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DESIGNER:
Jermaine Rogers 
VENUE:
Aerial Theater
Houston
TX
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Jermaine Rogers 
2002-01-12 15:45:31
 
BANDS:
Strokes, The
Longwave



Strokes Poster - Aerial Theater, Houston - Jermaine Rogers



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philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   mike is humming "last night in the shower" right naw.   2008-06-09 08:40:00
poguemahoneSend poguemahone a message :   oooof   2008-06-09 08:26:15
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   "I like the Strokes"   2008-06-09 08:20:30
RobSend Rob a message :   1/12/02...never forget.   2008-06-09 08:12:16
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   lolz.   2008-06-09 08:08:37
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   Ha ha! ICE BURN!   2008-06-08 21:50:46
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   You did January 12, 2002.   2008-06-08 21:44:24
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I never liked the Strokes.   2008-06-08 21:31:40
John ASend John A a message :   Mike Fisher likes the Strokes.   2008-06-08 20:55:40
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   bump   2008-05-01 14:30:33
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   2002 Fisher was awesome!   2007-03-05 03:36:00
piemelSend piemel a message :   Why in HELL do I have this poster?   2007-03-05 03:10:09
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Oh, and I don't know why I said I like the Strokes. I have never liked the Strokes.   2007-03-03 22:23:35
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Was this really over 5 years ago? Holy crap I can't believe I have wasted all of these years on this damn site.   2007-03-03 22:19:27
standardSend standard a message :   Iron Maiden wears spandex.   2005-07-01 09:09:10
John ASend John A a message :   Random "ignorant boobs" comment. Oh, and Mike Fisher likes the Strokes.   2005-07-01 08:28:44
hit and runSend hit and run a message :   Spelled "I'm" wrong.   2005-02-08 11:35:52
PlantweedSend Plantweed a message :   Never saw this one, funny debate.   2004-12-10 06:36:48
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   rondomized gospel! can I git a hallelujah?   2004-07-07 19:09:52
creeSend cree a message :   randomized, and I fucking love it.   2004-03-27 09:25:22
Mr FrumpySend Mr Frumpy a message :   When I first joined gigposters this debate was going on, then jermaine did the poster that pretty much summed it all up. Fucking love it. I also have one courtesy of J himself. AWESOME.   2004-03-07 23:08:53
SWAMP SLUTSend SWAMP SLUT a message :   :o Liza Minnelli
so much drama here. i think this poster is cool. funny stuff, Jermaine. :lol:
  2004-03-07 22:41:43
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   RANDOMIZER-   2002-08-06 21:18:14
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   there should have been a flaming skull in here somewhere   2002-06-18 07:43:04
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I always thought Joyce DeWitt was fine.   2002-06-11 17:18:41
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Nah. This chick is based on one of Jens pals...Kate. My gal is a brunnette...blame Janet on THREES COMPANY- my mind was prejudiced long ago..Monday nights, ABC, 1979   2002-06-11 17:12:16
kozikSend kozik a message :   Jermaine-I just wish that you had gone all the way and drawn yourself instead of the Amish guy. Is that a drawing of Jen?   2002-06-11 17:07:50
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   No sarcasm Krafty. Youre absolutely right. :-)   2002-06-11 17:04:56
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   just saying what i thought ... was i wrong? is that sarcasm in them quotation marks?   2002-06-11 16:19:36
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   BTW, Frank...the kid in the KORN tshirt is drinking yer fave.
Thats my subliminal way of saying... 'I luv you Frank Kozik...you $140,000 stud'... ;-) wink wink
  2002-06-11 15:57:21
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   'subliminal gayness' :-) That's good.
  2002-06-11 15:55:05
kozikSend kozik a message :   OK THANK GOD!
...cause for a minute I thought a lil subliminal gayness was creeping in. I'll try and work on that thing tonite,
  2002-06-11 15:52:29
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Exactly, Kraftie. Thats what I 'meant'. I thought it would be 'unifying'. Imagine that...   2002-06-11 15:50:38
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Frank, I wish there was some real cool deep reason. Real reason, I had this folder with dingbat personality images, and when I was doing this, on the news it said something about Liza Minelli getting engaged...and so there it is. Just a second thought thing. Freddy: Its funny. I really tried hard to be VERY objective with the image...and there were still people who accused me of being 'against designers'. 90% of people come to a poster already knowing what they want to see...based on the band, artist, music genre. I wanted to really kind of let it be a touchstone for more discussion. Didnt know Id get beat down in the process...
