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DESIGNER:

333 Empire

VENUE:

Tour Poster

USA

SUBMITTED BY:

2006-05-17 14:12:11

BANDS:

Liars, The
Apes, The
Rabbits

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El Negro Magnifico! :

A tour poster doesn't have to have venue info.

2006-05-20 10:16:08

webuyyourkids :

anyway, this poster is surely for merch purposes - doesnt have any date or venue info, so its really rabbits merch for people who liked them play and wanted a souvenir.

2006-05-20 09:59:37

john seabury :

I just tried it with my red/blue 3-D glasses. Doesn't help...

2006-05-20 09:47:36

seripop :

why spend money to promote another band you ask? cause it's the other band that is getting them the exposure in the first place by having them on the tour.. a good support slot for a smaller band can be the difference between playing for a couple dozen and a couple thousand people.
ain't nothing wrong with having everyone's name the same size...

2006-05-20 08:57:10

Brute666 :

I think if the smaller band pays for the poster, they get to say what's on the poster. If the headlining band wants all the glory, then they should pay for their own poster. We've made posters for supporting acts who wanted their name big. It's for their own promotion. Why spend good money to promote another band? We've also done a popster for a headliner that was paid for by the opening act, but in that situation the opening act was trying to kiss the headliner's ass in hopes of getting on the whole tour.
There doesn't seem to be a code of honor among musicians that I've ever seen. The whole business is filled with good people who help each other whenver they can, but it's also riddled with back-stabbing rip-off artists, so who can really say what's right or wrong. It comes down to your own set of morals.

2006-05-20 08:13:51

Leia :

A lot of times at our club we get tour posters in the mail for Band X and Band Y who are playing on the same night but who send their own tour posters separately. We are then to write in the other bands playing the date with a sharpie marker. Y'all know the kinds of posters I mean, pretty standard. I don't see much difference here other than these are screenprinted which makes them all the more badass.

2006-05-20 07:48:18

Badlydrawnbas :

or this: http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=64376

2006-05-20 06:32:03

zeloot :

maybe rabbits is not a band but a description of the picture... (i prefer giving bands equal attention..no matter how big or small they are)

2006-05-20 06:26:36

webuyyourkids :

and then i'd probably walk a little further down the street and see this
http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=64659

2006-05-20 04:19:45

webuyyourkids :

if i saw this on the street i would just think cool- rabbits have a great poster for a show where they're supporting liars and apes (since they're listed at the top n all).
in australia at least you see heaps of posters which read:
LARGE TYPE: "SMALL BAND" small type: "Supporting BIGGER BAND".
That's kinda normal - small band showing initiative, getting the word out and not kowtowing to some bullshit ego billing rules, while still acknowledging they're the support act. I think this is a clever poster which communicates that without all those words.
and then id think cool poster again.

2006-05-20 04:18:55

Nicholas M MacMillan :

I hope I didn't sound snarky in my earlier comments, I didn't mean it that way. I like discussing these sorts of things too...

2006-05-20 02:53:54

Nicholas M MacMillan :

Yeah I know what you mean. I guess with this particular design it kind of makes sense that "Rabbits" is more prominently placed because the whole poster is based around drawings of bunnies. Looking at it I don't know how else you'd do it (other than using a totally different design).
I totally understand what you are saying though, and in some cases it could come accross as rude to do that sort of thing, but in this case it seems alright to me. The names of the other two bands are not *that* much smaller, maybe they could have been made to be the same size, even if "Rabbits" was still centered and at the bottom.
Also, in regards to this poster, I think it's more "OK" because it isn't necessarily the "offical" or ONLY poster for the tour. There's likely a poster in every indiviaual city with "LIARS" multiple times larger than the rest, and maybe the other two bands are even doing their own tour posters... who knows.
It's an interesting question, and it could do either way depending on the circumstances, but this one seems cool to me.
OK... sorry for blabbing so much...

2006-05-20 02:50:26

seripop :

hey i don't wanna speak for anyone other than myself. perhaps liars are thrilled ? who knows. i just feel in general this is kinda weird. i know if my own band were asked to tour as a support act for a larger band i wouldn't imagine doing a poster with our own name larger and an image relating to us because i would feel that it might be discourteous . but heck even if my band were headling i wouldn't put our name bigger cause i'm not into making it a contest. it is quite possible that i'm just neurotic.
and i don't wanna seem like i'm being picky , i just actually enjoy talking about this stuff.
anyway this is a cool poster.

