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silenceisconsent : |
I love that print mafia is not afraid to print whatever they want. I applaud any none-pussy, no matter the content or their stance on it. |
2008-09-24 17:59:57 |
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jjwebste : |
This offends me! (the right arm is in the way) |
2008-07-11 14:23:18 |
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mini me : |
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interesting comments |
2007-08-20 00:20:45 |
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scrojo : |
do you have pictures murph ? |
2007-06-22 15:47:34 |
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MURPHY : |
I luv Jim and Connie |
2007-06-22 15:45:18 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
You really shouldn't be very surprised. |
2007-06-14 19:02:23 |
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psykosteve : |
This poster is great.
I am kind of surprised to see so much debate over something that is clearly ART on this of all sites. |
2007-06-14 18:43:13 |
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marmite : |
aaaaaaaagh!! |
2007-06-14 16:08:28 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
I have a lot of thoughts on how different groups of people are exploited in our society. And while I fully understand and sympathize with how women in general are stereotyped.... I don't think they are the only victims. Far from it. Each section of society get fucked over in thier different ways. It's all a matter of how you decide to see yourself in this world as opposed to how you will let the world see you. |
2007-06-13 00:51:21 |
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piemel : |
the world is more interesting with people like connie and the pm gang
the others are boring... safe and boring no matter how many words they use
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2007-06-12 23:55:54 |
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strawberryluna : |
And just like that, KONG has returned to us. WB JAWN EH. |
2007-06-12 15:16:59 |
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John A : |
nice tits. |
2007-06-12 14:36:18 |
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gordo55 : |
Good year to finally get a PM sub! |
2007-06-12 12:44:20 |
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perkins : |
Deeper into the rectum of the poster police |
2007-06-12 12:27:54 |
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kozik : |
RULES.
Print Mafia just keeps g0ing deeper. FUCKING AWESOME |
2007-06-12 12:26:29 |
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HolyCrapstick : |
Is this poster Family Friendly? |
2007-06-12 11:55:16 |
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Steve Chanks : |
140!?!?!?!
140?!?!?!?
One
Hundred
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Forty? |
2007-06-12 07:58:42 |
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bopst : |
distrubingly perfect... |
2007-06-11 17:42:15 |
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El Negro Magnifico! : |
I fail to see your point, Paul. Anyone who knows of Tegan and Sara is aware of their unabashed cuteness, and I'm saying this in all seriousness. I won't debate that poster with you here, PM me if you're interested. |
2007-06-11 12:48:49 |
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PaulGardner : |
http://www.gigposters.com/poster/55735_Tegan_And_Sara.html |
2007-06-11 12:38:13 |
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Robbie Fuct : |
PaulGardner - "The cutesy posters you guys do fail misreably in my opinion." do you think about what you say? how do their posters fail miserably? do they not advertise a show? i dont think ive seen a PM poster that has failed to fit the band. |
2007-06-11 02:18:47 |
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Meeloo : |
My comment was not especially directed to you.
I just wanted to point out that this posters is not using an erotic/pleasant imagery (like in a lot of the low brow aesthetic) but a shocking one.
It is not meant to please or satisfy the audience fantasy. It is meant to be offensive, disturbing.
It s about border lines, taboos and freedom of speech.
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2007-06-10 15:06:02 |
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MrBlonde7 : |
But srsly, my comment was an offshoot of what Elyse was saying, and what Fisher responded to. |
2007-06-10 14:16:34 |
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MrBlonde7 : |
Meloo, I agree with you.
I do need to see a specialist.
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2007-06-10 14:15:42 |
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whiteyhouston : |
so... wait... what happened to Flanderz? |
2007-06-10 12:47:20 |
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Meeloo : |
Shock value... this poster has nothing to do with the "women as sex object" debate. If you see it as a visual erotic stimulation, I guess you should consult a specialist. |
2007-06-10 12:29:58 |
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ajosephb : |
My coffee is lukewarm. |
2007-06-10 12:14:06 |
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Meeloo : |
From Wikepedia :
Épater la bourgeoisie or épater le bourgeois is a French phrase that became a rallying cry for the French Decadent poets of the late 19th century including Baudelaire and Rimbaud. It means to shock the middle-classes or to shock the middle-class respectively.
The Decadent artists as well as the Aesthetes in England, such as Oscar Wilde, sought to shock and dazzle the dull middle class. This celebration of "unhealthy" and "unnatural" devotion to life, art and excess has been a continuing cultural theme. Writers, musicians and celebrities as diverse as Charles Bukowski, Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso, Marilyn Manson, David Bowie, Diane Arbus, and Cindy Sherman have tried to challenge cultural mores and pretensions.
