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Grushkin : |
Leia, you go girl. One of the all-time great threads. |
2008-04-11 17:36:20 |
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Leia : |
BUMP. |
2008-04-11 17:24:42 |
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b_turner : |
look how far we've come since this... it's funny how this put so many people on their ear when nick posted this.... reading through this discussion is great. makes me wonder what would happen if this had been posted today instead of back then. Still remains as a great fucking piece, in every way... |
2006-02-20 06:25:11 |
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j.w. : |
Beautiful randomization. |
2004-05-16 11:28:18 |
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Plantweed : |
I gotta admit, this wouldn't stop me in the street. Re: flipped astronauts...Frank, ever see THE NINTH CONFIGURATION? |
2003-11-03 13:59:33 |
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Steve H : |
:roll: |
2003-10-06 11:26:45 |
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nemotron : |
thats A LOT of comments |
2003-10-05 17:08:00 |
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jasoncross : |
randomized greatness. |
2003-10-05 17:06:40 |
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sockMONKEY : |
hand lettering...color...overprint...everything is incredible |
2003-05-23 12:12:19 |
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Steve H : |
i saw dogstar on lager once, fuckin hilarious. |
2002-10-17 11:29:10 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
You never met her man. Think Matrix on crack. |
2002-10-17 11:21:09 |
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Steve H : |
aha, no dear boy, it would be normal, not trippy. |
2002-10-17 11:19:58 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Anybody who's met my girlfriend would tell you that life would be mother fucking trippy if we all thought like her. |
2002-10-17 11:14:31 |
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Steve H : |
wouldn't life be so boring if we all thought the same way. |
2002-10-17 11:12:05 |
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nerdling : |
Perhaps I was silly to think so, but I was under the impression that one purpose of this site was to showcase posters in a way that removes them from the context of simple paper advertisements and places them on a level where they can be discussed as art, not simply purposeful "doodles."
Personally, I don't like a majority of the posters that I see but I don't go out of my way to make snide comments about the work or the person that made it, whether they think they are making art or slapping colored paper on a wall. Time is only a small part of what it takes to make a creative endeavor worthwhile, as are technique, color, form, text and space. Picking each element apart doesn't do the work - or your critique - any justice.
Why not focus on what makes this good, rather than spending your time in a pissing contest over how much one person's opinion means?
If you like it, great. If you don't like it, great. Go look at something you do like and quit spoiling my view. |
2002-10-17 01:40:10 |
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postergirl : |
This is beautiful...reminds me of jay ryan's work |
2002-10-16 22:55:14 |
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DaveGink : |
Wow, I'm surprised to see this still going. Maybe I shouldn't be adding to this debate but it's interesting. Also, I think these discussions go much deeper than the actual art being talked about.
Harry, you're not a bad guy and most likely you are not in the minority either. It seems to me that it's usually the minority that makes the biggest noise. And remember, the crowd here is primarily artists.
I like this as a piece of art but not as a gig poster. But that's me. I don't know the bands or what their fans are like. I would personally like to have seen it more legible even though I do like the free-form feel of the type. And I can respect the artist's aesthetic decision-making process on this.
