I've done exactly two movie/tv related prints, and both were through a gallery that was working directly with the owners of the intellectual property. One was commissioned by the gallery and the other by the producers of the TV show. Because of all the silly bootlegs, I always feel the compulsion to explain that it is sanctioned/official. Artistically, I get a lot more satisfaction out of doing my own stuff; like decaying houses, clouds, and other suburban looking nonsense. But having an opportunity to produce work for a favorite tv show of mine was admittedly really cool. The operate words here, of course, are "produced for." And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm also fully aware that 98% of the people who bought one of my prints from that edition did so because they were fans of the show.
There was a thread here not that long ago where a guy was trying to call out purveyors of fan art by simply drawing a very concrete line with regard to whether or not a copyrighted name was used in the piece. To demonstrate what he believed to be the correct way of doing it, he offered up an example of one of his own prints, which unambiguously depicted the intellectual property of someone else--a tv show--but stopped short of using the show's name. To me, that still drips with the subtext, "People like [tv show], so they will buy a print of [tv show]!" I mean no offense to that particular GP user, but the whole thing seemed to be an exercise in self-exculpatory mental gymnastics.
I think bootleg art prints should be treated as we treat unofficial fan art jpgs here on GP. But they don't exist in a vacuum, and there's always going to be some dude who wants to pay for the proverbial image of Calvin pissing on Bin Laden.
well put Justin. What you and guys like Kevin Tong and Ken Taylor is totally legit and how it's done. These goofs chasing a buck off a trend are pests to this community.
The only reason I called this guy out was doing it wrong, exactly like every fan art fake poster that shows up here, unsanctioned and illegal NOT to be 'a piece of shit and an asshole' as he so eloquently PM'd me. hilarious.
I believe that fan art is okay. It took me awhile to come around to that conclusion, but I think it is. It might be the creative outlet of choice for dullards, but I support their right to do it and hope it leads to more original thinking. But as soon as someone attaches a dollar figure to it, they're bootleggin' pieces of poop in my book.
Tom should probably point out that he doesn't charge for copies of his ongoing "This Old House" fan fiction series...
I often use scenes or themes from movies in my gig posters - I use a lot of dario argento and alejandro jodorovsky scenes or elements - but I guess that's different than just doing a straight up poster for a movie or a television show past its post mortem so to speak. I'm not sure what happened all I see is a bunch of comments from vastagh so the other dude must've deleted his comments. Why do you guys even bother with EB? It seems like a collection of psychotic, non-artist, opportunistic collectors who have too much time and money and not enough hobbies or creativity of their own so they have to live vicariously through others and then bitch constantly about how poorly packaged a print was or how the photo wasn't accurate enough to depict the true colors or how a corner was slightly bent or blah blah ad infinitum. It's more of a competition amongst each other of who has spent the most money acquiring variants and limited editions than it is about the actual art. They have their favorites and, if you aren't on that list, you might as well go fuck yourself. That often happens on this site as well but at least we're willing to give people a chance - that is after pages upon pages of forum criticism, badgering and hazing...
Bootlegging sucks but really, I see nothing wrong with people wanting to do fan art if it was inspiring to them. We're all influenced by something or someone. Maybe they just ought to more subtle or tweak it so it's not so obvious. You could compare this kind of thing to bands who are straight rip-offs of other bands - the general public loves shit like that but honest musicians hate it. I don't know.
yeah, dud deleted all of his comments where he was attempting to call me out on 'talent' and legitimacy. I guess he didn't succeed and deleted his lame attempt.
I think Mr. Vastagh is talented and legitimate. I just called you OUT! And I'll say it to your face! Will you be in Hamburg next week??