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DESIGNER:
Romeo Strakl  
VENUE:
Pekarna
Maribor
Slovenia
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Romeo Strakl
2005-06-02 06:51:04
 
BANDS:
Eden
Fat Nuns, The
Dik Obraz
Pridigarji



Eden Poster - Pekarna, Maribor - Romeo Strakl



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art chantrySend art chantry a message :   oh, by the way, i know it's slovenian (not russian). and it actually IS my re-designed/drawn image, not the original russian stamp he used as source material. i think this guy made a rather wry commentary with his poster.   2008-08-28 12:08:42
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i still look at this and cringe.
i took and old russian stamp and re-drew it and re-designed it and used it as a piece of agitprop gigposterting for the gang of four. then (i assume) and old russian takes my poster and uses it straight across and then slaps a levi/strauss logo on it. who should get pissed at who?
i'm so confused.
  2008-08-28 12:06:44
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Randomized GP History.   2008-08-28 11:58:08
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   EEN RAH-SHAH, FLY BUTTONS YOU!   2007-09-28 09:56:38
John ASend John A a message :   hi there.   2007-09-28 09:50:52
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   :slumberpartyfingertiplift:   2006-06-02 15:27:18
J W BuchananSend J W Buchanan a message :   HOLD ME   2006-06-02 15:24:03
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   holy shit i saw rene in the mirror behind me!   2006-06-02 15:23:22
J W BuchananSend J W Buchanan a message :   quick go out and buy a lottery ticket, then go to a mirror and say "Bloody Mary" 3 times.   2006-06-02 15:18:53
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   ohmigodrandom   2006-06-02 14:53:09
Johnny CrapSend Johnny Crap a message :   Heh.   2006-03-09 06:14:11
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   I hate button fly jeans   2005-10-12 14:45:43
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Oh, I got it. (I think) Thanks!   2005-06-09 15:10:28
BoydSend Boyd a message :   Would have been better if it included some unicorns. That farted ice cream.   2005-06-09 14:33:14
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Art's story didn't lack originality.
In fact it was a completely original work of fiction.
  2005-06-09 14:31:46
BoydSend Boyd a message :   For me, its more of a lack of originality thats the problem, on both posters.   2005-06-09 14:29:18
tysonkreftSend tysonkreft a message :   i dont think anyone is arguing that any laws have been broken.   2005-06-09 13:58:25
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   if this is public domain... like, actually, russia's govt, which produced this is dissolved...
so, techincally, no copyright laws are broken... so. anyone can use it.
so. wft?
  2005-06-09 13:39:39
tysonkreftSend tysonkreft a message :   rip off of a rip off in a series of rip offs.   2005-06-09 13:16:12
RobynneRayeSend RobynneRaye a message :   Very true, Standard, there's a lot of hisory between us.   2005-06-09 12:51:40
standardSend standard a message :   Wow, RR. I just looked at your GP posts and every comment you've ever made has been a swipe at Art Chantry. That must be very fulfilling.   2005-06-09 12:47:33
RobynneRayeSend RobynneRaye a message :   Hey Denny Thanks for the note/stickers awhile back. I tried to email a thank you and I'm not sure you got it.   2005-06-09 12:45:07
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Hi Robynne. What's up?
At least this one has color. And funny words.
  2005-06-09 12:35:05
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   he might have sold another piece of artwork and misspoke.
  2005-06-09 12:34:28
RobynneRayeSend RobynneRaye a message :   Hmmm...this is an interesting development. So Art really didn't do anything except take someone else's artwork and sell it for $4,000.
Oh, actually he did photo copy it.
