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DESIGNER:

Scrojo

VENUE:

Belly Up

Aspen

USA

SUBMITTED BY:

scrojo

2008-01-11 11:32:34

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Zach Hobbs :

should've been posted Day 1: http://www.gigposters.com/comments/4196_Ace.html

2008-02-11 22:52:45

battag16 :

I was going to say I like this poster, but that seems irrelevant for some reason.

2008-01-28 20:51:18

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

my pleasure. hey, cool poster!

2008-01-19 22:08:30

scrojo :

.....i just need one more ....

2008-01-19 22:06:49

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

what would the US be like if this poster won the civil war?

2008-01-19 21:21:29

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

RAY DEE... OH.

2008-01-19 21:20:38

scrojo :

4 to go.

2008-01-19 21:13:25

Zach Hobbs :

I still dig that nofx song. that was a great record.

2008-01-19 21:12:00

John A :

9 to 5 and 5 to 9 Ain't gonna take it It's our time We want the world and we want it know We're gonna take it anyhow
We want the airwaves We want the airwaves We want the airwaves, baby If rock is gonna stay alive
Oh yeah-well all right Let's rock-tonite All night
Where's your guts And will to survive And don't you wanna Keep rock n' roll music alive Mr. Programmer I got my hammer and I'm gonna Smash my Smash my Radio
We want the airwaves We want the airwaves We want the airwaves, baby If rock is gonna stay alive

2008-01-19 21:10:32

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

Take a look At what I took A leaf out of everybody's book We see what you can't see I'm caught in a trap of my own Like everybody I know
This won't be played on your radio tonight This won't be played on your radio tonight This won't be played on your radio tonight
Do you all know Of the emperor's clothes Walking down an empty road We see what you can't see That's not how I wanna be Anyhow, everytime, the same dream
This won't be played on your radio tonight This won't be played on your radio tonight This won't be played on your radio tonight
This won't be played on your radio Show This won't be played on your radio tonight (oh no)
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na

2008-01-19 21:08:42

scrojo :

just in case anyone is curious...... i have 4more posters waiting in approval that are also straight rips on soviet matchbooks.

2008-01-19 21:08:32

andydiesel :

We wrote this song, it's not too short, not too long It's got back-up vocals in just the right places (in just the right places) It's got a few oohs and ahhs (oooh aaah) And it takes a little pause Just before I sing the F word
Please play this song on the radio
Almost every line is sung on time Almost every verse ends in a rhyme The only problem we had was writing enough words (oooh aaah) But that's okay, because the chorus is Coming up again now
Please play this song on the radio Please play this song on the radio
Please play this song on the radio Please play this song on the radio Please play this song on the radio Please play this song on the radio Please play this song on the radio (please play this song) Please play this song on the radio (please play this song)
Right about this time Some shit head will be drawin a fat fuckin' line Over the title on the back sleave What an asshole! So Mr. DJ I hope you've already made your segue Or the FCC is gonna take a shit right on your head
Can't play this song on the radio (can't play this song) Can't play this song on the radio (can't play this song)

2008-01-19 21:07:19

John A :

I bet they won't play this song on the radio I bet you they won't play this new bleep song It's not that it's buzz or beep beep controversial Just that the dinging words are awfully strong
You can't say honk on the radio Or shot or twang or bleh, You can't even say I'd like to creak you one day Unless you're a doctor with a very large boing
So I bet you they won't play this song on the radio I bet you they daren't scratching well programme it I bet you their ch-chinging old Programme Directors Will think it's a load of horse raspberry

2008-01-19 21:05:19

scrojo :

http://www.gigposters.com/poster/52875_Selecter.html

2008-01-19 21:03:22

soupsandwich :

ahh..the Selecter!

2008-01-19 21:01:35

scrojo :

only 13more songs then i recapture the.....wait........ i have REAL friends !!?!???!??!!!

2008-01-19 21:00:53

kustomkitten :

I bought my baby a red radio He played it all day, a-go-go, a-go-go He liked to dance to it down in the streets He said he loved me but he loved the beat
But when I switch on I rotate the dial I could see it there driving him so wild I bought my baby a red radio He said he loved me but he had to go
(It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio On my radio, on my radio, on my radio
I bought my baby a red radio He played it all day, a-go-go, a-go-go He liked to dance to it down in the streets He said he loved me but he loved the beat
(It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio On my radio, on my radio, on my radio
(It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio (It's just the same old show) On my radio On my radio, on my radio, on my radio
It's just the same old show on my radio It's just the same old show on my radio It's just the same old show on my radio It's just the same old show on my radio
I bought my baby a red radio A red radio, a-go-go, a-go-go A red radio I rotate the dial A red radio driving him so wild
A red radio he had to go I bought my baby a red radio A red radio, a-go-go, a-go-go

2008-01-19 20:55:29

MrBlonde7 :

Scroji Berries

2008-01-19 10:50:36

MaximumFluoride :

Scroji is what his REAL friends call him.

2008-01-19 10:14:29

john seabury :

Turn on, tune in, DROP OUT!

2008-01-18 22:27:30

whiteyhouston :

Scrotjo

2008-01-18 22:16:43

msaputo :

Who's this Scroji character you guys keep talking about?

2008-01-18 22:11:23

ROTATOR :

"True. And Scroji does that pretty well. Just not here" .... oh Gawd.. there's more than one?!

2008-01-18 12:53:50

Iron Canvas Studios :

"......... i thought i was."
This is switching it up, along with your posters with the "sketchier" style line work and etc... I was just stating I think it's a good thing when people switch it up every so often.

2008-01-18 12:49:56

MaximumFluoride :

True. And Scroji does that pretty well. Just not here.

2008-01-18 12:40:44

scrojo :

......... i thought i was.

2008-01-18 12:40:42

Iron Canvas Studios :

never hurts to try something different every once in while - you know, switch it up a bit.

2008-01-18 12:38:34

scrojo :

C- is more than generous.

2008-01-18 12:36:17

MaximumFluoride :

As a scrojo poster I say it is a C- at best.

2008-01-18 12:24:52

art chantry :

did frank say "penis"? is he back? did i finally goad him out of self-imposed retirement?

2008-01-18 11:47:35

scrojo :

bump.

2008-01-18 11:30:17

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

Baby your mind is a radio Got a reciever inside my head Baby I'm tuned to your wavelength Lemme tell you what it says:
Transmitter! Oh! picking up something good Hey, radio head! The sound...of a brand-new world.
So look at my fingers vibrate From their tip down down to my toes Now I'm recieving your signal We're gonna leave the land of noise
Transmitter! Oh! picking up something good Hey, radio head! The sound...of a brand-new world.
[Radio Head lyrics on http://www.metrolyrics.com]
Transmitter! Oh! picking up something good Hey, radio head! The sound...of a brand-new world.
Now you and I have no secrets Now baby, lemme read your mind I hear ev'rything you're thinking You can't help the way you sound
Transmitter! Picking up something good. Hey! radio head! The sound...of a brand-new world Oh! radio head Radio head Radio head Radio head

2008-01-18 08:17:08

philaarts.com :

phillip rivers just called scrojo a clip art hack.

2008-01-18 06:26:07

Grushkin :

I'm drivin' in my car Turn on the radio . . .

2008-01-17 21:55:51

HolyCrapstick :

I think I had two minor heart attacks while reading this thread. need less bacon.
this radio looks happy

2008-01-17 21:18:18

thejuice :

dang, i do like the poster

2008-01-17 21:10:42

whiteyhouston :

scrodio

2008-01-17 20:53:54

IVARTON :

Schlong

2008-01-17 20:46:49

Barry Obama :

penis

2008-01-17 20:34:12

RichieGoodtimes :

Wherever it came from...it's highly unremarkable...which is fine, cause it's jut a fucking gigposter..and Scrojo craps out about 75 posters a minute.

2008-01-17 20:23:01

scrojo :

it's because of the writer's strike.

2008-01-17 20:08:07

THE PiNCH :

this show is a repeat

2008-01-17 20:06:42

scrojo :

too funny. never saw the veer version before. never even knew veer existed till now. i found the image thru the "reference" thread here on GP. it was a straight up soviet matchbook. i used the stamp tool in PS in a few places to extract the original text while separating the colors for vector transfer. so i'm confused how Veer can say this is "rights managed"....... a 45-55year old design from the soviet union ( an entity that no longer exists ). ???

