deforgeo :

the idea that anyone could get worked up enough about this poster to form an opinion on it is pretty hilarious

2008-11-04 10:47:21

dennyschmickle :

erratic!

2008-11-04 10:40:51

3d glasses :

lol!

2008-11-04 10:20:05

deforgeo :

this comments thread makes me laugh

2008-11-04 10:19:11

art chantry :

what the hell was i thinking? this thing stinks!

2008-11-04 10:10:07

ImJustRickG :

Let's bring back some controversy.

2008-11-03 17:28:14

victor_howitzer :

Random Chantry favorite.

2008-11-03 12:55:12

MrBlonde7 :

Dude, what Zach said. Srsly.

2008-04-08 18:01:18

Zach Hobbs :

believe it or not just randomiziezed.

2008-03-18 21:00:05

philaarts.com :

i still cant get over how great this is!!!!!

2008-03-13 18:21:13

B-DROID :

I'm selling bootleg TGIFridays commercials with no reserve on ebay! I can taste the moneyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!

2008-03-13 15:56:43

msaputo :

I love how the logos are arranged in a straight line. Genius. And how he put the stroke on Carbona so the "A" wouldn't get lost? Wow. I need one of these.

2008-03-13 15:52:24

Baloney Boy :

art chantry is contrarian supreme, i love it

2008-03-12 17:12:31

Brainiac :

:shakesfistatmonitor:

2008-03-12 16:01:04

art chantry :

i'd still hang this on my wall long before i'd 99% of the stuff from gp on my wall. jes' the fax as i see them. don't care much if you like it or not.

2008-03-12 15:42:29

victor_howitzer :

The Ratt Poster is better than this because everyone accepts it for what it is. This poster is having way too much thought put into it. It's some dudes and information.

2008-03-12 15:20:46

Hrabovsky :

Less than oooops.

2008-03-12 15:19:01

Josh Rickun :

baloney.

2008-03-12 15:05:15

philaarts.com :

this changes everything

2008-03-12 15:02:45

Sash :

it's good to bring back old comments, though... like a reminder

2008-03-12 14:58:03

Tenebrini :

too slow... that happened 21 comments ago...

2008-03-12 14:56:13

Hrabovsky :

LESS THAN RATT

2008-03-12 14:53:49

Baloney Boy :

well, there are many layers of meaning to be found in an Applebee's ad, if you are inclined to look. issues of class identity abound, for example. yes, an Applebee's ad is a treatise on the aesthetics of the American middle class....i mean, this is the deconstructionist reading.

2008-03-12 14:49:48

standard :

In other words, Applebees ads are "fine art".

2008-03-12 14:42:23

philaarts.com :

WRONG!!

2008-03-12 14:41:44

Baloney Boy :

this kind of bloodless computer design does reflect our (cheap, ugly) contemporary world better than more tasteful work. if "art" is meant to reflect the state of the culture that produced it, then this is indeed a work of art....but then so is a TGI Fridays commercial. what i mean to say is, this isn't about grabbing a bite - it's about a bite grabbing you.

2008-03-12 14:38:24

philaarts.com :

thats it baby.. look into the camera.

2008-03-12 13:47:47

art chantry :

good morning. i'm back from my 3 hour commute to work. i work at a corporate software comapny now. i now make more money in a month than i did in a year. so, times are good. and i still think this is a superior design. a really good poster. effective. attractive. exciting. a success. not artistic, but great advertising. SELLS!!! but, you don't have to agree (especially with an old corporate whore like me.) the rule book sez, "you can disagree." it's better that way. go make your little "art." it's cool. MAYBE I'LL BUY SOME. HEH HEH.

2008-03-12 11:51:42

philaarts.com :

is this in amor?

2008-03-12 08:46:10

phoondaddy :

OMG! Chloe is fryin' fish!!!!!!!! But, she's a vegan!!!!!! SAVE THE FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-03-12 08:33:17

bathroom monkey :

Jake was a dog, so Baloney Boy is pretty right on

2008-03-12 07:25:12

philaarts.com :

you guys talking about the faux hawk guy right?

2008-03-12 07:04:31

perkins :

Hell, I can testify to that.

2008-03-11 22:07:25

scrojo :

lonely old men like attention. true story.

2008-03-11 22:06:44

perkins :

There's nothing of merit here.

2008-03-11 21:58:20

philaarts.com :

remember melia? BRICK WALL YO.

2008-03-11 18:11:04

fantasygoat :

Bleh.

2008-03-11 17:39:04

Baloney Boy :

i'd like to think my theory had a whiff of realism, though.

2008-03-11 14:30:40

Brad Klausen :

this poster is so vernacular

2008-03-11 14:28:18

Tenebrini :

but do you give a RATTs ass?

2008-03-11 14:27:22

MaximumFluoride :

"Jake" is a slang term for good or ok, etc. So, I believe their name has something to do with things "not being ok". Which is pretty fitting really.