  2002-06-11 15:49:22
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   just read all the comments here ... it is unifying because it shows us how petty these arguements are ... its not whose better, it's how we can learn to agree to disagree. its about learning from one another new things that we would have never seen because we are stuck in our own little illo/designer world.   2002-06-11 15:46:17
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   just read all the comments here ... it is unifying because it shows us how petty these arguements are ... its not whose better, it's how we can learn to agree to disagree. its about learning from one another new things that we would have never seen because we are stuck in our own little illo/designer world.   2002-06-11 15:46:06
freddySend freddy a message :   i wondered if some of the issues that this poster raised would ever be discussed again. I guess they have been in little bits and pieces spread all over.   2002-06-11 15:42:59
kozikSend kozik a message :   Hey Jermaine-why Liza Minnelli?   2002-06-11 15:41:48
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ive never seen this before. could you ship this out to me STAT!
you are one funny motherfucker jermaine!
  2002-06-11 15:38:03
Timothy J.Send Timothy J. a message :   Yea, I know what you mean kolfacekilla. What was cool was how later on Jermaine and Art Chantry had some of the most interesting interchanges that Ive seen on this site and a lot of their debates were expounding on some of the same thoughts first raised in this thread. This is still my hands-down favorite Jermaine poster.   2002-04-15 14:00:01
kolfacekillaSend kolfacekilla a message :   another cool thing about this site, in that i'm newer here than most, stumbling across old discussions on posters. a person could read this stuff for hours, its insane. i haven't even started on most of the older forums. gigposters: the book.   2002-04-15 13:47:25
domoniqueSend domonique a message :   Yea, i can see both lines of thought. Very cool thread on this poster. I like it. Im not so sure the artist wasnt TRYING to rattle some feathers with this. if so, it worked!   2002-03-08 10:50:19
REPLIKASend REPLIKA a message :   Reading Art Chantry's thoughts about this poster again over in the forums, I wanted to look at this again. I can kind of see how Art can say that it pushes the whole cliquish, elite mentality of some poster art. I dont agree, but I can see how someone could see it that way and their observations would be just as fair as mine. Thats why I think this poster is so good cuz its happening on several levels while it masquerades as a 'simple' poster. In all respect to Art, this poster says the 'opposite' to me. It shows how stupid taking sides or getting into cliques is because theres no 'winner' in the conversation depicted. The girl and the boy both make good points and its sort of left to the viewer. Thats why I think and why others on the site thought it was pretty brilliant, cuz it doesnt take sides and its so ambiguous. The whole idea that its a concert poster, or supposed to be one, opens up a whole different topic about why these posters are done. I wish Jermaine would come on here and tell us what he was thinking and what he meant to say but I kind of like the fact that it can mean different things. I wont call Art Chantry's observation 'wrong', but I dont want anyone discrediting MY take on this poster.   2002-03-08 10:46:39
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   Uncle charlie your WHO poster is awesome i love it. one of those ideas that is so simple it transcends. nice.
see ya in the welfare lines....that still cracks me up.
  2002-01-18 12:45:11
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   Go Art Go! I happen to know the "promoter" feels the same way you do Mr. Chantry.. Right on the money my dear friend.. As for Chester, take some blood pressure medicine will you???? Jeez.. You people are so serious it scares me..   2002-01-18 12:35:44
JGexSend JGex a message :   Yup, REPLIKA, mucho respect for those who speak with gentle words.   2002-01-17 21:28:54
REPLIKASend REPLIKA a message :   Hey Mistress :) I think a few folks didnt 'get' what old Art was saying. I just read all of this in the last 10 minutes, and Im weirdin' out! Thats why I say 'class', because both of those guys, EMEK and Jermaine, are REALLLLYYY calm and level-headed.   2002-01-17 21:19:11
JGexSend JGex a message :   Lure, I don't know EMEK personally, but I can vouch for the amount of class Jermaine has...