2008-01-17 20:01:10

JohnnyThief :

Boy: I remember every little thing As if it happened only yesterday Parking by the lake And there was not another car in sight And I never had a girl Looking any better than you did And all the kids at school They were wishing they were me that night
And now our bodies are oh so close and tight It never felt so good, it never felt so right And we're glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife C'mon! Hold on tight! C'mon! Hold on tight!
Though it's cold and lonely in the deep dark night I can see paradise by the dashboard light
Girl: Ain't no doubt about it We were doubly blessed Cause we were barely seventeen And we were barely dressed
Ain't no doubt about it Baby got to go and shout it Ain't no doubt about it We were doubly blessed
Boy: Cause we were barely seventeen And we were barely dressed
Baby doncha hear my heart You got it drowning out the radio I've been waiting so long For you to come along and have some fun
And I gotta let ya know No you're never gonna regret it So open up your eyes I got a big surprise It'll feel all right Well I wanna make your motor run
And now our bodies are oh so close and tight It never felt so good, it never felt so right And we're glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife C'mon! Hold on tight! C'mon! Hold on tight!
Though it's cold and lonley in the deep dark night I can see paradise by the dashboard light Paradise by the dashboard light
You got to do what you can And let Mother Nature do the rest Ain't no doubt about it We were doubly blessed Cause we were barely seventeen And we were barely--
We're gonna go all the way tonight We're gonna go allt he way An tonight's the night...
Radio Broadcast: Ok, here we go, we got a real pressure cooker going here, two down, nobody on, no score, bottom of the ninth, there's the wind-up and there it is, a line shot up the middle, look at him go. This boy can really fly! He's rounding first and really turning it on now, he's not letting up at all, he's gonna try for second; the ball is bobbled out in center, and here comes the throw, and what a throw! He's gonna slide in head first, here he comes, he's out! No, wait, safe--safe at second base, this kid really makes things happen out there. Batter steps up to the plate, here's the pitch-- he's going, and what a jump he's got, he's trying for third, here's the throw, it's in the dirt-- safe at third! Holy cow, stolen base! He's taking a pretty big lead out there, almost daring him to try and pick him off. The pitcher glance over, winds up, and it's bunted, bunted down the third base line, the suicide squeeze in on! Here he comes, squeeze play, it's gonna be close, here's the throw, there's the play at the plate, holy cow, I think he's gonna make it!
II. Let Me Sleep On It
Girl: Stop right there! I gotta know right now! Before we go any further--!
Do you love me? Will you love me forever? Do you need me? Will you never leave me? Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life? Will you take me away and will you make me your wife? Do you love me!? Will you love me forever!? Do you need me!? Will you never leave me!? Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life!? Will you take me away and will you make me your wife!? I gotta know right now Before we go any further Do you love me!!!? Will you love me forever!!!?
Boy: Let me sleep on it Baby, baby let me sleep on it Let me sleep on it And I'll give you my answer in the morning
Let me sleep on it Baby, baby let me sleep on it Let me sleep on it And I'll give you my answer in the morning
Let me sleep on it Baby, baby let me sleep on it Let me sleep on it And I'll give you my answer in the morning
Girl: I gotta know right now! Do you love me? Will you love me forever? Do you need me? Will you never leave me? Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life? Will you take me away and will you make me your wife? I gotta know right now! Before we go any further Do you love me? And will you love me forever?
Boy: Let me sleep on it Baby, baby let me sleep on it Let me sleep on it And I'll give you my answer in the morning Let me sleep on it!!!
Girl: Will you love me forever?
Boy: Let me sleep on it!!!
Girl: Will you love me forever!!!
III. Praying for the End of Time
Boy: I couldn't take it any longer Lord I was crazed And when the feeling came upon me Like a tidal wave I started swearing to my god and on my mother's grave That I would love you to the end of time I swore that I would love you to the end of time!
So now I'm praying for the end of time To hurry up and arrive Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you I don't think that I can really survive I'll never break my promise or forget my vow But God only knows what I can do right now I'm praying for the end of time It's all that I can do Praying for the end of time, so I can end my time with you!!!
Boy: It was long ago and it was far away and it was so much better than it is today
Girl: It never felt so good It never felt so right And we were glowing like A metal on the edge of a knife

2008-01-17 19:51:58

goad74 :

"That's my radio. Period."

2008-01-17 19:45:33

andydiesel :

Drayton - shocklee - sadler
Hit me Going, going, gone Now I dialed 911 a long time ago Dont you see how late theyre reactin They only come and they come when they wanna So get the morgue embalm the goner They dont care cause they stay paid anyway They teach ya like an ace they cant be betrayed I know you stumble with no use people If your life is on the line they youre dead today Late comings with the late comin stretcher Thats a body bag in disguise yall betcha I call em body snatchers quick they come to fetch ya? With an autopsy ambulance just to dissect ya They are the kings cause they swing amputation Lose your arms, your legs to them its compilation I can prove it to you watch the rotation It all adds up to a funky situation So get up get, get get down 911 is a joke in yo town Get up, get, get, get down Late 911 wears the late crown
911 is a joke
Everyday they dont never come correct You can ask my man right here with the broken neck Hes a witness to the job never bein done He wouldve been in full in 8 9-11 Was a joke cause they always jokin They the token to your life when its croakin They need to be in a pawn shop on a 911 is a joke we dont want em I call a cab cause a cab will come quicker The doctors huddle up and call a flea flicker The reason that I say that cause they Flick you off like fleas They be laughin at ya while youre crawlin on your knees And to the strength so go the length Thinkin you are first when you really are tenth You better wake up and smell the real flavor Cause 911 is a fake life saver
So get up, get, get get down 911 is a joke in yo town Get up, get, get, get down Late 911 wears the late crown
Ow, ow 911 is a joke

2008-01-17 19:09:30

philaarts.com :

lolrz

2008-01-17 18:57:02

John A :

1989 the number another summer (get down) Sound of the funky drummer Music hittin' your heart cause I know you got sould (Brothers and sisters hey) Listen if you're missin' y'all Swingin' while I'm singin' Givin' whatcha gettin' Knowin' what I know While the Black bands sweatin' And the rhythm rhymes rollin' Got to give us what we want Gotta give us what we need Our freedom of speech is freedom or death We got to fight the powers that be Lemme hear you say Fight the power As the rhythm designed to bounce What counts is that the rhymes Designed to fill your mind Now that you've realized the prides arrived We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart It's a start, a work of art To revolutionize make a change nothin's strange People, people we are the same No we're not the same Cause we don't know the game What we need is awareness, we can't get careless You say what is this? My beloved lets get down to business Mental self defensive fitness (Yo) bum rush the show You gotta go for what you know Make everybody see, in order to fight the powers that be Lemme hear you say... Fight the Power Elvis was a hero to most But he never meant shit to me you see Straight up racist that sucker was Simple and plain Motherfuck him and John Wayne Cause I'm Black and I'm proud I'm ready and hyped plus I'm amped Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamps Sample a look back you look and find Nothing but rednecks for 400 years if you check Don't worry be happy Was a number one jam Damn if I say it you can slap me right here (Get it) lets get this party started right Right on, c'mon What we got to say Power to the people no delay To make everybody see In order to fight the powers that be

2008-01-17 18:49:17

andydiesel :

ooh-hoo, jackie blue
lives her life from inside of a room
hides that smile when she's wearin' a frown
ooh jackie, you're not so down

you like your life in a free-form style
you'll take an inch but you'd love a mile
there never seems to be quite enough
floating around to fill your lovin' cup

ooh-hoo, jackie blue
what's a game, girl, if you never lose
ask a winner and you'll prob'bly find
ooh jackie, they've lost at sometime

don't try to tell me that you're not aware
of what you're doing and that you don't care
you say it's easy, just a nat'ral thing
like playing music but you never sing

ooh-hoo, jackie blue
making wishes that never come true
going places where you've never been
ooh jackie, you're going again
(GUITAR SOLO)

ooh-hoo, jackie blue
likes a dream that can never come true
making love is like siftin' through sand
ooh jackie, it slips through your hand

ev'ry day, in your indigo eyes
I watch the sun set but I don't see it rise
moonlight and stars in your strawberry wine
you'd take the world but you won't take the time

ooh-hoo, jackie blue
lives her life from inside of a room
makes you think that her life is a drag
ooh jackie, what fun you have had

ooh jackie, ooh jackie
ooh jackie, ooh jackie
hey, hey, hey, hey
(GUITAR SOLO)

2008-01-17 18:39:30

John A :

bump

2008-01-17 12:16:19

phoondaddy :

Beat on the brat, Beat on the brat, Beat on the brat with a baseball bat Oh yeah, oh yeah, ohh
Beat on the brat, Beat on the brat, Beat on the brat with a baseball bat Oh yeah, oh yeah, ohh Oh yeah, oh yeah, ohh
What can you do? What can you do? With a brat like that always on your back What can you lose?
What can you do? What can you do? With a brat like that always on your back What can you lose? Lose?

2008-01-17 08:10:54

perkins :

"ALL!!!"