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2007-06-10 12:11:35 |
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MrBlonde7 : |
Werd. I guess I mean regularly. I am glad this poster was made. If for no other reason(which isn't true, I very much enjoy how this disturbs me to my bones), the fact that it spurned some lively banter. |
2007-06-10 12:01:49 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
"Why the hell can't guys take this question seriously? "
Seems like we have had plenty of serious discussion in this thread. |
2007-06-10 11:57:33 |
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MrBlonde7 : |
You know, I tried having the "women as sex objects" once at Expresso Beans. Most were dooshbags and did not reply, or attempted to leave some sorry excuse for a quip, instead of actually responding to my question. The only artist I was able to get to take me seriously was Stainboy, one whose posters arguably objectify women constantly. He made his case against that, and I felt he did a good job doing so.
Why the hell can't guys take this question seriously? Even for "low brow" corners of the art world, this is an issue. Over the years, artists like Gentileschi, Chicago, Claudel, and countless other females fought against the aesthetic of objectification, even within and through imagery that could be construed as objectifying. Is this what females within the poster world do? Who knows. Maybe yes, maybe no, maybe people just post tits and ass because that's what sells rock posters. Still, I find it a legimate question considering the fact that A) there are women artists on the GP board that I highly respect and consider 'empowered,' Looba being an example of that, and B) some of them produce the 'classically objectifying(or at least perceived objectification)' posters that one would think these women would rally against.
Considering that I am a male poster collector/ameture artist amongst peers that seem to be mostly male(how many GP threads have pictures of semi-nude broads and sexist/objectifying comments?), I wonder what other males and females have to say about these sorts of matters, and what reasons there are for them to not be addressed.
Paul, you really are a dick. Do you know what tact is? I think not. Drink a bleach milkshake. |
2007-06-10 11:51:40 |
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Hrabovsky : |
For whatever reason, it engages the viewer and evokes something from everyone who sees it--be it good or bad. And that is the difference between art and dumb. |
2007-06-10 11:26:29 |
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perkins : |
What makes a great poster is a great image, however it be begotten. |
2007-06-10 10:09:35 |
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Iron Canvas Studios : |
I agree, keep doing what you're doing, you rule and will continue to rule. This poster does it job, and does it job well! |
2007-06-10 03:41:08 |
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VonDada : |
I think the problem people are having with the image is that she is nude. If she had a shirt on, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Because in America (especially here in Hollywood) violence is okay, nudity isn't and nudity and violence approaches taboo.
It's a great poster. Impactfully makes you look at it. PM, keep doing what you're doing cuz it rocks. |
2007-06-10 01:59:42 |
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Jeph : |
What'ya think the thread count on those sheets is? |
2007-06-09 23:24:05 |
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connor13 : |
ROMG luna's a GIRL? |
2007-06-09 23:02:02 |
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perkins : |
I think it would be hilarious if it said "Propecia" instead of Unsane |
2007-06-09 18:26:36 |
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strawberryluna : |
What's this? Hair Tonic? All the better to choke out DenDen. omg! |
2007-06-09 17:11:21 |
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dennyschmickle : |
NO DOY LUNER.
(I mean, yes... I totally agree with your well stated and insightful point of view.) |
2007-06-09 16:20:22 |
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strawberryluna : |
i'm really glad that both elyse and connie posted a thoughtful and well written comments. i think it's really important to discuss these things, (these things being context, violence, and whatever's not bacon) and rarely does it seem to occur on this site of late. which is a true shame since a lot of what drew me here was intelligent talk, banter or of course, excellent sarcasm.
this is one of the strongest cases of context's relevance i've ever seen. this image upsets me , but does not offend me, and i'd be remiss if didn't say that most of the reason that i am not being offended is because i know who did the work on this poster. and knowing that connie is not a misogynist bastard goes a long way here.
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2007-06-09 16:14:41 |
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perkins : |
Who the hell would be offended by an image of Bigfoot choking out Seka anyway. |
2007-06-09 16:02:21 |
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steve w : |
"I notice Paul Gardner has nothing to say."
thanks connie |
2007-06-09 15:11:54 |
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swampviking : |
I like this poster and I like Print Mafia. FUXXXX the h8rz. |
2007-06-09 14:57:29 |
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perkins : |
Paul Gardner is one stupid motherfucker. How's that for semi-abrasive?