Jermaine, sorry I missunderstood a remark posted earlier. Let's just say I don't get it. I got your email... right before I deleted my entire ie program from my hd. Still working on that.....
  2002-01-17 21:12:45
REPLIKASend REPLIKA a message :   Great post, Cardoso. Way to play it, Jermaine. Dudes so cool and he doesnt even need to say anything, cuz the dudes done so much good work. I agree: 'class'.   2002-01-17 21:10:59
peter cardosoSend peter cardoso a message :   WOW! If some of you would spend as much time making your damn posters instead of talking about it so much you might get somewere.Jermaine does a shitload of work I don't think he sleeps EVER! As far as tring to get down on some of these heavy hitters,relax cause it's a stupid debate. Some of these guys like CHANTRY whom I personly admire have books written about them. Go ahead and say SO FUCKIN WHAT DUDE!!!that don't mean shit blahh blahh blahh .Guess what? it does.You can probebly count on two hands how many have there work published in book collections,Chantry,Kozik has two,coop etc.. a few but not many but it MEANS there are enough people beyond just poster geeks that like and respect there work to publish it in a major way.That says something,and it's a major accomplishment to be proud of. That does not mean everything they say is gospal but it does deserve some attention. Would the strokes dig this? I dunno, I was hired by them to do the poster I did,and it went over well and It's one of the first silkscreen posters ever done for the guys, the other early one was also done by me when they opened for GBV,do good work and bands and managers will remember so it all goes around in a big happy circle.Do good work stand by it,fit the bands idea and sound,make sure the band and the fans are going to like it,thats the point. Sure I do it for me,cause I love the poster and silkscreen medium but not ONLY for me.Thats bullshit, why waste money and time in this medium unless you want attention from it.I don't mean fame, I mean attention to get hired in the future and get paid to do what you like.Whatever, thats my two cents.   2002-01-17 20:52:27
lureSend lure a message :   jermaine and EMEK: you boys got class! i mean it.   2002-01-17 20:01:34
goochSend gooch a message :   Heee! I decided to show this site to a friend just now--can't believe this is STILL going on! God, Emek, where were you 12 hours ago when we needed you (probably working...unlike the rest of us losers)? Thanks for capping this one. Geeeeez.   2002-01-17 19:59:40
EMEKSend EMEK a message :   OKAY- STOP i was not going to say anything, i was trying to give a compliment earlier, but it seems my name got tangled up in this.. i merely used the word "clip art" because that was the terminology that someone else at gigposters was using, i was not meaning to be insulting. i used to dream at night "why cant my work be as good as Art Chantry." a real pioneer in awesome design work. my suggestion earlier was merely to continue this now tiresome debate on a graphic level, "poster shout-outs" from artist to artist if you will, instead of all this misguided nitpicking... gotta love it.   2002-01-17 19:43:34
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   FORUMS is right. I started one...called what the hell is this? based on the comments chantry put out.   2002-01-17 15:06:14
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Rb, its not about letting stuff slide. Think: what could I have said in reply to Chantry thats going to make him all of a sudden fall in love with that poster? Its pointless. Some of you guys really, REALLY overestimate the power of these forum boards. Do you really think that Chantry changed the mind, lock-stock-and-barrel, of anyone who really likes this poster? Its all about opinion, and Im not going to get in a little war of words over a concert poster. Its a CONCERT POSTER. Thats all. Chantry and EMEK and KOZIK and JEFF WOD and ANYONE ELSE can say or feel however they want about what I do. I do what I do for ME. Because in this world, its one of the few things that keeps me sane. I dont work for any of the artists or collectors on this site. So, I dont owe a defense to anyone.
Please, theres no need to defend me or my work. Im not doing it. Thanks, but thats OK.
  2002-01-17 15:02:15
JGexSend JGex a message :   FORUMS!   2002-01-17 15:02:13
rbSend rb a message :   Damnit, Nolan..if WE 'want to keep infighting and name calling'? Your defending a man who just called us stupid, ignorant boobs, headed to the poor house. Please, brotha...dont disappoint me by not seeing the irony in that. NO ONE was calling ANYONE names here until the great Chantry let go. And you know what, I was sitting here praying that Rogers came back and let loose on him, but Jermaine's one fault that Ive seen on this site a few times is that he's too nice on these boards. So is EMEK. They let too much slide, you know. Its THEIR art! Those guys need to step up and say more, but they dont. Chantry didnt just attack that art, he attacked the person behind him. Damnit, he said the guy didnt have the 'artistic talent' to do a good job. Can you honestly sit there and say that you're cool with that?   2002-01-17 14:53:26
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   Hey guys, you missed the point of those long posts of his.