2008-01-17 07:36:49

ricv64 :

The Buggles Lyrics, Video Killed the Radio Star Lyrics Browse by artist index Browse by soundtrack title Search in soundtracks A B C D E F G H I … Z # A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z #
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The Buggles lyrics - Video Killed the Radio Star
I heard you on the wireless back in Fifty Two Lying awake intent at tuning in on you. If I was young it didn't stop you coming through.
Oh-a oh
They took the credit for your second symphony. Rewritten by machine and new technology, and now I understand the problems you can see.
Oh-a oh
I met your children Oh-a oh
What did you tell them? Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star.
Pictures came and broke your heart. Oh-a-a-a oh
And now we meet in an abandoned studio. We hear the playback and it seems so long ago. And you remember the jingles used to go.
Oh-a oh
You were the first one. Oh-a oh
You were the last one.
Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star. In my mind and in my car, we can't rewind we've gone to far Oh-a-aho oh, Oh-a-aho oh
Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car, we can't rewind we've gone to far. Pictures came and broke your heart, put the blame on VTR.
You are a radio star. You are a radio star. Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star. Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star. (You are a radio star.)

2008-01-16 22:01:25

John A :

Interrupting all programmes This is radio clash from pirate satellite
Orbiting your living room, Cashing in the bill of rights Cuban army surplus or refusing all third lights This is radio clash on pirate satellite
This sound does not subscribe To the international plan In the psycho shadow of the white right hand Then that see ghettology as an urban viet nam Giving deadly exhibitions of murder by napalm
This is radio clash tearing up the seven veils This is radio clash please save us, not the whales This is radio clash underneath a mushroom cloud This is radio clash You dont need that funeral shroud
Forces have been looting My humanity Curfews have been curbing The end of liberty
Hands of law have sorted through My identity But now this sound is brave And wants to be free - anyway to be free
This is radio clash on pirate satellite This is not free europe Noh an armed force network This is radio clash using audio ammunition This is radio clash can we get that world to listen? This is radio clash using aural ammunition This is radio clash can we get that world to listen? This is radio clash on pirate satellite Orbiting your living room, Cashing in the bill of rights This is radio clash on pirate satellite This is radio clash everybody hold on tight
A-riggy diggy dig dang dang
Go back to urban nam

2008-01-16 19:19:11

john seabury :

Jenny said, when she was just five years old You know theres nothin happening at all Every time she put on the radio There was nothin goin down at all Not at all
One fine mornin, she puts on a new york station And she couldnt believe what she heard at all She started dancin to that fine-fine-fine-fine music Ooohhh, her life was saved by rock n roll Hey baby, rock n roll
Despite all the amputation You could dance to a rock n roll station And it was all right It was all right Hey babe
Jenny said, when she was just five years old You know theres nothin happening at all Two tv sets, two cadillac cars Ahhh, hey, aint help me nothin at all Not at all
One fine morning, she heard on a new york station She couldnt believe what she heard at all Not at all
Despite the amputation You could dance to a rock n roll station It was all right It was all right Oh, now here she comes now-now
Jenny said, when she was just five years old You know theres nothin happening at all Yeah, every time she put on the radio There was nothin goin down at all Not at all
Then one fine morning, she put on a new york station And she couldnt believe what she heard at all She started dancing to that fine-fine music Ahh, her life was saved by rock n roll Rock n roll
Despite all the amputation You could dance to the rock n roll station
Its all right, all right All right, all right All right, its all right All right, all right Baby, baby Baby, baby, ooohhh

2008-01-16 18:42:42

ricv64 :

Last night a deejay saved my life Last night a deejay saved my life, yeah ‘Cause I was sittin’ there bored to death And in just one breathe he said “You got get up, you got get up, you got get down girl” You know you drive me crazy, baby You got me turnin’ to another man
Called you on the phone no one’s home Baby, why you leave me all alone And if it wasn’t for the music I don’t know what I’d do, yeah
Last night a deejay saved my life Last night a deejay saved my life from a broken heart Last night a deejay saved my life Last night a deejay saved my life with a song You know I hopped into my car, didn’t get very far, no Because I had you on my mind, why be so unkind You got your women all around, all around this town But I was trapped in love with you and I didn’t know what to do But when I turned on my radio I found out all I needed to know Check it out Last night a deejay saved my live Last night a deejay saved my life from a broken heart Last night a deejay saved my life Last night a deejay saved my life with a song

2008-01-16 18:33:28

JohnnyThief :

Rock'n, rock'n'roll radio Let's go Rock'n, rock'n'roll radio Let's go Rock'n, rock'n'roll radio Let's go Rock'n, rock'n'roll radio Let's go
Do you remember Hullabaloo, Upbeat, Shinding and Ed Sullivan too? Do you remember rock'n'roll radio? Do you remember rock'n'roll radio?
Do you remember Murray the K, Alan Freed, and high energy? It's the end, the end of the 70's It's the end, the end of the century
Do you remember lying in bed With your covers pulled up over your head? Radio playin' so no one can see We need change, we need it fast Before rock's just part of the past 'Cause lately it all sounds the same to me Oh oh oh oh, oh oh
Will you remember Jerry Lee, John Lennon, T. Rex and OI Moulty? It's the end, the end of the 70's It's the end, the end of the century

2008-01-16 18:30:42

crosshair :

Drehen wir am Radiophon Vernehmen wir den Sendeton Durch Tastendruck mit Blitzesschnelle...(click clack) Erreichen wir die Kurze Welle Nach Feineinstellung mit der Hand Lauschen wir dem Morseband Elektronenklange aus dem Radioland
Turn the dials with your hand Till you find the short wave band Electronic music sounds from Radioland

2008-01-16 18:29:26

ricv64 :

Well I'm not uptight, not unattractive turn me on tonight, I'm radioactive. Radioactive. Well its not a fight, and I'm not your captive turn me loose to the night - I'm radioactive, radioactive
I want to stay with you; I don't want to play with you (baby) I want just to lay with you and I want you to know
got to concentrate - don't be distractive turn me loose tonight - I'm radioactive. Radioactive
(guitar solo) repeat chorus,

2008-01-16 18:25:20

swampviking :

Someone found a letter you wrote me, on the radio And they told the world just how you felt It must have fallen out of a hole in your old brown overcoat They never said your name But I knew just who they meant.
Oh, I was so surprised and shocked, and I wondered too If by change you heard it for yourself I never told a soul just how Ive been feeling about you But they said it really loud They said it on the air On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh now, now
Dont it kinda strike you sad when you hear our song Things are not the same since we broke up last june The only thing that I wanna hear is that you love me still And that you think youll be comin home real soon Whoa oh yeah yeah And it made me feel proud when I heard you say You couldnt find the words to say it yourself And now in my heart I know I can say what I really feel cause they said it really loud They said it on the air On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio
If you think that love isnt found on the radio Well tune right in you made find the love you lost cause now Im sitting here with the man I sent away long ago It sounded really loud they said it really loud On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio whoa oh oh On the radio, radio, radio (fade)

2008-01-16 18:22:31

steve w :

Radio, live transmission. Radio, live transmission.
Listen to the silence, let it ring on. Eyes, dark grey lenses frightened of the sun. We would have a fine time living in the night, Left to blind destruction, Waiting for our sight.
And we would go on as though nothing was wrong. And hide from these days we remained all alone. Staying in the same place, just staying out the time. Touching from a distance, Further all the time.
Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio.
Well I could call out when the going gets tough. The things that weve learnt are no longer enough. No language, just sound, thats all we need know, to synchronise Love to the beat of the show.
And we could dance.
Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio. Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance, to the radio.

2008-01-16 18:20:42

ricv64 :

Life is bigger Its bigger than you And you are not me The lengths that I will go to The distance in your eyes Oh no Ive said too much I set it up
Thats me in the corner Thats me in the spotlight Losing my religion Trying to keep up with you And I dont know if I can do it Oh no Ive said too much I havent said enough I thought that I heard you laughing I thought that I heard you sing I think I thought I saw you try
Every whisper Of every waking hour im Choosing my confessions Trying to keep an eye on you Like a hurt lost and blinded fool Oh no Ive said too much I set it up
Consider this The hint of the century Consider this The slip that brought me To my knees failed What if all these fantasies Come flailing around Now Ive said too much I thought that I heard you laughing I thought that I heard you sing I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream That was just a dream

2008-01-16 18:17:50

steve w :

Read about your band in some local page Didn't mention your name, didn't mention your name Sweet Georgia breezes, safe, cool and warm I headed up north, you headed north
On and on and on and on What side are you on? On and on and on and on What side are you on?
Weary voice that's laughin', on the radio once We sounded drunk, never made it on Passin' through and it's late, the station started to fade Picked another one up in the very next state
On and on and on and on What side are you on? On and on and on and on and...
Pretty girl keep growin' up, playin' make-up, wearin' guitar Growin' old in a bar, ya grow old in a bar Headed out to San Francisco, definitely not L.A. Didn't mention your name, didn't mention your name
And if I don't see ya, in a long, long while I'll try to find you Left of the dial

2008-01-16 17:46:31

crosshair :