I love this poster...no way could I be offended by an image so obviously (and perfectly) campy. |
2007-06-09 14:51:03 |
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philaarts.com : |
" the fact that so many ppl are talking about this cements its status as a successful poster."
brendan jordan posters would nullify this theory. |
2007-06-09 14:27:34 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
Paul Gardner talking about " How far I've made it" is pretty funny. |
2007-06-09 14:25:08 |
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Varg : |
the fact that so many ppl are talking about this cements its status as a successful poster. |
2007-06-09 14:21:24 |
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PaulGardner : |
Well it's a good thing your people now know what's up, richie. |
2007-06-09 14:11:36 |
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PaulGardner : |
Realize richie is silly, and clearly knows his audience is always watching. like a chorus.
Richie, I thought you already wrote me off. WTF dude! |
2007-06-09 14:08:09 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Realize that most people don't spend all day looking at this website.
Realize that Gigposters.com is not your intended audience for your poster artwork.
Do your best for the band and their fans.
Realize that Paul Gardner is not your audience and Paul Gardner does not understand your audience and Paul Gardner never will understand your audience. Unfortunately Paul Gardner will never understand any of this, thus he will keep talking. |
2007-06-09 14:01:37 |
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PaulGardner : |
Maximum- Well this is how I see it. That's what came to my head so that's what came out. Plain and simple and honest. If you don't like it, don't ask. If you can't handle a semi-abbrasive comment, I don't know how you've made it this far. I said somehitng good, and something bad. So that should even things out. |
2007-06-09 13:59:41 |
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msaputo : |
Agreed. Not only that, if I passed this on the street, I would most definitely stop.
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2007-06-09 13:55:57 |
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ferg2001 : |
honest dick |
2007-06-09 13:54:38 |
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El Negro Magnifico! : |
"...but for me I always try to make a poster that reflects the band and it's vibe."
And that's the bottom line. This one does it's job. |
2007-06-09 13:53:46 |
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msaputo : |
By that logic, if you only have 5 posters, then they all MUST be good, right? |
2007-06-09 13:53:44 |
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msaputo : |
"the more i think about this, i'd like to see an Unsane poster 180 degrees removed from the 'blood/guts/violence' motif. sometimes the unexpected can be really nice."
There is truth to that statement, but for me I always try to make a poster that reflects the band and it's vibe. Most importantly, I want them to dig it....to me that's the most important thing...but also try and put in a little of my style in the mix.
There's no way in hell I was going to personally deliver the band a poster with pink baby bunnies and butterflies.
I understand that it can get really monotonous, especially when doing a poster series that all wind up looking very similar. But if the band is happy then I say let there be monotony. |
2007-06-09 13:52:06 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
"You guys design sooo many posters that the apparetly "good" ones are few and far between"
While that may be honest it is still a dickish thing to say. It's not always what a person says but, more how they say it that makes a person a dick. |
2007-06-09 13:43:59 |
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PaulGardner : |
honest sometimes = dick. |
2007-06-09 13:39:21 |
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Varg : |
the more i think about this, i'd like to see an Unsane poster 180 degrees removed from the 'blood/guts/violence' motif. sometimes the unexpected can be really nice. |
2007-06-09 13:23:02 |
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Varg : |
add this to the discussion: most of the images on the covers of Unsane's records are entirely staged. i believe the only exception is their s/t album on matador; that may be an actual death image. i'd like to applaud connie for using a 'fantasy' image here, as well, since that fits closer to the bands' aesthetic in my opinion. also, this poster is a lot more interesting than the majority of Unsane posters on this site. not saying they are bad, but by and large they are the same poster. |
2007-06-09 13:18:52 |
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PaulGardner : |
You did a good job here Connie... I say stick to shock value. The cutesy posters you guys do fail misreably in my opinion. I said what I needed to say about this poster before. that's it. You guys design sooo many posters that the apparetly "good" ones are few and far between. |
2007-06-09 12:07:07 |
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john seabury : |
...I also like sex and violence in the media, it keeps me from going out and doing the real thing. |
2007-06-09 12:01:09 |
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100degrees : |
i'd like to hear more about the print itself... how many in the edition, size, etc... |
2007-06-09 12:00:38 |
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john seabury : |
Very good design/cropping of the photo.Nice work, kids. |
2007-06-09 11:58:38 |
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sur4dye : |
looks like robin williams arms. that or sarah silverman... |
2007-06-09 11:29:55 |
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uglybogus : |
i agree with hypo.
" Ironically, violence against The Wolf Man is a completely acceptable form of entertainment for non-wolves. " |
2007-06-09 11:00:22 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
Oh, and Good response Connie. It's cool hearing a little about the thinking behind your work. |
2007-06-09 10:25:26 |
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