  2005-06-09 12:33:24
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=8340   2005-06-09 08:40:10
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   original is a stamp. the jpeg is in a thread. chantry's is the gang of four poster.   2005-06-09 08:39:43
bdixSend bdix a message :   Romeo copped Art who copped a Russian stamp.
http://www.rossia.com/stamps/im510-1000/618.jpg
  2005-06-09 08:39:34
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   repeat quote...who/where/what's the original?   2005-06-09 08:36:51
steve wSend steve w a message :   Am I the "fella" ryan noles mentioned? If so, it is correct that it was a crutch for the couple of years that I was adjusting to Fatherhood. But incorrect that my illustration/design sense got better. I just got sick of it. Chantry called me on it just as I was coming out of it.   2005-06-09 08:30:49
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I like this one better. More letters.   2005-06-09 08:29:28
bdixSend bdix a message :   :cartouche:   2005-06-09 08:26:39
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   im part russian.   2005-06-09 08:11:16
seripopSend seripop a message :   a rip off of what?   2005-06-09 07:48:48
tysonkreftSend tysonkreft a message :   no, it's a rip off.   2005-06-09 06:29:29
wallySend wally a message :   :jackmove:   2005-06-09 03:16:03
ryan noleSend ryan nole a message :   "so, is it a rip off? in a way, it is. it's taking a strong design solution developed by somebody else and using it as a crutch. it's really no different than that fella who did those great poster using old postage stamp borders (called a 'cartouche') and putting in new images and words. they worked really well, but after awhile his illustration (and his design) sense got better than his gimmick, and he didn't need that border 'crutch' anymore to carry his ideas. in his case the cartouche began to hurt his work. The same is beginning to happen here with this poster."   2005-06-09 02:23:14
bmetheSend bmethe a message :   someone should be ashamed of themselves.   2005-06-07 07:39:24
JohnnyThiefSend JohnnyThief a message :   I actually ducked when I saw this, sometimes those old reflexes are hard to overcome,...!   2005-06-05 20:50:50
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   dear lord.   2005-06-05 20:43:10
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   That's a nice stamp. Always interesting to see where source material actually comes from.   2005-06-04 05:14:40
MeelooSend Meeloo a message :   It's good to see posters from easter countries. ... the Slovenian state gonne sue Chantry ?   2005-06-04 01:38:54
stromiSend stromi a message :   Before You throw bombs, go to web site: http://www.zum.de/whkmla/stamps/ussr.jpg and look at the second stamp from the left in the first row   2005-06-04 00:49:09
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Yeccch.   2005-06-03 21:49:22
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Why would you want to sue this guy? He's obviously one of the uneducated masses where all the greatest new ideas come from.
He's like your hero.
  2005-06-03 15:18:10
standardSend standard a message :   Sue Levi's.   2005-06-03 15:10:16
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   bdix -
well, if you actually saw the thing you might think differently.
in the meantime, does anyone have any idea how to respond to this rather flagrant violation of my copyrights?
i can't think of thing i can do. slovenia? i thought we bombed that place back into the stone age. or was that afganistan? iraq? vietnam? i forget, maybe it was genocide? rwanda?
shit, let the poor bastards steal it. they earned the right.
  2005-06-03 15:05:17
bdixSend bdix a message :   An etching and half a drawing?   2005-06-03 14:54:38
standardSend standard a message :   How about a Twix and half a Kit Kat?   2005-06-03 14:53:21
RobSend Rob a message :   ha...he even flipped it eichelbergerererer style.   2005-06-03 14:53:08
bdixSend bdix a message :   how about kudos and half an apology?
;)
  2005-06-03 14:51:37
ROTATORSend ROTATOR a message :   I suppose that was before they got kinda fruity with "Is It Love"...I still like the "man In Uniform" track....   2005-06-03 14:49:37
doggydoodleSend doggydoodle a message :   Art you aren't old. You're seasoned. :)   2005-06-03 14:49:25
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   christ, i did that gang of four poster nearly 25 years ago!!!
good gawd!!!