I'd sit alone and watch your light My only friend through teenage nights And everything I had to know I heard it on my radio (Radio)
You gave them all those old time stars Through wars of worlds -- invaded by Mars You made 'em laugh -- you made 'em cry You made us feel like we could fly
So don't become some background noise A backdrop for the girls and boys Who just don't know or just don't care And just complain when you're not there You had your time, you had the power You've yet to have your finest hour (Radio)
All we hear is Radio ga ga Radio goo goo Radio ga ga All we hear is Radio ga ga Radio blah blah Radio what's new? Radio, someone still loves you!
We watch the shows -- we watch the stars On videos for hours and hours We hardly need to use our ears How music changes through the years
Let's hope you never leave old friend Like all good things on you we depend So stick around cos we might miss you When we grow tired of all this visual You had your time, you had the power You've yet to have your finest hour (Radio -- Radio)
All we hear is Radio ga ga Radio goo goo Radio ga ga All we hear is Radio ga ga Radio goo goo Radio ga ga All we hear is Radio ga ga Radio blah blah Radio what's new? Radio, someone still loves you!
You had your time, you had the power You've yet to have your finest hour (Radio)

2008-01-16 17:40:51

ImJustRickG :

1956, when the DJ broke to play us something new Hearts broke, hearts skipped, and we knew that this made for me and you When he told us he was lonely he was speaking from the heart I was much to young to know but I knew it was a start
I was raised on the radio Raised on the radio Just an all-american boy I found my favorite toy
Michelle, Lady Jane, yeah I fell in love with girls I never met I learned to play guitar while the other boys were busy learning math But all the simplest equations never add up very far And all my musical persuasions kept me reaching for the stars
I was raised on the radio Raised on the radio Just an all-American boy I've got my favorite toy
I was raised on the radio Yeah I was raised on the radio Remembering when times were bad Love is all we need and love was all we had
1964 when the DJ broke to play us something new...
Raised on the radio Raised on the radio Just an all-American boy I've got my favorite toy
I was raised on the radio Yeah I was raised on the radio Just like an all-american boy I've got my favorite toy
I was raised on the radio Raised on the radio Yes I was raised on the radio FADE
(Ideally played while polishing the Cruising Vessel)

2008-01-16 17:39:38

John A :

I'm going to steal clip art from Steve later cuz I can't afford to buy it.

2008-01-16 17:30:33

steve w :

I feel a hot wind on my shoulder And the touch of a world that is older I turn the switch and check the number I leave it on when in bed I slumber I hear the rhythms of the music I buy the product and never use it I hear the talking of the DJ Can't understand just what does he say?
I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican - whoah - radio
I dial it in and tune the station They talk about the U.S. inflation I understand just a little No comprende, it's a riddle
I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio
I wish I was in Tijuana Eating barbequed iguana I'd take requests on the telephone I'm on a wavelength far from home I feel a hot wind on my shoulder I dial it in from south of the border I hear the talking of the DJ Can't understand just what does he say?
I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio
Radio radio... Radio radio... Radio radio... I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio I'm on a mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican, whoa-Oh, radio Radio radio... What does he say ?

2008-01-16 17:30:33

Brute666 :

I'm buying some clipart right now because I can't do florals like Horkey.

2008-01-16 17:24:48

john seabury :

I was first.

2008-01-16 17:21:33

swampviking :

I'm a classy kinda guy.

2008-01-16 17:08:50

ImJustRickG :

(I mean that in a good way. I'm being serious. I'm also just upping the comment count)

2008-01-16 17:05:48

ImJustRickG :

Nice avatar you're using these days, Swampalicious. The 'walking wang' is pure class.

2008-01-16 17:05:23

swampviking :

ImJustAH8nRickG.

2008-01-16 16:59:09

ImJustRickG :

(I'm just taking the bait, btw)

2008-01-16 16:58:53

ImJustRickG :

See? Art don't know art. That other QOTSA poster is poopy.

2008-01-16 16:58:24

swampviking :

Yinzerz need to lay off of Art. He complemented me on my poster (sorta) so he OBVIOUSLY knows something.

2008-01-16 16:56:33

ImJustRickG :

Ummm... okay: Art Chantry is just a cut-rate Charles Anderson rip-off artist. But he likes my notebooks, so I think it's okay.

2008-01-16 16:54:11

Tabie :

This has nothing to do with the conversation going on here, but this poster rules and fits Guru and Jazzmatazz really well. Nice work.

2008-01-16 15:45:36

deforgeo :

i wish i made "controversial" posters
i could use some comments

2008-01-16 14:38:38

necro :

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

2008-01-16 14:37:11

art chantry :

isn't anybody going to take the bait? man, i thought that last comment would even manage to drag kozik out of retirement.
oh well. you've all disappointed me yet again.
alas.

2008-01-16 14:34:00

art chantry :

yeah, that may be true. i deeply admire his work and think he's amazing. but, let's get this straight - i was doing it first! just ask him.
remember who the original asshole is around here, ok? like i said, i have a hard-earned rep to uphold.

2008-01-16 13:46:26

BlackBall :

Make it blurry and add a rainbow! I always liked CSA, but now that I see Art's gagging on Chuck's knob, I'm rethinking that. This poster is cool.

2008-01-16 13:21:50

art chantry :

fantasygoat -
people were starting to say nice things about me again. i had to put a stop to it. i have a hard-earned reputation to uphold, ya know.

2008-01-16 12:53:03

connor13 :

BabbY fRomed in RadIo?

2008-01-16 12:05:04

ferg2001 :

Lots...i'm truly sorry for them

2008-01-16 12:00:27

JohnHoward :

200

2008-01-16 12:00:06

fantasygoat :

Man, Art sure is cranky.

2008-01-16 11:45:03

JohnHoward :

I'm Jazzy, and I got that flavor Spicy, check out ur behaviour I'm jazzy like dizzy & bird Want this party started? Then give me a word

2008-01-16 11:16:53

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

Caroline Makes the final adjustments in her rear-view mirror she's nervous and tense but she's thinking it over with logic and sense she'll overcome her phobia... oh to paint her eyes so red and her lips so blue carve her legend on the bow - Caroline four-five-two when they come to call for her I will be there too... Observe Radio Silence observe Radio Silence observe Radio Silence maintain Radio Silence thoughout ...Now where can he be? What's wrong with the parking meter? What's happening to me? she'll burst a blood vessel if he doesn't show she's caught up in traffic and I'm on her radio... oh to paint her eyes so red and her lips so blue raise her likeness on the mast - Caroline four-five-two when they come to call for her, I will be there too... She tune in till the tune suits her right she tune in till the dial come alright she tune the dial till the needles-'s in the white tune in tonight tune in tonight tune in tonight... try to think of nothing

2008-01-15 21:03:35

Zach Hobbs :

i want some f'n orange juice fro some reson.

2008-01-15 20:17:28

figbag :

A small-town high school football coach (Ed Harris) befriends an illiterate, developmentally disabled man (Cuba Gooding Jr.) nicknamed "Radio," who has always been the target of jokes and teasing. Although their friendship raises eyebrows at first, Radio's growth under the coach's guidance ultimately inspires the local townsfolk. Based on the true story of the life of James Robert Kennedy.

2008-01-15 20:13:09

scrojo :

i kno ....... it's all about Art not the art.

2008-01-15 20:08:44

john seabury :

It's not about your poster, Scrojo...sorry.

2008-01-15 20:05:55

whiteyhouston :

Capital radio In tune with nothing Don't touch that dial

2008-01-15 19:59:33

dennyschmickle :

I was tuning in the shine on the light night dial Doing anything my radio advised With every one of those late night stations Playing songs bringing tears to my eyes I was seriously thinking about hiding the receiver When the switch broke 'cause it's old They're saying things that I can hardly believe They really think we're getting out of control
(CHORUS) Radio is a sound salvation Radio is cleaning up the nation They say you better listen to the voice of reason But they don't give you any choice 'cause they think that it's treason So you had better do as you are told You better listen to the radio
I wanna bite the hand that feeds me I wanna bite that hand so badly I want to make them wish they'd never seen me
Some of my friends sit around every evening And they worry about the times ahead But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference And the promise of an early bed You either shut up or get cut up, they don't wanna hear about it It's only inches on the reel-to-reel And the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools Tryin' to anaesthetise the way that you feel
(REPEAT CHORUS)
Wonderful radio Marvelous radio Wonderful radio Radio, radio (FADE)

2008-01-15 19:56:43

scrojo :

i literally think it would take longer to read this thread than the time i put into designing the poster.

2008-01-15 19:53:10

sur4dye :

i has this raydio

2008-01-15 19:49:05

skot :

i love scrojo, 195!

2008-01-15 18:41:07

Seamus McClernan :

194.

2008-01-15 18:29:28

ImJustRickG :

193 comments. Wow.

2008-01-15 13:36:45

ROTATOR :

The Emperor has no clothes!

2008-01-15 13:31:38

scrojo :

shhhhhhhh !!!!