I can't imagine any of my friends or band mates liking this poster though, but again that's them. And they tend to be more rock oriented. |
2002-10-16 16:50:05 |
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Steve H : |
this looks like it was drawn whilst falling 180 metres. |
2002-10-16 16:22:40 |
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jasoncross : |
actually he was quite the procrastinator, which is why he had to do it in three hours while his client was driving 180 miles to see the designs he busted it out. My point is there is no 'formula'. If time = better, then our governments would create perfect societies with their bueracracies. |
2002-10-16 16:20:12 |
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Steve H : |
frank lloyd wright was a talented guy plast. it took him 3 hours, good for him, thats how it long it took him to do it, if he needed longer i'm sure he would have used the time effectively. |
2002-10-16 16:09:26 |
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jasoncross : |
harry your WRONG! - if you would have read Frank Lloyd Wright made the greatest piece of American Architecture - Falling Waters - in 3 hours (5 full mechanical)...how is that posible by your standards? I guess Falling Waters sucks because Henry said so. fool. |
2002-10-16 15:54:38 |
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Platinum Rich : |
this work is obviously from the jay ryan school of poster design. similar color palette and the artist's style come before the band or its musical vibe. dig it. |
2002-10-16 13:47:03 |
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Steve H : |
my eyes work perfectly fine thanks jeff, i realise i'm one of the bad guys here cause i'm not one of the people getting behind this poster, it doesn't do anything for me but it does for others, thats fair enough, but maybe if this poster is such a work of art, why don't some of u guys try this approach? it only takes about 30 seconds and plast, it makes common sense, if u spend longer on a piece, chances are its gonna look better than um a doodle. i find this debate rather amusing, the majority are saying how great this poster is while a few bad apples in the corner can't see how something like this warrants so much praise, its really mind boggling to me how so many of you are knocked out by this, if its not a doodle, what is it? i like sketchy lo-fi stuff aswell but i can't see how this one can stand out as much as some of u are suggesting, its not bad, okay i'll give it that, its not bad, but its not particularly good either. sorry if i've offended anyone who finds a couple of childs houses or milemarkers stimulating, maybe if durer had drawn like this he'd earn a few more fans like you folks. i've said my piece, cheers. |
2002-10-16 11:28:16 |
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lure : |
well, maybe "pissed off" isn't very accurate, harry. frustrated is more like it. as chloe pointed out, making p-o-t-w doesn't make this the best poster ever. but, this is a very nice piece of work. but to sluff it off as "a bad doodle" seems short sighted. THAT is the kind of thing that i find frustrating. |
2002-10-16 05:42:14 |
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electrofork : |
(200. wow.)
i think it's lovely. i would hang it in my house. and i don't know the band.
i think the 2 structures, incidentally, are meant to be mile stones (such as the ones in france?). see?
mile markers. |
2002-10-16 03:40:34 |
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jasoncross : |
Comment #200 - woo hoo...nice work Nick, and congrats Clay and Kendra for picking a poster that lit the spark! |
2002-10-15 21:15:12 |
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jasoncross : |
and yes the VOLANTE is flat out amazing. |
2002-10-15 21:08:32 |
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jasoncross : |
I like Richies and Burwels alot, cant remember too many others. |
2002-10-15 21:07:50 |
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jasoncross : |
MY point is I love a wide range of work, as in music - love bach to King Crimson I just love good quality expression - I try to leave my taste open so that I get to experience things for what they are, not what I want them to be. |
2002-10-15 21:07:07 |
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KJ : |
theres some screwups when you search for melvins. theres like 4 listings. i'll fix it...uhh soon. |
2002-10-15 21:06:30 |
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KJ : |
i love that volante poster. when i made it my desktop wallpaper-- those were some of the happiest days of my life. |
2002-10-15 21:04:06 |
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jasoncross : |
Richies Melvins, and Aesthetic Apparatus' VOLANT two VERY different poster that I think are both good in their own right. |
2002-10-15 21:02:33 |
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KJ : |
alright doods then give us some suggestions for poster of the week. |
2002-10-15 21:01:20 |
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jasoncross : |
well I am more punk than that, I am a community college drop out nah nah ni nah nah :p |
2002-10-15 21:00:17 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Art School dropout and proud of it. Says it real big on my resume too. DROPOUT. |
2002-10-15 20:56:07 |
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jasoncross : |
Thats because the band was High on Fire and it had a monster like character so it was ok...I liked it too by the way...some people just cant appreciate something that is not in their taste. what lonely little souls ;) |
2002-10-15 20:56:05 |
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jasoncross : |
Yep, Austin Community College - your the fancy pants that went to 'Art' school mr glasses and such |
2002-10-15 20:54:42 |
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KJ : |
by the way, the argument that this poster didn't take skill or talent? well, illustration wise you could probably say the same thing about last week's poster by Jay Vollmar. and EVERYBODY loved that one!! |
2002-10-15 20:53:57 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Commercial art? Isn't that what they teach at DeVry? |
2002-10-15 20:52:27 |
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KJ : |
most of the posters you see on the street look something like this:
http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=9991
a huge overload of information and images. a bunch of these on a brick wall or the side of the building is like a lot to take in. i always wonder if posters like the one i linked actually really DO succeed as advertisements. theres so much in them they seem to get lost. if i were to post just one of these milemarker posters amongst all the cramped, bold, bright posters i suspect this one would be ten times more eyecatching. if this poster was printed on butcher paper it might be something the bands/venue actually DID put up around town. i know its not like the others so the argument it fails as an advertisement-- i dont buy it.