2008-03-11 14:27:19

seriplop :

i don't really give a rat's ass about design culture , i just like stuff that's visually engaging + exciting . if a bunch of dweebs who work in advertising think our work = this , that's there problem. we've got bigger fish to fry.

2008-03-11 14:25:43

Baloney Boy :

i always wonder how bands got their names. like one of these guys had a friend named Jake & they got some tacos one day, and the one guy's taco had less taco-meat filling than Jake's, and he whined, "i got less than Jake," and immediately he experienced a revelation -"say, that'd make a pretty swell band name!"

2008-03-11 14:24:37

Tenebrini :

"Less Than RATT"

2008-03-11 14:18:15

MaximumFluoride :

Lees Than Jake are not good. Suburban Mall Ska/punk.

2008-03-11 14:17:35

philaarts.com :

you can only agree 100% mike.

2008-03-11 14:15:56

Baloney Boy :

these guys have all the hallmarks of manufactured edginess - the faux-hawk, white dreads, backwards baseball cap, ironic(?) shirt, pussy-ticklers....i bet the one dude in front is wearing an Ed Hardy shirt

2008-03-11 14:15:44

Rob :

"i think i will wear my #69 shirt for the photo shoot."

2008-03-11 13:59:15

MaximumFluoride :

I agree with Richie 100,000,000%

2008-03-11 13:59:13

Iron Canvas Studios :

I hope they're giving away Ratt posters!

2008-03-11 13:56:39

B-DROID :

Wait....there were door prizes? A raffle? I WANT TO WIN SOMETHING!!!!!

2008-03-11 13:55:49

Iron Canvas Studios :

close enough

2008-03-11 13:51:13

phoondaddy :

Remember when Long Duck Dong called Jake "Big oily bullhunk" on Sixteen Candles? "Go away, I call F.I.B., I call police!" It was the awesome.

2008-03-11 13:50:19

Robbie Fuct :

is less than jake "ska"?

2008-03-11 13:50:12

philaarts.com :

denny could only hope to do this.

2008-03-11 13:50:11

Iron Canvas Studios :

this just doesn't speak "ska" to me, thats all.

2008-03-11 13:47:35

RichieGoodtimes :

I dismiss the design culture crap...as crap. Intellectuals are stuck in their intellect.

2008-03-11 13:47:17

msaputo :

Who are these "design culture" people you speak of?

2008-03-11 13:47:13

Rob :

i WIN everyday!!

2008-03-11 13:47:10

dennyschmickle :

See, the great thing about a faux-hawk is that it gives you that edgy "youth-culture" rebellious look when you want it, but you still have the option to comb it down and appear to be a respectable employee for the rest of the week. it's a WIN/WIN!!

2008-03-11 13:44:44

danieldanger :

i like the work on this sight.

2008-03-11 13:40:54

phoondaddy :

Hi Art!

2008-03-11 13:40:33

art chantry :

this gigposter clique can be so snobby. would it interest you to know that a LOT of design culture people really don't see any real difference between most of the work on this sight (including, sadly, even seripop) and this "admat" poater (as you erroneously call it)? it's all crap to design culture people. they dismiss our work as junk. and here, you guys dismiss this work the same way. so, the idea that you guys sniff at a poster like this as "bad", i find rather funny in a cute and pathetic sort of way. youse cracketh me ups.

2008-03-11 13:38:14

scrojo :

i hope that my band stays small enough to never have a sa-weet fauxhawk.

2008-03-11 13:36:55

Rob :

that one dude has a sa-weet fauxhawk!

2008-03-11 13:35:48

philaarts.com :

then you wont get a great poster chole.

2008-03-11 13:34:20

seriplop :

i hope that my band stays small enough to never have a poster like this.

2008-03-11 13:33:40

Iron Canvas Studios :

I don't like this, it does get the job done though.

2008-03-11 13:30:33

soupsandwich :

I changed my mind, I don't like dudes hair anymore

2008-03-11 13:28:11

Baloney Boy :

that 69 jersey is a work of art

2008-03-11 13:28:06

ROTATOR :

I have about 230 admat type posters (ones where the management specifically want a photo or logo(s) used and dictate how are where the said photos or logos are to be positioned) I tend not to post those, for a variety of reasons, but mostly because I don't want pre-dictated design to represent my vision of what I see for the musicians. I do get (some) freelance jobs from my Gigposters® page, and I don't want to represent myself to potential art directors/clients with design work, essentially, they (in my opinion) could do themselves...

2008-03-11 13:25:48

dennyschmickle :

pew!! pew!! pew!!

2008-03-11 13:19:50

philaarts.com :

hey schimkcle!!! stop with the bullets!!! rant rant rant

2008-03-11 13:17:39

dennyschmickle :

25/04?! what month is that SEPTOBUARY!?

2008-03-11 13:17:04

John A :

Is Art talking to himself again?