2008-01-15 13:16:57

RADAR :

are thee really that many people in aspen to neccesitate posters to promote all of the belly up shows?

2008-01-15 13:15:06

perkins :

I bet Ted Nugent killed him.

2008-01-15 11:21:46

poguemahone :

let's hope you never leave old friend like all good things on you we depend so stick around cos we might miss you when we grow tired of all this visual you had your time, you had the power you've yet to have your finest hour Radio -- Radio

2008-01-15 11:18:21

The Bubble Process :

kurt cobain was murdered. either by this radio or david lee roth.

2008-01-15 10:57:43

B-DROID :

This radio only plays broadcasts of Little Orphan Annie.

2008-01-15 10:37:11

phoondaddy :

This is the radio that told Kurt Cobain to kill himself.

2008-01-15 10:31:52

ricv64 :

is this a Fillmore ?

2008-01-15 10:27:52

John A :

who will hug the sad wet clown?

2008-01-15 10:14:54

poguemahone :

it's theater of the MIND mazn!!!!1

2008-01-15 10:05:45

philaarts.com :

50 aint old.

2008-01-15 10:05:44

B-DROID :

The old timers get pissed, that's what's wrong with it. :Shakes cane:

2008-01-15 09:59:11

whiteyhouston :

if he had hand drawn something with this exact aesthetic would it really have made it a better poster?... it would have looked almost identical, taken 3 times as long and mattered to 10 people. If he was going for the old-timey look, what's wrong with using an old-timey image

2008-01-15 09:57:23

jayryan :

just hold your horses, hombre.

2008-01-15 09:56:56

msaputo :

It seems to me Art would rather insult us then inform us. The guy is what? In his 50s or something, and he sounds more like a 12 year old at times trying to "bait" people into being more "assholish" instead of trying to have a discussion with people. I don't get it.

2008-01-15 09:54:36

jayryan :

i usually do.

2008-01-15 09:54:09

perkins :

Note the knobs.

2008-01-15 09:47:25

jayryan :

okay, i'll jump in:
1) really nice poster. 2) despite nice poster, i sort of wish scrojo had drawn his own radio, as he's pretty much one of the best draftsmen around, and he could make his own vintage-looking radio. 3) still, really nice poster. 4) i see no attacks on CSA at all. in fact, i see only either admiration and curiosity in these comments. 5) i think my friend art should put together a nice long essay or thread about CSA, chuck's time in court, let us know everything there is to know about CSA, so chuck & co. can get more appreciation from a better-informed group of younger-generation designers, most of whom have been influenced in one way or another by his hard work. i would seriously like to have an inside look at CSA's labors over the years. 6) scrojo: always controversial, and usually with nice boobs.

2008-01-15 09:44:01

philaarts.com :

those are fighting words...

2008-01-15 09:38:59

3d glasses :

why does everyone hate the child support agency so much? face up to your responsibilities yeah?

2008-01-15 09:38:18

B-DROID :

I didn't even sign up for their email newsletter and I get it, that's how much I hate them.

2008-01-15 09:34:34

philaarts.com :

billy volek is the future.

2008-01-15 09:32:14

strawberryluna :

i hate CSA so much that i signed up for their email newsletter, that will show them WHO'S WITH ME RIGHT??!!?!

2008-01-15 09:31:17

John A :

wait.... San Diego has a football team? Does the city know this yet?

2008-01-15 09:28:34

B-DROID :

USA USA USA USA!!!!!

2008-01-15 09:20:14

phoondaddy :

"HERE COME THE JUDGE! HERE COME THE JUDGE!"
I still listen to GURU's first album quite a bit.

2008-01-15 09:13:53

swampviking :

We can BUMP! if we want to We can leave your friends behind 'Cause your friends don't BUMP! and if they don't BUMP! Well they're no friends of mine I say, we can go where we want to A place where they will never find And we can act like we come from out of this world Leave the real one far behind And we can BUMP!

2008-01-15 09:11:51

evanmarnoch :

"yer a buncha dumbass fools. you should be kissing his feet."
Christ our Saviour Anderson Design
I can't believe I just read through all this shit. I guess it was mildly entertaining... still fail to see where CSA gets badmouthed at all. PLAY THE VICTIM!

2008-01-15 09:11:29

philaarts.com :

is that the head of the robot from small wonder?

2008-01-15 09:10:53

phoondaddy :

I'll sum it up.
We won the war!

2008-01-15 09:08:14

3d glasses :

can someone sum up please? i really cant be bothered to read all the vomments..
cool poster btw

2008-01-15 09:07:33

scrojo :

careful mayer. i'll get phil rivers to throw a temper tantrum on your ass.

2008-01-15 09:07:09

philaarts.com :

id say 10% of scrojo stuff is good.. about 5% fit the band..
its not easy for him however. he is a bolts fan.

2008-01-15 09:04:14

scrojo :

i've actually only made 5 posters. i just keep recycling elements.

2008-01-15 09:03:00

Iron Canvas Studios :

scrojo makes tons and tons of posters and is consitantly good. This is one is no exception.

2008-01-15 08:58:07

philaarts.com :

scrojo is a divider.

2008-01-15 08:36:52

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

i have NO doubts, that art thanks you zach. hey, at the very least, from all the fluh-boygun typed below, many folks that had NO idea who CSA was, now DO...and maybe, just maybe, will appreciate those that came WAY before them.

2008-01-14 22:21:45

Zach Hobbs :

From Art:
perkins - of course you can. he won't go after a little guy. and the work was "public domain" if you paid for the right by buying the original clip book - which you didn't, i imagine. chuck seeks out the originator and buys the rights or he re-draws. (if you go back and lay one image on top of the other, you might be surprised, by he way.) so, it's obviously impossible to protect. but, then if you steal from his book, you never know which is his drawing, which is copyright free and which is copyrighted by some other deep pocket that he got right to use it from. it's your risk. so, why steal from his book? can't find it anywhere else? or just lazy? it's full of bombs to protect himself from corporate ripoffs. that's all. he doesn't fuck with little guys like us - unless we're doing a poster for old navy or something. use your head.

2008-01-14 22:04:06

danstiles :

Well just to be straight, I love the CSA archive and I think Charles Anderson does great work. I understand they do a ton of work to put the archive together, but I also understand they are grabbing images that are already out there for others to find. So my question still stands. Would they come after someone who used the same source material? Art, do you know the answer to this?

2008-01-14 22:02:38

scrojo :

yep..

2008-01-14 21:29:58

perkins :

A question that never really got answered.

2008-01-14 21:21:47

figbag :

Hey guys, let's get all serious about a gigposter.

2008-01-14 20:37:26

scrojo :

yep.

2008-01-14 20:32:03

msaputo :

Isn't that the question that got us in this mess?

2008-01-14 20:13:25

scrojo :

2008-01-14 19:36:18

Sash :

fact: this is a gigposter

2008-01-14 19:27:36

strawberryluna :

wow. this got extra weird and assumptive.

2008-01-14 18:42:24

dennyschmickle :

Art said BOMB!!!1

2008-01-14 18:22:49

dustin wallace :

thanks, hipoisie

2008-01-14 18:22:09

poguemahone :

it's fascinating what topics set people off on this board.

2008-01-14 18:17:45

steve w :

sounds like someone I should know more about

2008-01-14 18:16:09

art chantry :

"battle" is over. this is more like informational stuff. the dismal dregs of battle.
i'm going home, now. you guys can have this by default, now. ok?

2008-01-14 18:15:27

Iron Canvas Studios :

christ, I leave to go print for a few hours and this weird battle is still going? Why?

2008-01-14 18:14:19

art chantry :

steve -
there are some articles out there. but there is not any real decent overviews or anything. he's a private guy. personally, i think he's maybe the single most important designer of the last quarter-century. but i absolutely refuse to argue that here with this crowd.
i wish someone would do a GOOD book on him. but, the design world doesn't like him much. they really don't understand what he does. i mean, just look at his color sense. that alone is enough to put him in a league of his own. man, he's good.

2008-01-14 18:13:40

art chantry :

sblake -
i was talking about baiting the others on the sight to dig a deeper hole for themselves. that's the trap - to see how far they can go on the rope before the slack runs out. the info i held back was that they really had no idea what csa had been up to or what their intentions were/are. and (two) they didn't seem to know that this wasn't even a csa image. so if i just baited them and got them to get more and more asshole-ish, i could yank the chain (like bela in ed wood) and watch them wriggle a little.
that's all. it's fun. i'd like to be able to do that to huckabee or bush or limbaugh.
there is nothing to stop a "designer" from stealing from chuck - except the risk of getting sued by him if he thinks you were a jerk or ripped off his artwork or didn't like your face. you just never know, do you? that's what stops you. the risk. is it worth it?

2008-01-14 18:09:57

the hipoisie :

in soviet russia, matchbook cliparts you
?