He doesn't do that much on the comment boards, so when he did, I thought it was pretty obvious he had something pretty worthwhile to say.
I did what I could to start a thread in the FORUMS about his words. If you don't wanna take part in that discussion and wanna keep infighting and name-calling...go right ahead, but I think it's time for that to be over in most of our eyes.
  2002-01-17 14:42:32
rbSend rb a message :   bye bye! And are ya really gonna stay away this time? Cuz when you blew outta here weeks ago, you sorta assured us you wouldnt be back, and here ya are. Lets see how long ya last before yer ego brings ya back. Majority of the posts on this poster from both sides were positive: if not on the technique, then the idea. But the mighty Chantry comes on and gives his glorified tirade about 'how it TIS' and that's supposed to be it. Whatever... Ive said it before and Ill say it again, yer a decent 'hack' artist (YOUR words), but get over yerself. Yer just another guy tring to make it happen like everybody else here.
Again, we're all 'ignorant boobs'. Hear that, Chantry fans? thats yer 'fearless leader'. Thats cool, tho..huh?
Im SOOOO over it.
  2002-01-17 13:55:58
JGexSend JGex a message :   At least I *think* I got it...   2002-01-17 13:53:25
JGexSend JGex a message :   lmao!! I got it.... :o)   2002-01-17 13:52:44
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   hey art, check the forums page in a little while, I was gonna start up something in there about the points you made in here.   2002-01-17 13:51:56
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i give up. i tried to create an interesting discussion about design/philosophy and all i get is "i like it" or "i hate it". i was right when i said yer a buncha ignorant boobs. good luck, yer gonna need it. see you in the welfare lines.
art chantry
  2002-01-17 13:49:23
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Chester...this is weird...but here goes: I was given permission by the venue to do this poster, but was not paid. I did this one on my own, fully expecting to reimburse myself with print sales, and for the following reasons: -This design was originally going to be used for a poster I was going to do directly for The Strokes. After talks with the band, they decided to go with the posters that RCA made for them to start off, and that we might do something later. THEN, Jeff Wood and I were going to use this art on a collaboration for a STROKES poster, but our schedueles just didnt mesh. So, theres this piece of artowrk just sitting around, and I wanted to use it on a STROKES show, and BAM, Im talking with a contact of mine at AERIAL THEATER in Houston, and shes asking me my opnion of whether I think the Strokes could sell out the place. I asked if I could do a poster for the show, cause I had a design all ready, (plus, I wanna pad my STROKES 'folio' so that the next time I talk with the bands mgmt. there are a couple physical pieces Ive done for them) and she said fine. So, I did it, gave the venue a small stack of em (yes, they are hanging up in certain stores around town to promote the show: so, um, it IS a promo poster), and have a stack for The Strokes, too...who are already into my work (based on the one I did last year for them). So, Ill see em, hand em these, and try to get those 'talks' re-established. That's it, Chester. Now... why?   2002-01-17 13:02:43
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   Chester, it seems pretty apparent that he paid for it himself, and just got permission from the promoter.   2002-01-17 13:00:26
ChesterSend Chester a message :   Dammit!! Why won't you tell me who paid for this damn thing? All I want to do is to call them up and give them a big sloppy french kiss.. Mostly to THANK them for this brilliance we have all been blessed to witness... God Bless...   2002-01-17 12:55:57
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   OUCH! I really have got some work to do! Well, EMEK says the poster is 'awesome' and Chantry says it 'represents all that he hates'. Two different opinions from two artists who's output I respect. I think that sums it up, really. 