2006-05-20 01:04:05

Nicholas M MacMillan :

Oops, I meant "It's not like the other two bands' names AREN'T in plain view..."

2006-05-19 20:11:14

Nicholas M MacMillan :

Does it really matter who is "headlining?"
Why does it matter?
The only possible practicle difference it should matter to anyone is conserning set-times, and making sure you get there in time to see the band you want to see. And that really isn't info you would put on a tour poster anyway. So who cares?
It's not like the other two bands' names are in plain view and 100% legible (and not even that much smaller in the first place).

2006-05-19 20:10:00

Steve H :

so whos headlining then? surely the rabbits are? or am i missing something..the other 2 bands have "equal" billing and arent as big as the rabbits..plus the rabbits on the poster is another hint...never heared of any of them but as a passer by i'd say the rabbits were the headline band..is that right?

2006-05-19 19:56:14

Nicholas M MacMillan :

OH... and I liker this poster! I like bunnies, I like that font, I like the drawings...

2006-05-19 18:10:25

Nicholas M MacMillan :

I really couldn't picture Liars really getting upset about it. They don't seem like a band who would care, and I would be pretty dissapointed if they were. Their name *is* on the poster, they would have to have pretty big egos to give a shit if their name was slightly smaller. Ultimaly it helps them all. I think it's such bullshit ego politics to get upset about this kind of stuff. Totally lame and weirdo to me.
It's promotion for the band as much as the tour, I don't think there's any problem with that...
Just my opinion (not that anyone should care about my opinion)...

2006-05-19 18:09:33

amy jo :

depends on the situation and bands involved i think. i was commissioned to make these: http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=53889 for thee shams who were the supporting band on that tour. the bands are all friends so it didn't matter. i also made a poster for their show together in MPLS: http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=54397

2006-05-19 16:19:52

The Fresh Prints :

i can agree with that.

2006-05-19 15:45:37

seripop :

i also think the politics for a tour poster and a show poster are different for this kind of thing. i personally feel that if you are a smaller band , invited as a support act on a tour that having posters made where you are top dog risks to step on toes.

2006-05-19 15:44:26

Josh Rickun :

when i do it for my own band, if we're opening, i try and make all the bands close to the same size and put em in the order they're playing...but, if we're headlining we get the big letters, everyone else gets the tiny.

2006-05-19 15:34:06

The Fresh Prints :

yeah, i can see were it would be easy to get pissed for not being recognized as top dog on the billing, certainly when this is your money maker or you are paying for the poster. i do this as a hobby, so i could really give a damn about another band tweaking on me for doing my own flyers. oh well, i'm an ass.

2006-05-19 15:27:02

John A :

'caste'

2006-05-19 15:18:30

John A :

Once we go to a global castes system this will all be clear. Until then, I'm with Ferg.

2006-05-19 15:18:16

seripop :

see i could never imagine doing that. seems to me that a band could burn some bridges that way.
yannick and i only give top billing to our band on a poster if we are indeed headlining. often the bands we open for end up being clients , seems like we'd be shooting ourselves in the both both for our band and for seripop if we were to do that.
i know that if a support act we were bringing on tour would do something like this , me and my bandmates would be slightly put off.
just my 2 cents.

2006-05-19 15:16:31

ferg2001 :

the word on the street is- who gives a fuxk.

2006-05-19 15:16:17

The Fresh Prints :

yeah, if my band is playing and i designed and printed the posters, not to mention the expense of the materials, then for sure i am putting us on the top row. of course the headliner isn't too stoked, but hey at least someone took the time to do a poster and promote the show in a cool way. i can dig it.

2006-05-19 15:11:32

steve w :

whoever pays me gets top billing (if they want)

2006-05-19 15:04:25

perkins :

When my band plays shows & I do a poster, whether we're the headliner or not, we get top billing on my poster. Many times the other bands don't care to pitch in for production costs, and put up their own promo material for the show anyway.

2006-05-19 14:58:45

John A :

it happens a lot.

2006-05-19 14:51:12

seripop :

is it kosher for a support act on a tour to have posters made that gives the impression they are headlining? seems kinda weird to me...

2006-05-19 14:50:04

zeloot :

wow..this so cool

2006-05-19 14:47:39

3d glasses :

hell yeah! Its all about fucking with the eyes!