2008-01-14 18:04:06

steve w :

is there any good information about chuck anywhere on the web or in print?

2008-01-14 18:03:26

S.Blake :

This is weird. Not the poster the comments...
1. I don't get the bait comments. Baiting imply's luring. Especially to a hook or trap. What's the trap?
2. What's to stop a "designer" from lifting a CSA image and changing it slightly to make it their own to profit from?
3. I dig this poster. I dig Gifted Unlimited Rhymes Universal! I'd love a new Jazzmatazz album!

2008-01-14 18:02:36

art chantry :

yes, they did. but the bar wasn't set all that high, i think.

2008-01-14 17:59:33

whiteyhouston :

ferg & john tied for equal amounts of HAHA

2008-01-14 17:58:51

phoondaddy :

pragnent!

2008-01-14 17:57:15

John A :

what's an asshole gots ta do to get some raisinettes up in this piece?

2008-01-14 17:55:41

ferg2001 :

art there's something you don't seem to get..look man, They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys. becuse these babby cant frigth back? it was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids. they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his children ; i am truley sorry for your lots.

2008-01-14 17:55:14

art chantry :

rocket science it ain't. you gotta be ready to go the whole course. it's a loser's battle.
i'm very glad chuck took that route, however. he saved all our asses and he did it out of love of this stuff.

2008-01-14 17:44:15

boadicea :

so company A (hardworking designer) puts together old obscure clipart in an easily accessible form, so that company B (the lazy corporation), can have easy access to just swipe a piece of it. company A is setting up its own downfall unless it enforces its claims...

2008-01-14 17:41:50

phoondaddy :

"that was supposed to say "micket", not "micket"."
Defend self babby!

2008-01-14 17:28:32

art chantry :

so, in closing -
all you dumshits who were jumping all over csa in such complete ignorance owe chuck an apology the next time you steal from him. you should really bone up on your background before you jump in with all your self-righteous vilification.

2008-01-14 17:27:45

whippingtom :

Old Disney staffer saying: Dont fuck with the mouse!

2008-01-14 17:23:01

art chantry :

er, that was "mickey".
my typing sux when i do it fast.

2008-01-14 17:19:40

art chantry :

phill -
that was supposed to say "micket", not "micket".

2008-01-14 17:19:15

art chantry :

phill -
micket is a trademark. that has different laws protecting it. NEVER fuck with a trademark outside of first amendment protections - (aka periodical publishing and editorial publsidhing.)
copyright is vague and difficult. basically it boils down to; you can do anything you want. this is america. unless somebody sues you. then you have to protect yourself. can you afford it?
that's the bottom line.

2008-01-14 17:17:41

dennyschmickle :

SHOUTING!!!!

2008-01-14 17:15:12

ferg2001 :

I have a serious question.
HOW IS BABBY FORMEd?

2008-01-14 17:15:04

philaarts.com :

so if a person redraws an image, then its ok.. honestly.. im not trying to cause shit. but if i redraw say mickey mouse.. is that ok?

2008-01-14 17:14:42

ferg2001 :

no disassemble!!!!

2008-01-14 17:14:00

art chantry :

mph -
moron AND asshole. i stand corrected.

2008-01-14 17:13:25

art chantry :

perkins -
of course you can. he won't go after a little guy. and the work was "public domain" if you paid for the right by buying the original clip book - which you didn't, i imagine.
chuck seeks out the originator and buys the rights or he re-draws. (if you go back and lay one image on top of the other, you might be surprised, by he way.)
so, it's obviously impossible to protect. but, then if you steal from his book, you never know which is his drawing, which is copyright free and which is copyrighted by some other deep pocket that he got right to use it from. it's your risk.
so, why steal from his book? can't find it anywhere else? or just lazy?
it's full of bombs to protect himself from corporate ripoffs. that's all. he doesn't fuck with little guys like us - unless we're doing a poster for old navy or something.
use your head.

2008-01-14 17:12:38

M.P.H. Design :

art- i'd tell you you're a ego maniac and an asshole, but that doesn't seem to bother you. get over yourself. you photocopied a couple images back in the 80's and 90's for rock posters and you think you're god. seriously, get over yourself. its very unflattering. I'm out. have to get back to work.

2008-01-14 17:12:25

M.P.H. Design :

2008-01-14 17:11:15

ferg2001 :

whatever fpur eyes

2008-01-14 17:07:57

perkins :

On a very basic level, here's the problem I have: Years ago, I researched tons of clip art in the public library in order to build a resource file for freelance design work. In the process, I discovered several books that contained copyright-free images that I had also seen in CSA's catalogue. Some of them appeared to be EXACTLY the same, not even redrawn. So there's the dilemma...Why can't I use those images? One book says public domain, but CSA's catalogue says they're copyrighted, through the method I quoted from their catalogue earlier. I'm not hatin' on CSA, I'd just like someone to explain why I can't use some of those images.

2008-01-14 17:06:40

art chantry :

mph -
moron.

2008-01-14 17:05:35

art chantry :

deforgeo -
i calls 'em as i sees 'em.

2008-01-14 17:04:35

steve w :

what deforgeo said.

2008-01-14 17:03:02

deforgeo :

"chuck understands authorship. he seeks out the originators of the drawings and buys rights to it directly from the artists and then pays them royalties."
That's pretty cool, and very impressive.
(I also think that's the answer a lot of people here were looking for in the first place, except maybe without the "assholes/dumbass fools" stuff.)

2008-01-14 17:01:00

M.P.H. Design :

"God, is that you?"

2008-01-14 16:59:24

dennyschmickle :

That radio looks like a face.

2008-01-14 16:58:50

art chantry :

chuck understands authorship. he seeks out the originators of the drawings and buys rights to it directly from the artists and then pays them royalties. that's a lot more than any of you fuckers ever have when you steal from his book, right?
chuck only sues corporate entities that rip him off. he also REDRAWS every single item in the book. he has copyrighted 'bombs' in there to catch people - 25% of the book is copyrighted by someone else he protects or he OUTRIGHT DREW the images himself. also you don't know what is what.
and he's never mad a dime of the project. he does it top protect the aryists he helped rediscover and salvidge
yer a buncha self righteous assholes who have no idea who or what you guys are talking about. chuck spend 9 YEARS in court protecting his right to his style from being violated by corporate monsters (and protecting us all in the process, creating prededent.). he won, but had to give up his work and lose his style to do it.
christ, the man is a hero to all of us and you guys don't even know because he doesn't publicize his efforts.
yer a buncha dumbass fools. you should be kissing his feet.

2008-01-14 16:57:39

M.P.H. Design :

and we all know who the arrogant "little prick" is...

2008-01-14 16:56:13

Zach Hobbs :

LOL.

2008-01-14 16:55:18

Zach Hobbs :

speak for yourself.

2008-01-14 16:55:09

M.P.H. Design :

You know what they say about people overgrown egos... small penis

2008-01-14 16:53:43

perkins :

I actually think CSA has set a fine example of rights usage that everyone can easily follow: Simply change it a little, stick a flag in it and call it yours. As much as I might criticize the process that (I perceive) was used to appropriate all of those previously public domain images, I admit I'm extremely admirable of them as a design firm.

2008-01-14 16:50:20

scrojo :

"The real world doesn't care."
f*ck! i was just about to say 100posts without goodtimes had to be a record.

2008-01-14 16:46:39

art chantry :

ah yes! THANK YOU, richie!
at last some common sense.

2008-01-14 16:45:23

RichieGoodtimes :

The real world doesn't care.

2008-01-14 16:44:53

deforgeo :

"deforgeo - then why are YOU posting in this thread at all? "
I was curious as to the details of CSA's process of finding and reusing images, but I've pretty much lost interest now. So - so I'll go back to reading comic books, I guess?

2008-01-14 16:44:15

art chantry :

hynes -
yeah, the funniest par is that there's really nothing about this image at all that looks like csa work. but, i figgered any idiot dumb enough to attcak "veer' (a company csa markets some stuff through) isn't worth getting into it with.
this isn't even csa work, dumbasses.

2008-01-14 16:41:06

ricv64 :

dude I have one too , it still works

2008-01-14 16:40:56

dustin wallace :

will someone make a yakov smirnoff joke about this poster already?

2008-01-14 16:40:35

dennyschmickle :

WTF? that's MY radio!

2008-01-14 16:38:50

HYNES :

I only made my comments because i was kind of shocked scrojo would use a piece of clipart from a popular, ubiquitous source like veer. Turns out he didnt. If pointing out that veer apropriates images or using the term 'designers' in commas for people retracing old ad illustrations is derogatory, well so be it. No matter what way you slice theres a stigma surrounding clip art usage on this site and no matter what source it comes from when people are disscussing it the general tone will always be slightly negative towards it. As far as Veer/CSA goes - its an awesome resource if youre into that sort of thing. Your choice.