2 folks can see the same thing totally different, which is why I say dont get all bummed out if youre stuff is 'critiqued' on here. One personal opinion is NOT going to make or break your vision, what it is you were attempting or not attempting or whatever. Yep, this one IS for sell..and I guess whenever I cant sell enough of these things to pay for the print run, then Ill really be screwed. And if my attempt at artwork and selling of the same makes me 'what's wrong' with the poster field, well, line me up in your cross-hairs and blast away. Because I make artwork for ME. Im fortunate that many others dig it, but they all know where I stand. I make no apologies about what I do and make no allusions about what I am. Im a 'poster artist'...or 'bad-print artist' (depends on your point of view). Im not out curing cancer, or saving little abused children, or fighting the Taliban. Most of the artists and people who know me can tell you who my biggest critic is: good ol' yours truly. It's a beautiful thing, tho: you don't have to buy this trash if you dont want it. And Ive gotten harsher crit on my work from some pretty heavy hitters. Gave me a little hurt ego...maybe a stress headache, or two. But im still here. And any other artists would be...and will be. What a great objective lesson, unfortunately, at my expense: EMEK praises it/ Chantry hates it. Doesn't that really say more about the wide array of opinions from similarly talented people? It says more than all these arguments, and everything.   2002-01-17 12:45:59
lureSend lure a message :   i took this as an art print, not a poster. it works on THIS audience. it captured the essence of the debate that's been going on here. and it was, i felt, left to interpretation where jermaine actually stood on the issue.   2002-01-17 12:45:21
ChesterSend Chester a message :   I don't need to explain a godamn thing, I'm CHESTER goddamit!! ANd I want to know who PAID for this damn work of genius!! I mean who picked up the goddamn phone and called this tub of love and asked him to produce this commentary of highschool politics under the guise of a rock poster to promote the godamn show... WHO???   2002-01-17 12:43:52
ChesterSend Chester a message :   well I just think this is the greatest godamn rock poster ever....EVER!!! And Jermaine you still didn't answer my question as to who PAID you to do this awesome print of love.. The band or the promoter? You said you obtained "permission" from the promoter? Does that mean the band has no clue that this was even done? And if you only obtained permission from the promoter does that measn you just bully your way around doing posters for people, forcing your posters on these poor people? Just what the hell is going on here? I thought all these posters were legitamite art gigs? Do you mean to tell me this is all a SCAM!!!! I think i'm going to go kill myself, I'm so upset.. How could you let me down Jermaine, HOW???   2002-01-17 12:34:51
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i disagree with you a little bit, there che - i DISlike this poster for all of the reason i listed.
this poster represents everything i hate about the wonderful world of rock posters. it's an obsessive badly executed psuedo artprint masquerading as a legitimate alt-punk poster. it's attitude is cheezy and childish and elitist and speaks to no one but other cheezy elitist rock poster nerds. it ISN'T more artistic because the illustrator did what he wanted. he's not a strong enough editorialist or artist to pull off what he attempted. if anything it speaks to no one but himself and that is NOT a functioning definition of anything - especially not ART or DESIGN.
the problem here is that everybody on this site seem to think it's so important to be considered and artist - to the point of excluding "people who don't draw" as if cartooning is a superior form of creativity or something. it's ok to do this and not be an artist. in fact i think it's better when non-artists do it. this is first and formost a form of language/communication among the disenfranchised socio/economic groups that live in this subculture of alt-rock. what you say to EVERYONE and HOW YOU SAY IT is EVERYTHING!!!. expressing yer personal antagonism at fellow "artists" is nothing.
the bottom line is that THIS IS NOT ART. this is a design/language that pre-dates art - even pre-dates the written word. if you need to say something in this medium, say it. don't expect anybody to give a shit unless it speaks to them on a cultural level. this poster doesn't cut on that level.
besides - it was made to sell. that makes it an print, not aposter.
i think everyone would benefit from a rabid discussion on what it is everyone is actually doing. what the hell is this stuff - once and for all.
then kick some butt. we could do some amazing things...
art chantry
  2002-01-17 12:29:35
cheSend che a message :   Hmmm. I agree with Art Chantry. Thats why I love this poster, for all the reasons he mentioned. It's unashamedly nothing but what the artist intended and I still dont really know what that is. The artists previous statements in the comments of this poster seem to reveal that this was made for his own reasons and he does not care what we think. That is specifically why I chose to like this poster.