  2005-06-03 14:47:55
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   oh, by the way, it's supposed to be an old peasant WOMAN, now. i changed the sex. i had to be subtle. i was trying to creat an image of the everyman combined with our preconceptions of what a peasant looks like. i added tears while the bombs dropped in the background to sort of point out how all political systems eventually fail and the average commoner takes the brunt of that.
yeah, that really is what i was trying to say with that image. it's what i thought about when i used to listen to gang of four.
by the way, that was one of the best shows i have EVER seen. they were fucking amazing back then. absolutely without parallel,if you ask me.
  2005-06-03 14:45:44
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   it started out as an old etching of a peasnt guy in a field. i blew it way up on a stat camera dn cut out the face and and the background and started re-drew the entire face and re-drew the hair and re-drew the chest and on and on. i'd guess that about 35% of the finish was textures from the old etching and 65% of it was ink from my pen.
all the borders and lettering, etc. were mine. there were some old photos of bombs dropping in the background that i also had to re-draw to get rid of the halftone dots and make them look like an etching.
so, i think i can claim thisa as a drawing. this is the one that i sold the original mechanical for 4 grand. it was pretty intense piece of collaged scraps of paper and rapidograph ink.
  2005-06-03 14:41:24
RobSend Rob a message :   art...i remeber reading that the image was from a russian stamp, right or no?   2005-06-03 14:37:35
doggydoodleSend doggydoodle a message :   Thanks for the ref, Shawny.
So Art, is this an original drawing of yours?
  2005-06-03 14:35:54
bdixSend bdix a message :   art-
let's just be straight up. did you draw this? If so, kudos and apologies.
  2005-06-03 14:35:52
ROTATORSend ROTATOR a message :   By the way super cool Gang of 4 poster --love them (as does every 22 ear old "new Waver" does ...anyone see that show?   2005-06-03 14:35:37
ROTATORSend ROTATOR a message :   Wow...thank's for the link..now that really is "borrowing"...thing is, It doesn't make a whole lot of sense here...those crazy Polish...or Tazekiestanies (sp) or...   2005-06-03 14:33:10
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   bdix -
you assume that it's been copped before it was copped. you'll have to prove that to me before i decide whether you're funny or not.
that's a challenge, there, bdix.
  2005-06-03 14:31:46
craveSend crave a message :   no, pigged.   2005-06-03 14:29:42
bdixSend bdix a message :   when you cop something that's been copped, does it make it capped?   2005-06-03 14:28:44
ShawnySend Shawny a message :   http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=8340 = reference   2005-06-03 14:26:56
craveSend crave a message :   I think you should return the favor. Chances are, though, all his art is copped from somewhere else. Just look at that Sepultura poster.   2005-06-03 14:26:37
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   pretty funny. at least they did a nice job with it (har har).
gee, do you suppose i need to fly on a plane all the way to slovenia and sue them for all they are worth? i wonder how much that would be?? $5? $10?
sorta sad, isn't it?
  2005-06-03 14:24:30
doggydoodleSend doggydoodle a message :   okay before this DOES get to 50 I need a reference here...   2005-06-03 14:24:15
bdixSend bdix a message :   I feel a 50 page thread coming on.   2005-06-03 14:22:08
craveSend crave a message :   Cough, cough, HACK, cough.   2005-06-03 14:19:53
ourmaninpekingSend ourmaninpeking a message :   Beware the wrath of Chantry.   2005-06-03 14:17:41
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   damaged goods   2005-06-03 13:56:08
RobSend Rob a message :   oh my.
  2005-06-03 13:52:52
John ASend John A a message :   She has that like about her... like she'd send in the army or something.   2005-06-03 13:41:11
nemotronSend nemotron a message :   ya know.... this looks A LITTLE familiar. where could i have seen it before? hmmm. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.   2005-06-03 13:40:10
John ASend John A a message :   like a case of Anthrax.   2005-06-03 13:25:39
HYNESSend HYNES a message :   so much better with the levis logo   2005-06-03 13:23:05
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   wow.   2005-06-03 13:21:23
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