2008-01-14 16:38:48

art chantry :

deforgeo -
then why are YOU posting in this thread at all?
i'm posting in this thread because i saw a bunch of ignorant assholes attacking an man and a business and an aesthetic endeavor i deeply admire and thought i'd jump in and shout BULLSHIT!
beyond that, i see no overwhelming need to do anything at all.
except bait you dumbshits, that is.
it's fun.

2008-01-14 16:36:35

scrojo :

art. i have yet to state an opinion let alone build an arguement. you said nobody had anything nice to say about csa. i was just pointing out that there had been. nothing more, nothing less.

2008-01-14 16:36:32

steve w :

the second time IN THIS THREAD

2008-01-14 16:33:21

deforgeo :

Then why post in this thread at all? I always enjoy reading your posts that lend some insight in design or poster history, and I'm not really a fan of message board flame wars or pile-ons either. But if you don't want to actually talk about CSA, it seems weird to keep coming back to this thread to say everybody's *wrong* about CSA (when I got the impression that most people here didn't really have an opinion *either way* about CSA.)

2008-01-14 16:32:59

John A :

who called you an idiot? 'those people' are all assholes... all of 'them'.

2008-01-14 16:32:55

art chantry :

that's the SECOND time that asshole called me an idiot.

2008-01-14 16:31:54

John A :

*stands on chair "I just got beat in a game of wits by an IDIOT!!"

2008-01-14 16:31:00

art chantry :

scrojo -
and manson is jesus. and jesus is love.
so, he's a good guy, right?
you go take line items out of context and expect to build an argument, you end up with tiny little shreds of junk. sorry, your argument doesn't hold any water. the tone of the thread is strictly ant-csa no matter what kind of little pull quotes you edit out.

2008-01-14 16:30:02

steve w :

HI STEVE!!!

2008-01-14 16:29:22

scrojo :

ART* "try to find where they said anything kind about csa at all"
well...... " is smart enough to have the cool archives they have had for many years" -get a clue design
"Personally I think their stuff is awesome" -zach hobbs
"...a fun resource"-get a clue design
"I just got that MexiLore email. Too funny. Nice images however" -zach hobbs

2008-01-14 16:27:49

art chantry :

but it IS fun baiting you fools...

2008-01-14 16:27:36

art chantry :

there's nothing i can say that wouldn't be treated exactly like my posts always get treated. so, why bother with you guys? give me a real reason, eh?

2008-01-14 16:27:02

art chantry :

my last remark was a response to defargo's post.

2008-01-14 16:25:46

art chantry :

well, i would. they're so fucking ignorant of what chuck is doing that it's stupid.
and that's not an opinion.

2008-01-14 16:25:15

boadicea :

most of us don't have time to read this whole thread. scrojo made another cool poster. perkins made some very astute observations that would make sense to anyone who saw this thread. chantry comes on here with no proof in writing and says everyone is wrong except him, and seems to have a very belligerent defensive attitude about it. what else did we miss?

2008-01-14 16:25:05

MaximumFluoride :

I think I'll stick with drawing most of what I need to avoid these types of situations.

2008-01-14 16:24:53

deforgeo :

Art, I'm not sure if I'd characterize posts like these as "knee jerk" or inflammatory:
"Personally I think their stuff is awesome, just don't know how it actually gets used in the real world. "
"csa is smart enough to have the cool archives they have had for many years(any company that has plastic toys is great), that rates as good, but we were all asking about the process of owning images that were simply found in the public to begin with."
I think people were just genuinely interested in what CSA's process was. I'd kind of like to know now, too.

2008-01-14 16:24:03

phoondaddy :

Artzheimers Disease

2008-01-14 16:23:31

art chantry :

michael -
ok ok. so shutup all ready. geez.

2008-01-14 16:20:47

Michael Apparatus :

Jeeeez! I'm not! From what I read so far it just didn't seem like people were being outright negative about CSA. But again...I probably missed a bunch of stuff.
We met Chuck via HAZE when we first moved here to Minneapolis. Seems like a great guy and has done amazing stuff.

2008-01-14 16:19:44

art chantry :

where's frank? or phillarts?

2008-01-14 16:18:57

art chantry :

so, i rest my case. you can't can' "discuss" shit. nada, zilch.
HI ART!
bacon!!

2008-01-14 16:17:31

goad74 :

One. And that Art Chantry was cooking bacon slices before you were even born.
Spot the difference?

2008-01-14 16:16:05

phoondaddy :

Art = Broomstick GP = Hornets nest.
I love it, he plays this place like a fiddle when he's bored at the Senior Center.

2008-01-14 16:15:55

Punchgut :

how many?

2008-01-14 16:15:09

Zach Hobbs :

The best quote was Hynes: I'll "Veer" away from this one.
Brilliant.

2008-01-14 16:14:56

art chantry :

HI ART!

2008-01-14 16:14:22

art chantry :

michael -
try to find where they said anything kind about csa at all.
c'mon michael, stay off this bandwagon, please. if you want to duke it out with me, pick something other than chuck. ok?

2008-01-14 16:13:59

goad74 :

How many Art Chantry's does it take to cook a slice of bacon?

2008-01-14 16:12:47

phoondaddy :

Arthole

2008-01-14 16:11:35

Michael Apparatus :

I can't find where anyone really said anything horrible about CSA. I probably missed something. (again)

2008-01-14 16:11:18

John A :

I just chuckled and pulled those five Winstons over to my side of table.

2008-01-14 16:11:08

art chantry :

i suppose you're calling me an idiot now? geez. and asshole just called me an idiot. excellent!

2008-01-14 16:10:18

steve w :

that must've taken the fun out of winning for you, john

2008-01-14 16:09:47

John A :

I once saw a very wise man get beat in a game of chess and stand on his chair and proclaim "I just got beat by an idiot!"

2008-01-14 16:08:08

swampviking :

HI ART!

2008-01-14 16:07:35

ricv64 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4ddG-Q_j8

2008-01-14 16:07:35

art chantry :

exactly.

2008-01-14 16:07:10

John A :

EVERYONE IS AN ASSHOLE EXCEPT ME!!!!

2008-01-14 16:06:08

art chantry :

msaputo -
actually, i don't think that at all. in fact if you go back and actually read what i wrote, i didn't say that at all. i merely pointed out the obvious - in fact, exactly what has happened since i posted my defense of chuck. everybody posting in this thread is all attitude and self-righteous opinion and no knowledge. so fuck ya. why try to chat with that shit?
you guys don't have a clue. you really don't. but, don't let that stop from mouthing off. hell, it's your life, right? be a fool. it's OK!
so, msaputo, it's not that i think you guys aren't up to it. it's that i think your guys are assholes. that's VERY different. understand?
sorry. nothing personal.

2008-01-14 16:01:55

strawberryluna :

my comment wasn't a slam...i really meant it in the best way, CSA is co-opting the best of co-opters, it's kinda of weird. it makes me feel like i am in a huge hall of mirrors in my mind.
Fisher/Andy, CSA does have a GIANT clip library that they develop and license, but they are also (and originally) a design agency - Charles S. Anderson Design - http://csadesign.com/ Love 'em or hate, they're hugemongous.

2008-01-14 16:00:57

Punchgut :

shadow boxing

2008-01-14 15:59:08

steve w :

I'm an ignorant piss-weevil

2008-01-14 15:59:07

msaputo :

Apparently Art thinks that we don't have the capacity to understand the complexity of a Clip Art Company.
You know, cause we're all ignorant pissants.

2008-01-14 15:53:32

art chantry :

isn't it about time for a bacon joke?

2008-01-14 15:51:00

ricv64 :

so is this a telefucken ?

2008-01-14 15:49:41

phoondaddy :

Come back weds Art!

2008-01-14 15:48:46

phoondaddy :

Only old codgers know what shinola is. FAce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-01-14 15:47:57

andydiesel :

I was wondering the same thing too Mike.

2008-01-14 15:47:56

andydiesel :

i am confused about what you people are fighting.

2008-01-14 15:47:36

MaximumFluoride :

What is CSA? Never heard of it until today. Clip art company?

2008-01-14 15:47:04

andydiesel :

I 100% could tell the difference between shit and shinola.
I am sure of this.

2008-01-14 15:46:57

art chantry :

you jokers don't know shit from shinola.

2008-01-14 15:45:01

dennyschmickle :

"THE ONLY STOCK ART AND PHOTOGRAPHY COLLECTION EVER TO BE INCLUDED IN THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION'S COOPER-HEWITT NATIONAL DESIGN MUSEUM TRIENNIAL."
haw.

2008-01-14 15:43:02

scrojo :

"i will never understand it when folks think that intelligent discussion can't happen here. that's sillybuns."
rules.

2008-01-14 15:42:23

strawberryluna :

when i just opened up my CSA MexiLore email i thought, "whoa! they're onto Chantry!" true story. and now i see these comments for the first time. as an aside, i will never understand it when folks think that intelligent discussion can't happen here. that's sillybuns. if you're not in the mood, that's one thing, but saying it's impossible just ain't true.

