledo, Ohio, guy who shaves his head wanting to get confrontational with an African American presidential candidate.

Sorry, but it wouldn't have surprised me at all.

[MaximumFluoride]

Wow.

Are all African American men from South Los Angeles likely to be gang members as well?

[IVARTON]

Of course they are Cuz.

[Robbie Fuct]

im from florida

[Chris G]

Originally Posted by MaximumFluoride

Wow.

Are all African American men from South Los Angeles likely to be gang members as well?

You're well aware there's more too it than that. Maybe if it were an African American from South Central, wearing something associated with a known gang (maybe their gang colors), getting confrontational with... whomever their gang's nemesis is (don't know anything about South Central gangs, sorry), it might come to mind as a possibility. It's not the exact parallel, but it's close.

But I do totally give you cred for your equal opportunity contrarianism, Mike.


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