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DESIGNER:
Henry Owings  
VENUE:
Drunken Unicorn
Atlanta
GA
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Henry H Owings  
2005-10-03 17:30:17
 
BANDS:
Dmbq
Rump Posse
Spooks, The



Dmbq Poster - Drunken Unicorn, Atlanta - Henry Owings



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standardSend standard a message :   i got an issue of craphound at a roller derby punk rock flea market. I feel PRETTY INDIE RIGHT 'BOUT NOW.   2008-07-02 09:19:24
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   sub genius stole them from roth (whom rob't worked for) as far as i know.
that, however, didn't stop the sub genius dudes from sueing a major corporation (i was dragged in as a source of info on them) for using images from their "book". cthey had NO rights to the copyrights of the stuff they used, but they still sued a corporation. it was settled out of court. real guts and more than a little crazy.
DON'T LIFT FROM THE SUB GENIUS FOUNDATION! they take this stuff as seriously as 'religion'. no joke!
  2005-11-12 11:06:05
connor13Send connor13 a message :   the "see no evil, hear ne evil, speak no evil" skulls are Williams from the Book of the SubGenius arent they?   2005-11-12 10:57:52
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   upon studying these skulls, i reognize at least two as robert williams drawn skulls that he did for ed roth, who subsequently sold the copyrights to japan (sony, i believe). as far as i know the rights are in contention and are not enforced, but may be someday. so, i think it's really dangerous to just grab stuff out of craphound at random. be VERY careful when you use clip art. have deniability built in. be able to back up yer bullshit. trust me on this.   2005-11-12 10:50:46
Brent OliverSend Brent Oliver a message :   From the thumbnail - it looked like a dead skull version of that Black & White pencil drawing poster of "The Jam" (or whatever the fuck it's called) with faces of rock and roll greats. That would be a funny adaptation of that poster. If I could draw - I'd totally do that. Since I can't, please steal this idea.   2005-11-10 13:36:39
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   OMG!!!! Too many skulls. He should be sued!   2005-11-10 12:24:07
J W BuchananSend J W Buchanan a message :   It was such a disillusioning moment when I first flipped through an issue of Craphound years ago. I was totally scarred. Designers can be so lazy sometimes.   2005-11-10 12:20:36
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Cool. That's a nice site. Thanks.   2005-11-10 11:55:55
Thomas ScottSend Thomas Scott a message :   Denny: http://readingfrenzy.com/   2005-11-10 11:38:44
crosshairSend crosshair a message :   ...not one that uses the skulls issue though, because with this poster, Henry has definitively closed the book on the Craphound Skulls poster genre.   2005-11-10 10:25:49
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I'd never heard of craphound until just a while back. I guess it's gone now? Can I get it (them?) somewhere?   2005-11-10 10:24:06
crosshairSend crosshair a message :   I'm working on a poster that uses craphound images RIGHT NOW!   2005-11-10 10:21:55
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   andy -
well, sean (after consulting with a lwyer) decided to not 'officially' call it a clip art book, because it does open the door to legal drama that COULD happen (but likely won't ever. it's now officially called "a picture book for discussion and activity", which is undoubtedly a safe phrase, as well as funny. ya see, craphound is a periodical, a magazine ('zine). that means it is protected from a lot of legalities under the first amendement of the constitution as free speech and freedom of the press. freedom of the press allows a wider range of image use under the first amendement unmbrella. it it were a book (which is a product and not covered under the first amendment), or a t-shirt or a poster, it would not be protected as a newspaper or periodical would be. so, it is in a rather unique position under the law.
sean uses this 'soapbox' as a place to question and challenge the fairness of contemporary copyright and trademark laws and to also promote the (as of this point) unproven (in a court of law) legal concept of "fair use". it is an idea he firmly believes in. further, i think theat he thinks ALL copyrights law is inherently unfair and should be eliminated. however, that would also include your copyrights. so, there really is no either/or position to take here, only shades of gray.
the bottom line is that sean is free to publish whatever the fuck he wants in his zine and it's ok. however, if you take one of his images and use it directly on something unprotected (like a poster or a tshirt or a cd cover), you run the risk of being nailed by whomever holds the copyright to that image. it could be me or you or a multinational coproration. you just don't know.
a poster like this is a wonderful funny, even brilliant thing (the ultimate 'skull' poster. it's almost to the point of being a joke). but, it also walks a very fine and undetermined line through copyrights. it's very expensive to get sued. it quickly becomes whomever has the most money to pursue the other (aka - deep pockets) that will determine who will eventually win. the game is played to break the other financially. if it were you and i having a dispute about copyright, we'd come to some personal agreement and it would be over. it you were up against a big corporation, those lawyers have to justify their hourlies and will drag it out forever to make money for themselves. you will be destroyed by them. it's like a steamroller.
so, watch it out there.
  2005-11-10 08:43:40
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   craphound inside front cover: A WORD OF WARNING. Many images in craphounds are copyrighted by lawsuit friendly entities. Remember that craphound is a mixture of social commentary and somewhat over indulgent graphic design. It is not a means to trample the fragile rights of huge corporations. Remember: There is no "U" in copyright infringement. Craphound officially urges you to obey all laws, all the time.
Craphound back cover: TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FAIR USE... IT"S YOUR RIGHT. DON'T LET THE BIG MEN TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU.
  2005-11-10 00:02:02
andydieselSend andydiesel a message :   art,
isn't craphound an indie clip art book?
i actually have no idea and just heard of it for the first time about four months ago.
  2005-11-09 21:42:13
piemelSend piemel a message :   well... ummm, its so obvious that it goes beyond simply ripping off and becomes perhaps 'smart'
i mean, this is fucking funny
well done i guess
  2005-11-09 17:58:14
slidingpastSend slidingpast a message :   skulls skulls and more skulls   2005-11-09 17:52:33
connor13Send connor13 a message :   dude blew his craphound wad. this is like 5 whole pages on one poster   2005-10-07 14:41:41
printmafia-connieSend printmafia-connie a message :   As Art Chantry has said "use your head and be smart when you appropriate art".   2005-10-07 14:40:59
j-rod89Send j-rod89 a message :   I see dead people.   2005-10-07 14:31:10
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I likes!   2005-10-07 13:54:05
steve wSend steve w a message :   HA ha!   2005-10-07 13:48:06
crosshairSend crosshair a message :   isn't that the whole point of Craphound?   2005-10-07 13:43:15
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   it's so weird to see images you gave to craphound show up on somebody else's poster like it was authorless clip art.   2005-10-07 13:09:30
kathleenturneroverdriveSend kathleenturneroverdrive a message :   If you squint your eyes and turn the poster at an angle, you can kind of see a skull.   2005-10-07 13:07:19
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