2008-01-14 15:39:06

scrojo :

i've already met connie. i prefer to get the disappointing out of the way early.

2008-01-14 15:37:55

John A :

Connie is my hero.

2008-01-14 15:31:31

steve w :

sorry, uglybogus

2008-01-14 15:28:30

Zach Hobbs :

I just got that MexiLore email. Too funny. Nice images however.

2008-01-14 15:24:26

uglybogus :

"These comments remind me that I hope I never meet any of my heroes. I feel I would be heartbroken."
You would, I went to a lecture once and was reallllly disappointed. Not saying who, jus' sayin', talk about a let down.

2008-01-14 15:16:57

printmafia-connie :

These comments remind me that I hope I never meet any of my heroes. I feel I would be heartbroken.

2008-01-14 15:09:55

msaputo :

No one can understand the complexity of CSA.
Please.

2008-01-14 15:00:44

Pedini :

as if on cue, I just received an email from CSA about their mexlore images

2008-01-14 14:43:21

danstiles :

I've always wondered if CSA would come after someone who found and used the same source material that they did. I sort of doubt it, I don't think thats Chuck's trip.

2008-01-14 14:25:57

art chantry :

get a clue design -
that's cool. i'm glad you are not set to fight. however, others are. so, i opt out.

2008-01-14 13:56:29

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

big fan of csa for 17 years, from when slacks cologne package was purchased as a gift, to now. i think most comments were simply looking for answers...say, from folks that know him as "chuck", not charles. not all on these posts are all set to fight mr, chantry. i'm too old for that crap.

2008-01-14 13:48:29

Pedini :

seems like an excellent opportunity for those "in the know" to impart useful info on all of the detail-deprived, unless the former are as blissfully ignorant as the latter, which is my guess

2008-01-14 13:30:14

perkins :

"That my team! *sniff* That's my quarterback!"

2008-01-14 13:26:07

John A :

Mons Venus?

2008-01-14 13:22:46

phoondaddy :

Come back weds Art.

2008-01-14 13:20:17

evanmarnoch :

IT'S TOO IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT HERE!
Jeebus.

2008-01-14 13:18:42

imatruck :

DO IT

2008-01-14 13:12:10

poguemahone :

someone's got a case of the mons.
that means mondays for any noobs.

2008-01-14 13:08:31

art chantry :

scrojo -
these forums are too stupid and fucked up to actually get into anything involving complexity or details, so i'm not going into anything here. sorry "friends". besides you guys have made up your minds and are set to fight. so, forget it.
all it need to say (again) is the obvious - you don't know jack about csa. nuttin. all you clowns have is stupid knee jerk self-righteousness based on zero information.
so, sorry scrojo. i'm not gonna do it here.

2008-01-14 13:05:58

perkins :

From the CSA Product Catalog: "After years of research - scouring everything from matchbooks to cocktail napkins - we amassed the largest collection of historic advertising art from the 1920's through the 60's. Then the real work began. We selected images with design or illustration merit, altered and improved them and added many original illustrations. The result, is the CSA Archive, a diverse collection containing hundreds of thousands of copyrighted line art illustrations."
Which part of this did I misinterpret?

2008-01-14 13:02:53

scrojo :

hey art. i'm honestly curious to get your input this. like i stated before i got my copy from a jpeg scan of the original. i had no idea the csa version existed. but looking at them now they almost seem like exact duplicates ( with the exception of one background color ).

2008-01-14 13:02:00

phoondaddy :

flow no one.

2008-01-14 12:56:17

art chantry :

jes' the facks, jack. i really don't need to say any more about it.

2008-01-14 12:55:08

ferg2001 :

claim down

2008-01-14 12:49:05

phoondaddy :

Hi Art!

2008-01-14 12:48:37

art chantry :

man, you guys have absolutely zero idea about what you're talking about. zero. i suggest you do a little more research into the facts and reality of what chuck (csa) has done before you draw off of your really ignorant preconceptions and observations. you sound like fools. no joke.

2008-01-14 12:43:29

perkins :

Saved from obscurity or staked a claim to them so no one can use them? You can still find the original source images in books in the library that proclaim them to be copyright-free. Seems like a crafty move...I can admire that, even if it is a bit snakey. Doesn't mean I can't call bullshit on it. It IS a fantastic collection, that's for sure.
This is a great poster.

2008-01-13 20:22:55

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

you made the original match book image your own & in doing so made a cool image. kinda ironic that that process sounds kinda familiar... csa shouldn't be blamed for starting a collection that quite likely has saved images from obscurity. i wouldn't let this rare chance keep you away from a fun resource for creatives scrojo.

2008-01-13 19:21:51

scrojo :

ok. just to be clear. this is IN their collection but it isn't FROM their collection.
it sounds like CSA has a bunch of cool imagery but i doubt i'll ever check it out now. seems just like an invite to confusion over image origin.

2008-01-13 18:49:04

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

i'm pretty sure every designer/artist has done that very thing at one point or another in their career. i guess if one finds it morally wrong, don't use their awesome collection. ever. for anything.

2008-01-13 18:42:36

perkins :

That's pretty much how the CSA Archive was created: Take a public domain image, trace it, change it ever so slightly and call it yours.

2008-01-13 18:15:41

Zach Hobbs :

Personally I think their stuff is awesome, just don't know how it actually gets used in the real world. There are some great posters on this site that use an illustration that exists in their archive, although in a different form.

2008-01-13 18:09:14

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

csa is smart enough to have the cool archives they have had for many years(any company that has plastic toys is great), that rates as good, but we were all asking about the process of owning images that were simply found in the public to begin with.

2008-01-13 17:57:46

scrojo :

don't kno them and never used their archives so i can't say anything good or bad about them.

2008-01-12 12:49:11

art chantry :

csa are good folks. they aren't what you guys think at all. quit guessing and start finding out.

2008-01-12 12:39:47

Zach Hobbs :

Totally. but they make you "Agree" to their terms before you can even search the archive

2008-01-11 21:12:12

perkins :

Like any of CSA's images are original anyway.

2008-01-11 21:07:58

Zach Hobbs :

Funny thing is I hardly ever see any of their images in any actual designs. By other people I mean...

2008-01-11 21:06:00

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

good question. public domain does seem more fitting. how does a company "own" an item that can be found elsewhere? maybe it's a KGB cover up.

2008-01-11 20:19:10

scrojo :

too funny. never saw the veer version before. never even knew veer existed till now. i found the image thru the "reference" thread here on GP. it was a straight up soviet matchbook. i used the stamp tool in PS in a few places to extract the original text while separating the colors for vector transfer.
so i'm confused how Veer can say this is "rights managed"....... a 45-55year old design from the soviet union ( an entity that no longer exists ). ???

2008-01-11 20:15:01

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

LONG LIVE DOVER PUBLICATIONS!

2008-01-11 20:00:06

alP :

That is one poorly designed toaster. Where do you put the bread?

2008-01-11 19:49:07

HYNES :

true, but its got to suck when you find out veer's copped it already. Gotta know your source is probably good if your going to do it.

2008-01-11 19:38:56

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

well the cool thing is, we can all find old items that speak to us and create our own archive, match books and all. i would imagine that's how charles anderson started. flea markets beware!

2008-01-11 19:36:39

HYNES :

Apparently they have a team of 'designers' paid to just scour books and magazines for imagery to trace and sell as clipart. They do seem to have stylistic/era-based preference for certain images though - probably due to getting around copyright laws and that 50 year rule or whatever it is.

2008-01-11 19:29:07

Zach Hobbs :

god knows CSA is set on world clip art domination. sad...

2008-01-11 19:21:50

HYNES :

That was my point - i thought it was clipart from veer. Scrojo says his source was the original, probably like the veer vesrion was.

2008-01-11 19:15:53

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

veer has a contract with CSA Archive to sell their licensed stock art...once purchased, i say have at it.

2008-01-11 19:11:17

HYNES :

edit - yeah theres some differences alright.

2008-01-11 19:09:15

HYNES :

fair enough - i just remember seeing it here, and it's exactly the same:
http://www.veer.com/products/detail.aspx?image=CNI0753702
Not like Veer doesnt appropriate images or anything they probably have the same match book book.

2008-01-11 19:07:50

scrojo :

original image grabbed off a soviet match book.... colors separated..... converted to vector individually.... re-grouped in illustrator based on original....type placed in illustrator..... type pulled individually.... converted to lo-res jpegs... converted back to vector...... re-placed in design.
so...... there you go.

2008-01-11 18:29:23

Zach Hobbs :

yeah this rules

2008-01-11 18:19:42

slater :

i like this illustration style.

2008-01-11 18:12:34

whiteyhouston :

I can dig it...

2008-01-11 17:22:36

John A :

very not.