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DESIGNER:
Jaw  
VENUE:
Empty Glass
Charleston
WV
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Jaw  
2002-07-28 09:55:24
 
BANDS:
Pistol Whippers
American Plague



Pistol Whippers Poster - Empty Glass, Charleston - Jaw



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printmafia-connieSend printmafia-connie a message :   :-D Scrojo- I'm glad it got resolved. You guys should check out his band's site and give a listen to his music. Very good stuff.   2002-08-04 22:17:18
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   printmafia2* jaw is a very 'stand-up guy'. i was very impressed that he emailed me so we could resolve this . he literally took the flyer off a telephone pole and had not ment for himself to be listed as 'designer'.   2002-08-04 21:58:01
printmafia-connieSend printmafia-connie a message :   Hey fellas,
Jaw is a VERY good friend of ours. His band is The American Plague that is listed on the poster. This must have been a mispost. He's a stand up guy and we'd vouch for him any day.
  2002-08-04 21:40:54
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   hey kids* i just got an email from 'jaw'. he was part of the openning act (american plague) and had nothing to do w/ the production/printing of the flyer. i think part of the confusion was that he mis-posted these (w/ himself as the 'designer'). i've let him kno that i have no ill-will towards him. i hope you all feel the same.
as for 'the pistol whippers'.... it looks like they were the ones who did it. i'm not positive but i think they emailed me a few months back and asked about doing art. i gave them a quote and never heard back.......go figure.
  2002-08-04 21:22:46
HamptonSend Hampton a message :   You go boy! Tear into 'em!   2002-07-29 22:37:43
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   gink* well, right now i'm hoping it's just the 'young-n-ignorant' syndrome. i've been there before myself (...queen victoria thru a tizzy fit over my 'dead lincolns' poster).ok, joke aside, i do want to give the chance to make amends. but...if i don't get some answers and an apology then it is time to turn it over to 'the dogs' (...yes, i have 2 lawyers on retainer. they are old friends whom i helped thru law school in exchange for such a situation. they are very good and extreamely ready to fight for me ). and yes, if i call them out they will get 'rabid'. not only could/would they sue the artist but also go after "danny's ancient art tattoo & body piercing" and "the empty glass". both these establishments profitted from 'the art theft' and are liable ( the extent of which depends on the state but, trust me, no state is cheap. ) so....
these are the 'amends' i want:
a): written apology (both emailed and 'posted' on www.gigposters.com)
b): detailed discription on where and how you got my art work.
c): detailed discription on how you manipulated my art for the poster.
d): any and all posters and merchandise containing my art.
e): absoulutly all moneys made from any use of my artwork.
***all the above is just a suggestion....if you want to get legal....let's go for it!
**
  2002-07-29 14:41:17
DaveGinkSend DaveGink a message :   Scrojo, go after a "retroactive licensing fee". Charge him what you would have if he had asked permission. Otherwise you can go for up to $100,000 in a willful copyright infringement suit. Most likely he doesn't have the money but you could bankrupt him if ya really wanted too. I'm guessing he'd rather pay the licensing fee.
Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a really high number of these cases lately????
  2002-07-29 13:44:24
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   A class act, that scrojo.   2002-07-29 10:07:05
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   ok, to answer jermaine's question: nope! i was never asked permission to use the girl. i'm curious where this guy swiped the image from. the actual poster was a fuck-up and was only up for a day before all the posters were removed (so he couldn't gotten it from there). the original drawing was done for my online drawing class but the first version i skrewed up the left foot (so it wasn't that one).so the only places he could have gotten it from was either the re-do (that clearly had my name on it) or (most likely) he ripped it off from 'gigposters' and then reposted it. absolute balls or complete stupidity....you make the call. i would be super-pissed but it's kinda hard to be mad at someone who is such a moron (is there a 'little bus' for poster artists?).
clay* you have my permission to keep this up. good example for the 'young'uns' on what not to do. as to wether or not i'm going to sue jaw depends on how fast i get a 'kiss-ass apology' email.
**everyone else: thanks for whatching my ass. i try to do the same when i can. i've been gone for awhile but i'll piss some more teritory later today (also if anyone has all the skinny on san fran shoot me an email).
  2002-07-29 08:49:15
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   this is clearly a different girl. remember how scrojos girl had white hair. this one's hair is black... ok enough fucking around. someones a real asshole for pulling shit like this.   2002-07-29 00:42:06
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Just did.   2002-07-28 22:36:07
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I'll give it a try.   2002-07-28 22:31:38
DaveGinkSend DaveGink a message :   Hmmmm.... has anyone sent word to Scrojo?   2002-07-28 22:26:55
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Darren gets props for using the word "gank" in a sentence. I hope Scrojo gets in this dude's ass for this. Shitty beyond belief, this.   2002-07-28 22:15:20
goad74Send goad74 a message :   Why do people pull this shit and then on top of that submit it to a website devoted to poster art?   2002-07-28 21:40:29
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   This shit is just wrong, man.   2002-07-28 21:37:23
Darren GrealishSend Darren Grealish a message :   This looks like a copy of a copy of the girl. His is real crisp and clean. I don't think he would've posted this.   2002-07-28 18:18:13
Darren GrealishSend Darren Grealish a message :   LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE..........   2002-07-28 18:16:48
ClaySend Clay a message :   This might be my fault. All of these Jaw submissions were a mess (band names for last names, etc).. so I just put him down as designing them.
Hey Jaw .. who designed this?
  2002-07-28 18:16:20
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   maybe they asked him. This is submitted by a band, I think. Maybe he was OK with it.
If not, stand back and watch the storm...
  2002-07-28 18:14:53
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   oh no...not this again.
Is this really Scrojo's gal?
  2002-07-28 18:13:41
kozikSend kozik a message :   uh oh.   2002-07-28 18:13:17
Darren GrealishSend Darren Grealish a message :   She was used on his Canada poster.   2002-07-28 18:12:49
Darren GrealishSend Darren Grealish a message :   Oh my God. Did someone gank Scrojo's girl? This was his drawing. Just asking?   2002-07-28 18:11:54
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