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Old 10-08-2008, 11:57 AM
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These two parties are very different (I just happen to disagree with both of them).


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in theory, yes, but in practice.....????

moderator: do you support gay marriage ?
biden: barack obama and myself will fight so there is no constitutional difference between a straight couple and a gay couple.
moderator: so you support gay marriage ?
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in theory, yes, but in practice.....????

moderator: do you support gay marriage ?
biden: barack obama and myself will fight so there is no constitutional difference between a straight couple and a gay couple.
moderator: so you support gay marriage ?
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The gay marriage position is not my litmus test.


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Old 10-08-2008, 12:18 PM
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The fact that McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand is very telling. And, the whole "That One" bullshit just shows that Obama has gotten in McCain's head.

Oh, man, Round 3 is going to be a doozy.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:22 PM
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The fact that McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand is very telling. And, the whole "That One" bullshit just shows that Obama has gotten in McCain's head.

Oh, man, Round 3 is going to be a doozy.
the handshake is over-blown. zach hobbs already called it. they had already shaken hands and mccain's intent was to get obama's attention to shake his wife's hand.

the "that one" comment. not racist but...... damn!!!!! what a bitter little f*ck !
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The hand shake is iffy for me. Yes - maybe they did shake hands earlier, but why leave him hanging after tapping him on the shoulder??

As for "that one" - I don't necesarrily see it as a race thing at all. I do, however, agree that it shows Obama is getting to him. I'm sure McCain is kicking himself for saying that and I'm sure it only came out on impulse. You could see he was feeling bitter and very angry. His body language was insane all night.
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Old 10-08-2008, 12:54 PM
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The gay marriage position is not my litmus test.


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My litmus test is foreign policy, which I think makes the two major parties nearly identical. Consider both the candidates' remarkably undemocratic rejection of real justice for Palestinians and sanctimonious positions regarding officially sanctioned enemies (Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Russia).

Just my opinion. The framework of mainstream debate in the US is crippling to real democracy.
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"That One" is just the singular form of "You People."

Even if it isn't Racist, it's diminuitizing and dehumanizing. It's reductive and mean-spirited.
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