incidentally, i didn't know clay was picking this as poster of the week. i'm not in love with it, as i said before i find it quite morose, but i'm SURE milemarker fans would dig it. poster of the week is mainly just to get people noticing something different, cool or unique. not like its a manifesto for all posters to look a certain way. as for clay's tastes being artsy-fartsy.. i dunno. i kind of doubt it. anyways, its weird to get hostile about a poster only cause its poster of the week. theres actually a few posters on this site that look similar to this one and nobody has bothered to say too much about them.
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2002-10-15 20:51:19 |
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robschwager : |
me like art and posters and richie. i get tickle in my pants... heh |
2002-10-15 20:50:18 |
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jasoncross : |
no, actually the study is called commercial art - angel of death! |
2002-10-15 20:49:00 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Isn't a dsigner talking about art kind of like people teaching religion in public schools? Seperation of church and state pal. |
2002-10-15 20:47:40 |
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jasoncross : |
yeah, poster art. :P |
2002-10-15 20:46:03 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
I've got a truckload of clues for you pal. This ain't art. It's posters. |
2002-10-15 20:43:03 |
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Grzeca : |
Ok , Ok, I wasnt being very civil there. Cut me some slack, I'm getting over an allergy attack. |
2002-10-15 20:18:40 |
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Grzeca : |
Jesus Christ you people need to get a fucking clue. Different people make different art- thats what makes life interesting - variety etc etc....god this thread makes my brain explode in frustration! I mean, slamming someone's drawing style and design approach because it is radically different than yours is beyond fucking grade school.
Goddammit.
(whew.) |
2002-10-15 20:16:51 |
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jasoncross : |
and richie, screenprinting aint hard, but until you have done it you may not respect some of the touches of texture that ae thrown in...or maybe its easier to just reproduce someone elses art work from the 60's? |
2002-10-15 19:48:18 |
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jasoncross : |
So now the ammount of time it takes makes it good? Frank Lloyd Wrights Falling Waters house must suck since it took him 3 hours to draw 5 full mechanicals. |
2002-10-15 19:46:50 |
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Steve H : |
too late ritchie, i've already been converted, this is how my works gonna look from now on, i'm gonna be on 100 posters a day, u people had better start watchin out. |
2002-10-15 17:43:58 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
It can't be that hard if you and Murphy can do it.
