Just to play devil's advocate, I think that applying your own creativity to a poster format associated with film/music/etc an entirely valid facet of artistry. I find it sad when the artists themselves decides to base their whole body of work to that format and flog them off for bucks quite distressing... death of pure creativity maybe??? There's only so much you can rehash what's in the commercial realm... and genuinely talented artists at their craft seem fewer and far between, then again does it make them any less artists because they're not master craftsmen?
Originally Posted by bingybunny
But then again what is that line between fine art and copyright infringement? I'm not sure if Warhol sought permission with his soup cans etc but he certainly sold them, and to go full circle, now Campbells are even selling their own Warhol variants. I'm not saying there's a blanket justification for artists to use the 'it's artistic interpretation' argument, but when commercial entities shove their products in our faces incessantly in the public realm, without our prior permission, then who can really blame this shit filtering into the art that gets churned out the other side? Think about it, shit is getting sold to us ALL the time, CONSTANTLY in our visual and even personal space, be that radio, tv, online, hell even taking a walk you cant get away from fucking billboards or flyers. I think it's inevitable that these things will pop through into art time and again when people are bombarded with it.
I think the reason a lot of guys use this format is because chances are:
a) First and foremost, they're actually inspired by the thing they're illustrating which compels them to make a piece.
b) they feel they can get more interest attaching it to a popular 'thing' than painstakingly creating an original piece that no one gives a rat's ass about.
Like I said before, kudos to the guys going for it the legit way, personally I wouldn't sell something based on another intellectual property unless I was commissioned by the respective parties. I'd be happy making fan pieces, but making money purely on the coat tails of something proven successful is an ethical minefield.
In the end, if anything, It seems a bit fucking tacky, like all the half assed 'printers' I see locally that sell banksy canvasses for £20, £30, £60 even £100+. They rip images off the net print them through a large scale epson onto canvas, slam them in shop window = LAZY ASS PURE PROFIT. Fucking hell the lot of us must be doing something wrong, especially when I see you guys sell for circa $20-$30 for a beautiful hand pulled print.
This thread is pretty amazing.
Great read. I finally got bootlegged, a US gig poster made into an Italian tour shirt for a band. Some of them looked pretty sweet.
I saw another argument like this in one of my Japanese toy threads. Coop made an amazing drawing of a rare Japanese toy, some guy made a lino cut of his illo and was preparing to sell prints to friends. A large segment of the crowd saw nothing wrong with this, and couldn't understand the concept of a theft of art.
In the end, Coop stopped posting very large files of his art, which sucked, and the guy never made prints.
I want to make the greatest Led Zeppelin poster ever. Some day I will get around to it.
don't forget the variants!
I'm currently working on my glow in the dark Novemberists poster.
Sucks that you're getting bootlegged, but that also means that you have arrived. Rather than riding someone's intellectual coat tails, you are making your own pop-culture. That is something a lot of us strive for and you accomplished. And I think that's toatlly fucking awesome.
Originally Posted by soupsandwich
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That's damned near Shakespearian.
hi guys! first post! what a thread!
I just started to doing linocut prints this year for a band that I love but everything is within the copyright guidelines put forth by the band management. Is that still considered bootleg?
I certainly can see both sides of this issue and it seems like for film and TV the use of a "likeness" is almost certain...while that may not be necessary for say concert prints. hmmm