ok ok, my crit... should have been like 3x5 feet big!!!
frank i think melissa was holding you back buddy!
when frank was working on this, i was talking to melissa while frank was physically working on the poster... she was like "dude, frank is doing something you wont expect, its wayyyy different" ... when we got these everyone flipped out.. and we never even cared to ask if SHITTY filter liked it or not. we didnt care.
you will be happy to know that I'm determined not to stretch type for a few posters. Just to see if I can get a distant,icey nod of
approval from all you KunstFuehrers. Then I'll revert to my tawdry 'alien' ways....
yer not failing at all. in fact i'd say you're a 75% there... a solid B.
besides, you asked, nee DEMANDED, that i 'fuck yer ass' (private message). not being of that persuasion, i settled for a hummer.
really? truck drivin school frank? my dad's a truck driver, started at 19. got the job because his dad was a truck driver. both still are. my mom was a truck driver before she had us kids, she just renewed her commercial license so she could go cross country with my dad.
ahhh, drivin those big rigs, i remember going across the us riding with my dad. there use to be a ton of father son teams, but now its pretty unionized.
anyways, big fan of the truck drivin man.
the faces came from a book of 1960's Cuban theatre posters.
I wasn't going for 'Warhol' as much as something kinda 'mop'
yeah. The big white filed is my fav area.
oh well. I'm failing Chantries remedial Summer School.
Maybe I'll go to truck driving school..oh wait a minute, allready did dad gum it!
schenkel's stuff is amazing - he designed a TON of zappa albums. weasels ripped my flesh gets the most attention, though, so not too many people know about schenkel. i recently bought an original painting he did from mark beam (he did the yellow shark cover). cool shit.
those early mothers covers were all done by one of my all-time favorite designers - cal schenkel. he was (and is) a brilliant twisted s.o.b.
he used cartoon bubbles often. i think it came from the advertising he designed for the mothers that they placed in comic books (they blew their whole ad budget for 'we're only in it for the money/lumpy gravy' dual release on ads in comic books. - they knew who their demographic was...)
it was discovering mr. schenkel that turned me onto collage as a design approach. go look at his work (check the inside layouts) and you'll see where i got the ideas that started me on my travels through designworld.
i don't believe warhol ever did anything remotely like this. however i saw a lot of fashion ads for bic pens and cheap wrapping paper and school folders with this sort of stuff on it. i believe it was refered to as "mod" or sometimes "op". i call it "mop".
Cartoon word bubble solution is interesting because it would end up looking like a Mothers of Invention album cover I think. Well, I guess that's pretty 60s.
Strangely enough I did a similar poster a couple of years ago that used the same type face and the "warhol" approach but I'd never seen this poster before today. If I had to do it again I'd change the typeface and go with something less played. Here's the poster:
frank - jamie looked at it and suggested it would be an idea to consider having that top middle image saying the important info in a cartoon word ballon. not a bad idea, and in perfect keeping with what would have been done by somebody approaching this in the 60's.
well, ok. i've been thinking about this poster like you asked, frank, and here's what i think:
i'm a sucker for that bad 60's high-contrast look. it was the result of the new high-contrast photogrphy printing papers introduced in the early 60's combined with photostat camera work and the intro of the photocopier (all things dear to my heart). is nice. i do think you could have used the white hi-lites to better advantage. perhaps that star? maybe all their teeth (i probably would have given them fangs, or blacked one tooth out of each mouth).
the problem i find (as usual with your work) is with the typography. you tend to want to seperate your type from your images - usually by placing it in 'bars' across the top and bottom. it's a great technique, but not for everything.
my suggestion is to chop off the white/type areas above and below and then use the faces as the entire poster area. you could easily place the typography in the faces in some clever way - maybe the white hi-lites could be used as type areas? put the info in as teeth? maybe have the type floating in waves across the color fields? lotsa possibilities.
the result would be an explosive colored image with the information trapped in the visual field, which is the area the viewer sees first and last. you get the information across entertainingly and almost subversively.
but i'd use a different typeface that doesn't compete with the 'illustration'. the one you used it too stylized and had already been used up by jon spencer. use something that is a block letter and looks generic - futura bold condensed, or my favorite - franklin gothic demi.
isn't this art stolen from that Make-Up video/movie "Blue is Beautiful"...but maybe with two faces added? the yellow guy in the middle I'm pretty sure is the Ian Svenonious. I like the idea of playing off of the venue name for a change... as for a crit of the type... I like the guys at house, ad most of their fonts I'm okay with...I just hate how everything at the bottom is flush right...also, with the letters in the band's name (i hate awkward letter combinations in a name) the letters seem to...bounce around at the top...mainly the t next to the e. A line going all the way across the bottom at that large point size would have grounded it more than the line of tiny type does.