~che~
  2002-01-17 12:15:29
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   well... the point i'd like to make here is that this runs smack dab into the whole conundrum of rocl posters. is this an ad? an art print? an editorial cartoon? a doodle blown up and presented as advertising? does that make it clip art? is a cartoon panel disquised as a poster? is it for sale (first) and for advetrtising (second)? does that make it an artprint? or a poster? does the band or the promoter have legal rights to the money? the image? just what the hell is this thing.
for my money it's a bad and obscure editorial cartoon blown up like clip art with a whole lotta color dumped on it (to make it look commercial) to be sold as a souvenir at rock shows like an art print. i doubt i'll ever see one of these with a staple hole in it. therefore, it's not a poster (by my definition of a poster), but an art print. a poster is an ad that has actual short term function as advertising. the fact that it is sold aftermarket as an artifact shoul have no bearing on it's definition.
rock posters a a huge grey area legally, culturally, aesthetically, socially, and philosphically. they are a corruption of the punk ethos - they make all of us hacks in the worst sense of the term. the only true posters on this sight - the only posters with any integrity as posters are the old b&w punk items that had actual function of communication among a subculture i might include the other early psych/boxing/concert posters as well. since the advent of kozik these things are a perversion.
that's why i love them so.
art chantry
  2002-01-17 12:07:20
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I agree che.   2002-01-17 11:42:49
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   I thought Emek's comment was really good too...I hope someone takes up the idea.   2002-01-17 11:42:19
cheSend che a message :   Regarding what EMEK said, I do think it might be interesting and fun to see a flip-side of this poster from the other perpective. Its a shame that his words got taken out of context into an argument, and no one seemed to comment on his great idea.
~che~
  2002-01-17 11:37:38
tornadoSend tornado a message :   And, lets see. This piece by Jermaine Rogers. Well, utilyzing the GIGPOSTERS ANALYZATION PROCESS ... Id say that this one 'werks' for 3 different reasons. -The star on the shirt is perfect. It's obviously a star. Take notice, people: THIS is how you draw a star. -Again, band name spelled correctly. THAT always helps. -Note the earrings in the guys ears. '2' earrings, not just one. This 'balances' the piece.
My verdict- another winner. I 'feel' it, on so many levels.
  2002-01-17 09:15:27
tornadoSend tornado a message :   Yea, Mistress. :) I HAVE grown that much: the rhetoric that has seeped onto this site USED to be irritating. Now, I just let em talk. Im actually laughing out loud: 'I' made it personal? Sweet Jesus on the mountain top... Ive been on this site for a while, and it NEVER got personal until certain people came on and begin feeding peoples artwork into the 'breakdown machine'. And Nolen, I dont think Art was talking about 'design' when he said some people need knowledge real baaaad. Nope, that's not what I think he was talking about, and I think everybody picked up on what he WAS alluding to, except for the guys he was mainly talking to. Now THAT, sir, is funny.   2002-01-17 09:04:18
lureSend lure a message :   the fact that i can't type is pathetic as well.   2002-01-17 09:03:49
lureSend lure a message :   this is so fucking patheic.   2002-01-17 09:02:32
JGexSend JGex a message :   Tornado - :o)   2002-01-17 08:35:19
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   it's a shame you can't keep it about the work. it's a shame you let someone get under your skin for some reason and you make it personal. it's not polite and it's kind of silly.
how can you be more tolerantly opinionated then to say: it SOUNDS a BIT insulting. how much more minced to the words have to be?
  2002-01-17 08:32:33
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   hey Tornado, I realize I don't know all I need to know about design and I'm sure several of the other more 'designer' types (seince people are into distinguishing here) on here would admit the same. To say you've learned it all is to speak like a fool. I'l be learning till the day I die. But maybe he was also speaking to some of the other people who need to learn a thing or two still.   2002-01-17 08:30:21
tornadoSend tornado a message :   Yes, radio...chill. Every message board online has one or 2 guys who are regulars that everyone kinda doesnt like...at least the majority of folks on the board dont like em. And the board knows it, the admin. knows it, THEY know it...and thats why they come back...Particularly to be 'different'. It's irritating, yes...but after theyve been around a couple weeks, you get used to it and kinda just let 'em talk. Believe me, it wasnt always like this, here. I remember when we used to have 'constructive criticism'. When Chantry was here, he set a good example in opinionated tolerance. Its a shame lots of his fans are different. The really funny thing is that he was talking about a LOT of THESE guys in his last post: they just dont know it. I love how he said they needed to hit there art books/art schools again cause they need the knowledge baaaad. They didnt even get it.   2002-01-17 08:24:16
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   YEAAAHHHH GOOCH!!!!!!!   2002-01-17 08:03:21
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   radio, chill. its a open forum. that's the point. discussion. i don't have a problem with ANYONE. in the context of this poster and the following remarks, it sounded (and i purposely worded it that way - so no one would get all yell-y - but it didn't work)
AM NOT! Are too! Am not! are too! i even argue with myself.
