oh, by the way, i know it's slovenian (not russian). and it actually IS my re-designed/drawn image, not the original russian stamp he used as source material. i think this guy made a rather wry commentary with his poster.
i still look at this and cringe.
i took and old russian stamp and re-drew it and re-designed it and used it as a piece of agitprop gigposterting for the gang of four. then (i assume) and old russian takes my poster and uses it straight across and then slaps a levi/strauss logo on it. who should get pissed at who?
i'm so confused.
if this is public domain... like, actually, russia's govt, which produced this is dissolved...
so, techincally, no copyright laws are broken... so. anyone can use it.
so. wft?
Hmmm...this is an interesting development. So Art really didn't do anything except take someone else's artwork and sell it for $4,000.
Oh, actually he did photo copy it.
Am I the "fella" ryan noles mentioned?
If so, it is correct that it was a crutch for
the couple of years that I was adjusting to Fatherhood. But incorrect that my illustration/design sense got better. I just got sick of it.
Chantry called me on it just as I was coming out of it.
"so, is it a rip off? in a way, it is. it's taking a strong design solution developed by somebody else and using it as a crutch. it's really no different than that fella who did those great poster using old postage stamp borders (called a 'cartouche') and putting in new images and words. they worked really well, but after awhile his illustration (and his design) sense got better than his gimmick, and he didn't need that border 'crutch' anymore to carry his ideas. in his case the cartouche began to hurt his work. The same is beginning to happen here with this poster."
bdix -
well, if you actually saw the thing you might think differently.
in the meantime, does anyone have any idea how to respond to this rather flagrant violation of my copyrights?
i can't think of thing i can do. slovenia? i thought we bombed that place back into the stone age. or was that afganistan? iraq? vietnam? i forget, maybe it was genocide? rwanda?
shit, let the poor bastards steal it. they earned the right.
oh, by the way, it's supposed to be an old peasant WOMAN, now. i changed the sex. i had to be subtle. i was trying to creat an image of the everyman combined with our preconceptions of what a peasant looks like. i added tears while the bombs dropped in the background to sort of point out how all political systems eventually fail and the average commoner takes the brunt of that.
yeah, that really is what i was trying to say with that image. it's what i thought about when i used to listen to gang of four.
by the way, that was one of the best shows i have EVER seen. they were fucking amazing back then. absolutely without parallel,if you ask me.
it started out as an old etching of a peasnt guy in a field. i blew it way up on a stat camera dn cut out the face and and the background and started re-drew the entire face and re-drew the hair and re-drew the chest and on and on. i'd guess that about 35% of the finish was textures from the old etching and 65% of it was ink from my pen.
all the borders and lettering, etc. were mine. there were some old photos of bombs dropping in the background that i also had to re-draw to get rid of the halftone dots and make them look like an etching.
so, i think i can claim thisa as a drawing. this is the one that i sold the original mechanical for 4 grand. it was pretty intense piece of collaged scraps of paper and rapidograph ink.
Wow...thank's for the link..now that really is "borrowing"...thing is, It doesn't make a whole lot of sense here...those crazy Polish...or Tazekiestanies (sp) or...
bdix -
you assume that it's been copped before it was copped. you'll have to prove that to me before i decide whether you're funny or not.
that's a challenge, there, bdix.
pretty funny. at least they did a nice job with it (har har).
gee, do you suppose i need to fly on a plane all the way to slovenia and sue them for all they are worth? i wonder how much that would be?? $5? $10?
sorta sad, isn't it?
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