Colors and use of white are nice...type at the bottom just doesn't feel finished.
hahah how's that for artschoolness?
and, i'm with you max. rb, you oughta let go of your robin hood tendencies. fight your own battles. if art pisses someone off, as he often does, let them duke it out on their own. you always end up coming off like an asshole when you step in. especially because that's the only time you DO step in. if you're gonna post, add something to the discussion, please.
This poster actually has zero to do with 'band'. It actually all revolves around the name of the venue
'the electric factory'
which to me sounds real sorta 1964-5 'Warhal' so I tried to do something that looked that way.....
sorry if you're disappointed in my latest tactic. i just choose not to engage. period. i think he's a little bonkers. whoever 'stalked' me at home was from this site. they went away eventually. beyond that, i'm guessing as to who it was. who would you guess?
i just choose not to engage him anymore, that's all. you folks are plenty.
Guns are so serious. However, I recently shot an HK USP .40, which seemed to be up to the job of killing something.
I'll take your bait, Mr. Kozik... I don't know enough about the band to know whether the ladies pictured are members... even if they are, they don't captivate me in the way some of your other imagery has.
Also, although the type is very well balanced and the colors are refreshingly RGB, the use of the "trick" typeface leaves me cold.
In my opinion, most faces made up until the 50s are quite enough to get used to without adding to the library a bunch of knock-offs (most modern faces are Adobe Illustrator-tweaked versions of classic designs)
Of course your overall sense of composition is still air-tight... and I doubt that's something that's ever come as a challenge to you... I say that because it seems like you're looking for a challenge.
Feel free to destroy one of my pieces...
all I know is that when I had my place in the mission and these
Norteno fucks pulled a gun on me and I whipped my shit out and was like which ones coming with me they ran away real fucking fast.
and I'm no tough guy.
guns.love em. been a friend in time of need.
at the studio I have a fully auto
AK...a good one.
when I'm out and it's sketchy a colt 45 defender with a 3" barrell. Fits in your pocket, WILL drop anyone first shot hits.
at hime it's the trustu Mossberger
'marine'...rubber pistol grip. small size/max 'footprint' for shooting in the dark.
rb, If you contributed to the discussions then I wouldnt have a problem with you trying to "defend" us against Art. but you don't . you just come in and start blasting. Thats bullshit.
Either be part of it all the time or back off. You are now officialy getting in the way of discussion.
Frank 'gets' it.
Chantry told you that? PLEASE. He overestimates his 'desireability factor'. He sure can shovel it out but hates when it comes back in his own yard.
Yep, a 2way street. Seems like everytime Mr Chantry is confronted with a dissenting voice concerning his rugged 'manly' attitude, he bails.
And he pulled his posters because of...'censorship'?
Get over yourself Artie. 8)
What a joke.
'RB's here so Im outta here for a while'..
As if he's really 'gone'. Oh, he's still here...reading. And playing the grumpy Messiah. All you kids here, Art's gonna show you 'the right way'. Its so VERY high school. How old is this guy?
Art creates a target for himself...and I simply 'AIM'. :-D
No TRUTH, I have no problems with you. You seem like a fairly nice fella. You live by the basic tennants of human respect. Most of us do.
The poor few who dont exercise these human qualities have voluntarily draped themselves in 'the target'.
And Im lil' ol Robby Hood pointing my arrows.
What the FUCK do you or fucking Missy Chantry care if some retard is 'stalking' you on a fucking computer. Jesus Christ, get a pair. Every time Chantry pulls a fucking puss move like this it makes me so tetchy....it's a 2-way dtreet in a public forum! THAT"S WHY IT"S GOOD.
this was the first poster frank did for us in philly.. man... it went over great... apeshit... its hanging up at a huge venue framed next to alot of other cool ones...
i was the one who shit their pants that frank is referring to... he has been really cool with adding to the scum culture of philly..
filter sucks donkey balls!