  2002-01-17 08:02:48
goochSend gooch a message :   Yeah *yawn* let's just keep the comments to a fascile nature. I don't want to be challenged. Everybody's a winner!   2002-01-17 08:01:15
drowningcreekSend drowningcreek a message :   Nothing wrong with clipart, great to bastardize, but I love illustrations. The tighter executed tthe better.
Emek, interesting idea. Maybe one of these guys will attempt it.
jermaine makes a great point on this piece...each person sees art a different way..
PS: clip art can be a crutch. I know one artist that used to do killer ink drawings. Nothing fancy, more like old tattoo flash. Then he discovered clip art and it became his life. It became a quicker solution, then a crutch until now he is lost without the latest collection. That's just sad...
I spend so much time doing layout and final type prep I hardly have time to draw anymore and I made a vow that this year I would spend more time pushing a pencil as well as a squeegee.
Jermaine cranks out illustrations like there is no tomorrow. I guess he could have stuck a monotone piece clip art on matching paper and called it poster, but that's not his style.
Did you guys know Jermaine is totally bald from pulling his hair out trying to come up with these ideas? Now I call that sacrifice.
Luv ya J....
  2002-01-17 08:01:15
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   'clip-art' sounds slightly insulting.   2002-01-17 07:45:20
EMEKSend EMEK a message :   oh shi- did i say that out loud? (tm) !   2002-01-17 00:46:35
EMEKSend EMEK a message :   My 2 cents? This poster is very clever and awesome. now lets see who is going to make a parallel universe poster where the clip art is critiquing the illustration...   2002-01-17 00:45:08
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Thanks for your kind words, by the way. Is this poster 'good'? I think so. Is this poster 'the best ever'? Far from it. Will this poster ever be 'topped'? Um, I think it HAD been before I ever drew it. Thanks though :)   2002-01-15 13:20:05
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   I obtained permission from the promoter to do this one. As to your other questions: -Yes, the guy in the poster drunk bottles of rogaine. He is currently in a rehabilitation facility being treated for an addiction to such. -The girl pictured is, indeed, missing her bottom lip. It seems the cherry flavored lip gloss she wore as a girl was very delicious..and one day, while taking a nap, she inadverdently chewed her bottom lip off.
It was sad.
  2002-01-15 13:15:45
ChesterSend Chester a message :   Just curious of course...I mean this is the best poster I think that has EVER been done.. How could anybody top this..Did the guy in teh grey shirt down a bunch of Rogaine or something. And where is the bottom lip on the girl?   2002-01-15 13:09:52
ChesterSend Chester a message :   Jermaine, who paid you to do this poster? The Strokes or the promoter?   2002-01-15 08:07:41
BasilSend Basil a message :   Please say this is screenprinted. If it's not, its still cool, but it would seem kind of wasted on an offset format. How big is it!?   2002-01-14 15:38:40
SpeedSend Speed a message :   way to suck up to the site jermaine you rock!   2002-01-14 15:36:52
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   and inside the poster is subliminal messages.. jermaine isnt telling the whole story.. it says "buy this poster buy this poster"....
also it is directly supporting an underground movment to make sure all posters are illustrations and no graphic design..
jeez how could you possibly miss it.. its so obvious!!
its a huge conspiracy and jermaine is smart not to cop to these subliminal messages as its a federal offense :)
god for artschool students you are very slow..
ps. this is a joke , please we dont need another 15 posts picking over this stupid ditty i wrote..
peace all! go eagles!!! fuck the chicago bears!
