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Old 07-28-2008, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by piemel View Post
I am talking about the Europeans taking over the Flatstock event and have an EPI through which they can control/organize it. EPI can coordinate with API and talk about the use of the Flatstock name.

Weren't you one of the people that initally commented that it was weird to have to sign up for the API to attend the Hamburg show? ... by now everyone should understand that in order to organize an event like Flatstock you need a infrastructure and an organization behind it... something like the API

3 freaking years have passed and there hasn't been any action taken towards actually setting up an EPI as far as I know.

I know there are tons of Euro shows and Euro galleries and hardworking folks in their basement and all that... but that is not the only thing that you need... you need that EPI. And yes I agree that some artists don't need anything like an API or EPI... but it wouldnt hurt those hipster/underground artists either... It's not mutually exclusive.

what am I saying is that I am disappointed in the fact that until now that still hasn't been accomplished ... it doesnt even need the backing of a well attended sales event... it just needs to be set up as a first step in a long process. And look at the UK folks... they seem to have organized to some degree and are building networks... where is that on the mainland. I am serious... if this is the difference then I see no reason why to keep Hamburg.. just move it to Manchester or Bristol or whatever and use the UK as your European base because it sounds like it has a lot more chance... and hell, the flights with RyanAir and EasyJet are cheap enough to make that logistically feasible

and call me a crybaby but I am serious when I say that the more time passes by the harder it will become for the European artists to get a foothold in their own area... and that would be a shame.

you have to take a first step in this proces... the idea of waiting it out until you have a secure paycheck from attending a Flatstock in Europe is not going to work... if you do that the only people that are going top be making the cash are the Americans.
I was at the fist EU FS that's why I don't want to risk anything, especially this year, I'm totally broke and a euro means EAT, not going to events. I think it's the same thing for Rica and most of french designers. It's not because we're not involved, i's because we CAN'T afford this kind of stuff, money goes to the posters, not to events around posters.
I have no fucking chance in front of US people is that kind of event, and that's why I won't go.
I prefer to follow my own way, i think that an EPI or something would be great, of course, but I seriously doubt about it. There's somthing happening in UK and that's great. But in france, people are a little bit wary about other designers (something like "he's stealing my job" and trust me, I already heard that. they just can't imagine that there could me place enough for everybody). So it's a little bit hard to imagine that we could join and make something happen here.
Maybe EU needs a structure, but it has to be different as the API I think. I don't believe that something permanent would work, maybe more something more specific.

But I'm really tired of all this poster stuff, really. Too hard, too expensive, not enough interest.
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