Heh! |
2002-10-15 17:43:38 |
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Steve H : |
okay i give up, its great, i love it, the man can certainly draw, must've taken hours, incredible. |
2002-10-15 17:31:55 |
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jasoncross : |
My point Harry is that if you dont screenprint, which by not answering my question I guess you dont, then quite possibly you dont understand why many like it. Since many that like it actually DO get their hands inky. |
2002-10-15 17:29:12 |
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Steve H : |
oh its screen printed is is? why didn't anyone tell me? the guys a friggin genius! poster of the week! saying im not jealous obviously means i am, okay then i AM jealous, this is reminding me of monty python. |
2002-10-15 17:22:00 |
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jasoncross : |
and its obvious you are jeavlous, saying your not is a failed attempt at hidding your words. |
2002-10-15 17:17:58 |
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jasoncross : |
harry - what kid would be able to screen print a poster himself? have you? what kid would use a texture (the wood grain on the building) to fill in a space like a bldg? your comments are just filled with frustration and spite, not consructive in critique at all. tact can make a big difference in making a statement. |
2002-10-15 17:16:52 |
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Steve H : |
why u pissed off jeff? is it cos some of us don't think this poster's much cop?! okay i admit it, i'm jealous, my whole life is geared towards winning poster of the week some day, its what keeps me alive, u've found me out. some of us like it some of us don't, i'm just still trying to figure out how anyone can get so excited about this piece of work. i've been here before, debating the artistic merits of a childs scribble and it doesn't make sense to me. i really don't understand how this could be concieved as a great or even good drawing, if i were an art teacher and a pupil brought this to my desk i would have trouble keeping a straight face. its like something outta the simpsons, oh yes, the air of mystery surrounding this piece, evokes a spirit of appraisal etc yadda yadda its a kids drawing whatever big words u bestow on it, thats my point, its not jealousy, i'm just an opposite opinion, sorry. |
2002-10-15 17:11:23 |
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lure : |
there's a lot to read here.
and most of it pisses me off.
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2002-10-15 16:38:36 |
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lure : |
yep, it kinda does, max. and jay's poster exceptional. |
2002-10-15 16:28:22 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
I like this poster because it reminds me of Jay Ryans posters.
Jay Ryans posters are truley exceptional.
In my opinion. |
2002-10-15 16:08:14 |
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seripop : |
i just think the negi comments sound like sour grapes to me
poster of the week
big deal
does it mean best poster ever?
no
does it mean u win money and influence?
no
it just means that clay and or kendra liked it.
how can anyone but them deciede what they like ?
saying it's not worthy is pretty rude.
i hate alot of shit but taste is taste and everyone's got it. |
2002-10-15 15:52:10 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Who said that? I think my eyes are deceiving me. Can I direct everyones attention this way. |
2002-10-15 15:48:24 |
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Platinum Rich : |
i go for the train wreck. can't take your eyes off it. |
2002-10-15 15:47:30 |
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seripop : |
can't believe everyone's in such a tizzy over this
u don't like it?
who cares.
get over it |
2002-10-15 15:46:58 |
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EMOfag : |
dan - this poster rules because of what i said in the second half of the last post. |
2002-10-15 15:45:27 |
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jasoncross : |
I like the imagery to stand out and to support the information...not a train wreck. and I am not saying that YOU use fonts in that manner I am saying that I choose not to. |
2002-10-15 15:44:03 |
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jasoncross : |
and I choose to be conservative on my font usage(usually stick to a max of two) as opposed to throwing 5 or more fonts that clash like plaid on sandpaper. |
2002-10-15 15:42:31 |
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Platinum Rich : |
i must apologize. i just received 10 pm's in the last 30 seconds telling me crackhouse is a typeface not a font. |
2002-10-15 15:41:46 |
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Dan Apparatus : |
I don't think this is a good POSTER because it's causing a controversey (that white stripes vibrator one is still dumb) but it is worthy of POTW in our little community.
I can't believe I'm still having to defend this. |
2002-10-15 15:40:56 |
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jasoncross : |
design nazi, uhmmm - ok. I made no stab at you, a bit sensative dont yah think? I actually like your work richie...for realz. I am making the point that many who dis this ohh and ahhh over work that is alot more off base from the band and far less conscious of a relative 'feel' of a band and put their own taste in front of a bands image. I reitterate I was not speaking about your work specifically Richie. |
2002-10-15 15:40:37 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
I don't know about using Crackhouse, but I might have tried to incorporate Shotgun Blanks. |
2002-10-15 15:39:20 |
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Platinum Rich : |
the crackhouse font would have made this badass. |
2002-10-15 15:38:02 |
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