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    The fact that McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand is very telling. And, the whole "That One" bullshit just shows that Obama has gotten in McCain's head.

    Oh, man, Round 3 is going to be a doozy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonDada View Post
    The fact that McCain wouldn't shake Obama's hand is very telling. And, the whole "That One" bullshit just shows that Obama has gotten in McCain's head.

    Oh, man, Round 3 is going to be a doozy.
    the handshake is over-blown. zach hobbs already called it. they had already shaken hands and mccain's intent was to get obama's attention to shake his wife's hand.

    the "that one" comment. not racist but...... damn!!!!! what a bitter little f*ck !

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    The hand shake is iffy for me. Yes - maybe they did shake hands earlier, but why leave him hanging after tapping him on the shoulder??

    As for "that one" - I don't necesarrily see it as a race thing at all. I do, however, agree that it shows Obama is getting to him. I'm sure McCain is kicking himself for saying that and I'm sure it only came out on impulse. You could see he was feeling bitter and very angry. His body language was insane all night.

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    "That One" is just the singular form of "You People."

    Even if it isn't Racist, it's diminuitizing and dehumanizing. It's reductive and mean-spirited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonDada View Post
    I just did a spit take.

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    This "that one" thing is taking flight...

    I will agree with everyone else, Obama clearly extended his hand to McCain (even if they'd already shook hands once, this much is clear) and he got left hanging.

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    Look. African Americans are pretty sensitive about the whole "You people" thing so its an easy thing for people who already see McCain as at least semi racist to think that "That one" was a watered down version of "You people".

    I think he was trying to do what he did in the first debate and try to make Obama seem inexperienced. naive. and insignificant. I think however.... he fucked up.
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