2008-03-11 13:15:38

art chantry :

magnifico - everybody thinks they can do this. try it. it's hard to do well. honest. it just looks easy - sorta like making a good poster... never underestimate things that look easy, because they're usually the hardest of all.

2008-03-11 13:13:22

art chantry :

phil - highly accomplished designers? really? where? i see people who draw pictures and put type on the drawings and call it "art". where's "the designers". but i digress... phill, yer an ass. please leave.

2008-03-11 13:10:48

El Negro Magnifico! :

Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but as someone that does "design by committee" all day, I'm pretty confident that I could do this, and with some degree of success. It keeps me grounded. What Sergio does is admirable.

2008-03-11 13:10:41

ferg2001 :

FISH ON...and its a grandaddy!!!

2008-03-11 13:09:35

steve w :

I agree with Art about having restrictions. I also think I could have done this. I've done worse.

2008-03-11 13:09:03

philaarts.com :

oh art. why not start a thread and discuss why most highly accomplished designers here cant do an ad mat? instead of making it about you.

2008-03-11 13:08:29

art chantry :

phil - barging in with them bullets to toss in the campfire again?

2008-03-11 13:06:57

art chantry :

max - ok. i'll qualify that to "...do it WELL."

2008-03-11 13:06:17

philaarts.com :

everything i knew about hot wings has changed.

2008-03-11 13:06:09

ferg2001 :

Art cant count for shit

2008-03-11 13:05:54

MaximumFluoride :

I agree with Art accept for the notion that people here couldn't do it.

2008-03-11 13:05:15

art chantry :

i tend to champion the more difficult task. i think most people in "design culture" dismiss the boring work out there to easily and overlook the sheer monumental difficulties in favor of praising the pretty and "artistic" work. be honest, the "arty" shit is easy. the boring stuff is the hard stuff. 'design culture' never understands that. they start dissing it with words like "vernacular". it's insulting. the arty stuff is easy. you don't have any clients to say 'no'.

2008-03-11 13:05:04

dennyschmickle :

fuse shawn

2008-03-11 13:02:38

ferg2001 :

fish on?

2008-03-11 13:01:44

dennyschmickle :

no sierously. I think thibking is overrated. and I concur that designing purely functional flyers/posters can be challenging to designers who usually have more freedom (including myself), but that doesn't necesarily mean it's good/better. the best designer/artist/whatever does BOTH really well.

2008-03-11 13:00:56

art chantry :

typo. sorry. i iz slopppy.

2008-03-11 12:58:38

dennyschmickle :

THIBKING is overrated.

2008-03-11 12:56:13

art chantry :

the best design work happens inside of restrictions. it forces the designer to really THIBK. the fact that this designer was SO restricted and came up with a classic looking poster that could have been from the 50's or the 70's or the 90's or ? is absolutely great. reality is that we never get a chance to follow our creative "muse" in design. we always work FOR a client. this ain't "art". this stuff looks like real adverts that happen to be about rock concerts. they looks so 1970's that they hit that style accidently right on the head. they look way cool because of it. pure function, no artistic haze to view through. aka - no bullshit poster design. real classic stuff that's VERy hard to do well. i'll bet NONE of you could do this. you all dis it. but, you can't DO it.

2008-03-11 12:54:11

ROTATOR :

Well, I agree with that sentiment in general --- I oft see posters that are so abstracted, and are obviously self promotion tools for the "artist", that if I was the bands management or venue promoter I would say "back to the drawing board Picasso", I need to sell some tickets for THIS band, not another art piece for your assy coffee house "gallery"....that being said, admats leave very little wiggle room for creativity, and therefore become intrinsically more disposable....

2008-03-11 12:47:13

art chantry :

well, all that aside - i still love this stuff. i'd be far far more likely to hang something like this on my wall than i would most of the "artistic" posters on this site. this is a real poster. most of this other stuff on this site is pretentious fake artistry. rubbish. heh heh... but, then, that's just one man's opinion. i love this poster (and them other two, too.)

2008-03-11 11:17:32

electr. :

you are 100% right.

2008-03-11 08:58:19

ROTATOR :

Scrojo and I had a long, venting conversation about having to create ad-mat type posters such as this. They can be a good lesson in composition, but ultimately, they are a soul sucking exercise, as you find yourself having to put 15 logos, management information, and in this case; hairdresser information.....

2008-03-11 08:05:09

soupsandwich :

I like the one guys hair

2008-03-11 07:41:32

electr. :

I've done that for all through the 90s, believe me, it's not. "seems so much more real and 'poster like' than the stuff the rest of us do."

2008-03-11 07:37:45

El Negro Magnifico! :

It does the job.

2008-03-11 00:12:25

art chantry :

i think all three of these caldas poster are really cool. i love stuff like this. seems so much more real and 'poster like' than the stuff the rest of us do.

2008-03-10 19:49:47

JukeboxCriminal :

This poster is less than good. Am I right, guys?

2008-03-10 14:30:10

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