"All I know is that they 'picked on' a real good friend of mine who is like the most nicest guy ever and really loved their band, just cause he was like 'not cool' looking."
Mike LaVella?
Poor Chris. 91 posts and 75 are about QOTSA, etc. Chris is in the middle of a move from house to house. I imagine his computer is down until he moves in. Once it's up, I'm sure he'll be glad to trade or sell posters.
shit, the last thing i'm going to do is worry about there being enough. i just hope the van can hold all that shit. i do think it's funny that you went from not wanting any of them, to wanting one set, to two. fuckin' collectors, man...
a really ugly poster on chipboard i did last time they were here, and i also got a great clay statue of a priest on his knees ,smiling and praying at an altar-thingie, and when you lift the thingie, he's screwing some girl.
Wild Zero is an awesome rockers vs. zombies movie starring guitar wolf. The Wolf teaches the main character that "love sees no color, race or gender" when the kid discovers the girl he fell in love with is really a boy or hermaphrodite. Really hilarious movie.
well max, with dave grohl drumming for queens of the stone age, and them getting major market radio airplay... the death knoll of stoner metal may soon be upon us... but only if his presence can drag over enough of the foo/radio drones' attention... which from the single I heard on the radio...dont' count on it.
the mummies had really great gimmicks ... like that whole contest thing with the random guy on thier record cover thing. great stuff.
mummies = same guys as phantom surfers right?
I saw Guitar Wolf a couple of times and they looked great! But i couldnt tell if they could like actually play songs or not..do they actually know how to play?
? and the mysterions... there's a weird dude fronting a good band.
A friend and I were discussing major magazine coverage of indie stuff at the impound lot yesterday, and upon discussin' Gashboard Confessional and others getting covered as "emo" in Time, etc., and the Hives, etc. and the
new rock revolution or whatever... realized... the first tiem you see a full page article on something like that in Time, Newsweek, etc. it's teh final nail in the coffin...usually of something that died 3-4 years earlier.
art - which bands do you speak of? i mean, the ones getting buzz right now that sound like the makers? i cant think of anyone. this is not a crack, but a serious inquiry.
yes, ? and the mysterians.
i just have to say again: chris hope's illustration is awesome.
everytime I come back to see the internet one-up-manship crap I keep being wowed by it.
kevin -
well, we might think of them as 10 years ago, but the bands getting all the buzz right now sound like the old makers to me. the stance, the sound, the whole package. they even sell records and get written up in newsweek. what goes 'round... hell, they always reminded me of ? and the mysterions. even looked like 'em.
are you guys actually claiming some sort of 'victory' over me? was this some sort of contest? you people should clue me i omn this stuff. i thought i was talking to frank about the makers and what they were about. if this was a pissing contest, i missed it.
It's all relative, Mr. Bohr...In this case ,in my own immaterial
personal and non-objective opinion
they took a big smelly poo right where their trough was.
Anyway I can't remember any of their tunes.
So they dont really exist.
frank -
sure that's crap. that's THE POINT, EINSTEIN! the makers were always deeply into the gimmick.
i once saw them perform (at coca at the kustom kulture exhibit). the stage sat in the middle of the room, and micheal was trying to show all these uppity artsnobs a thing or two and was desperately trying to smash the plywood stage with his diving and dancing. he wanted to wreck it. but unknown to him, it was actually the old u-men stage and it was reinforced with steel. no matter what michael did, he couldn't break it. it looked really stupid. eventually this this art patron girl who worked there came up to him and quietly (afraid?) asked to please stop, 'cos they don't want their stage all broken. micheal looked right into her eyes and melted a little and said in a soft voice, "but we have to, it's part of our act."
get it, yet?
the makers play tough and are tough, but it's only because they're hurt inside by this crap like all of us. when you treat them like real people, you get a real rsponse. you play them, or suck up to them, they eat you. they hate the rock bullshit to the point that they love it. flip flop.
but now they've finally gone over the line and bought their own bullshit. it's all so confusing, now, and it used to be so simple...
this guy had a fanzine and worshipped their ass in print. He tried to do an interview and they fucked with him mentally and physically and this guy is like a softie...
thats crap.
frank -
AHA!! the truth comes out. if they picked on your friend for stupid reasons, it's because they thought it was all stupid. if your friend got hurt, he didn't get it. i know the makers. they get beat on more than anybody you've ever known, and they understand these things. for chrissakes, they grew up looking like that in SPOKANE! you ever been to spokane? it's a miracle they lived through it.
tell yer friend to stand up for himself. we have to.
inspector obvious - yeah, thats why they gots a new bass player after the 2nd album. guy raped some girl on tour ... the others had to let him go, you know to keep the wholesome image.
Ha!
All I know is that they 'picked on' a real good friend of mine who is like the most nicest guy ever and really loved their band, just cause he was like 'not cool' looking.
It really hurt this guy a LOT.
So I despise them.
richie -
if yer talking 'bout bikers, we nw folk have always gotten on well with them folks. they got good rules, easy to live by. no muss, no fuss, pass the beer.
i think they made some incredibly stupid egotisical moves with their "music" and 'career", but when it comes to calling them sissy names and expecting them to fall apart, i've witness otherwise. these guys have had to fight tooth and nail every step of their lives and i just wanted to point out to you that they hold grudges and no problem with a little of the ol' A & B on anybodies ass. just thought i'd tell you. be nice to them, they be nice back. an eye for an eye works well with them. they're actually good folks. they have burned some bridges lately in the name of 'artistic progress', which i think was a truly gigantic mistake, but they have the dignity to accept that. call them names, they'll kill your ass. simple, but effective.
really nolen, you think Q&NotU are forced? i really dont think so, or at least i cant tell from thier music. i dont care what kind of people they are (unless they are off raping little girls at shows like the promise ring or some shit), as long as the make decent music. i think that Q¬U have a pretty unique song writing style, and have far more substance than most of the bands ive heard compared with them. not all DC bands can sound like Circus Lupus (unfortunately)!
I saw the Makers afew times...they are so full of shit. Abusive jagoffs that rock NOT. That whole
'we are a gang' gimmick is like so tired.
Join the Marines and go kill some
foriegners if ya want to be a tuff guy. Picking on fat slobs at indie rock shows is like...gay.
I could eaily be talking about many many of the bands in indiedom, thought the makers are another good point. Hmmm... The Apes... they're really nice folks, again from teh DC area, again people love em, but it seems forced....really forced. The singer is super nice and down to earth though, not at all what you would expect from his wannabe iggy antics on stage.
frank -
two guys in the band are golden gloves and michael has had a bench warrant out for his arrest before. they are NOT WEENIES. i've sent hem pull off ultraviolence that's truly hilarious - and get away with it. they once had to be escorted out of a hall by the lapd because they had picked a fight with a gangbanger who came back with his crew to take them apart. they were eager to fight but the lapd thought otherwise.
frank, yer big, but the makers could eat you. sorry. queer? who knows, who cares? whatsitoyamotherfucker!
coz I saw 'em go from a band nobody knew who just dressed like some dudes.... who had goofy/bad stage moves and boring, uninventive music.... to being guys who started dressing cool and still wrote boring music and still had weird/bad stage moves but wait, they dress hip now...and.. that seems to be the only change from when I first saw em to now... the clothes DO make the band it seems. they bore me. but they know the right folks I guess?
chris hope kicking more butt. Great illustration... I like the ornamental type... the colors... feels like the opening title for a cartoon from teh late 60's/early 70's.
oh but mr. jones... why must you and so many others fall for Q & not U's bore-core?
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