  2002-01-14 15:12:05
lureSend lure a message :   i didn't see it as unifying at first, but in the end that's how i the most telling part to me was the title of the piece.
the fact that it's for an actual show makes it all the better.
it riminds me of someone i once knew. ernest mills.
  2002-01-14 11:50:20
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   smartass :)   2002-01-14 11:03:03
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Uniying you and me, Vibranium. I love you.   2002-01-14 10:54:13
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   unifying who? Illustrators and designers? PS - where can i get the cool shirt? (gray-longsleeve w/ black star?)   2002-01-14 10:52:49
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   I think if you really look deeper, its not about casuing a debate at all. Quite the opposite.
I thought it could be quite 'unifying'.
but, thats me.
  2002-01-14 10:01:15
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   as a post i think it's smart and subversive.
i'm not sure i want to be drawn into a pointless debate over a 'fake' poster.
as a post on this site perhaps its pointing out the confusion between fine art and graphic design.
  2002-01-14 09:58:43
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   There's even a poster artist pictured in this poster... They know who they are...   2002-01-14 09:52:15
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Well, to answer your question about whether this is for a real show, it is. The Strokes are indeed playing the Aerial Theater in Houston on Jan. 24th. I wont say anything about what I was 'trying to say'...cuz thats for me to know and you all to decide for yourselves. I will say that I wanted to address as many of the questions about form as I could...questions that have been raised on this site. GIGPOSTERS.com influenced this poster very much. The fact that the venue information is not as 'directly' presented is just another 'question' Im addressing: is this primarily a 'concert poster' advertisement that just happens to be a place for me to showcase my artwork...or is it about my artwork first and the info. comes second? All issues we've debated. Dont look at this as my direct statement on ANYTHING, cause Im not going to play along... :)   2002-01-14 09:47:18
lureSend lure a message :   i may be wrong, as i often am, but jermaine might just keep it to himself and let us take it anyway we want. this is what art is supposed to do. make you think.   2002-01-14 08:59:29
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   i'd like to second chachichi's inquiry.   2002-01-14 08:02:10
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   HA! I agree what did the strokes ever do to us...why drag them into it. Heh, heh.   2002-01-14 08:01:31
Nolen StralsSend Nolen Strals a message :   Yeah, this might make a good shirt for a convention, coz it is pretty funny and captures so much of the tlak on here lately (including my own I think), BUT PLEASE dont' ahve the Strokes on it...just a personal taste thing...   2002-01-14 07:56:07
cheSend che a message :   I am trying to imagine what he was thinking when he did this artwork. Or what statememnt was he making, if any at all. I dont want to break it down too much as said below but Im hungry to know if this is anti-design, anti-illustration, or pro- everything. Heres where this site can be helpful- Jermaine, what were you supporting/ condemning here? Or is it just observation? I love this. Hopefully this one will be available signed and numbered. But dont be down on the teddy bears! I love them :(   2002-01-14 07:36:32
JGexSend JGex a message :   If we ever get to have a gigposters convention, this should be the t-shirt art.
Yeah, don't tell Jermaine he's brilliant... wouldn't want him to get a big head or nuttin!!
  2002-01-13 17:50:16
lureSend lure a message :   ok, ok, maybe "brilliant" is overstating it, but it works so well.   2002-01-13 16:52:56
JGexSend JGex a message :   rotflmao...   2002-01-13 07:22:59
r0ckhardmanSend r0ckhardman a message :   art imitates life imitates art... yay waitin for the oprah poster art special now...   2002-01-13 06:44:18
lureSend lure a message :   i'll track down your address and send you a melvins poster. maybe a trade?
when i first saw this poster, i was taken back. it felt very slanted on the illustrator side of the debate. but, then again, i'm a designer. it seems that the designers are the newcomers to this genre and it's being resented by some. but, jermaine adds (possibly totally tongue-in-cheek) "the next great art movement: embrace it." giving me the impression that he is accepting of it.
jermaine, whereever you stand on the subject, you fucking rock for capturing this in the medium in which the debate is happening. it's fucking brilliant.
  2002-01-13 06:01:43
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   thanks lure, i like the poster , but that is just my feeble mind :)
but thats been alot of the comments this past week.. just as usual playing around, im a sucker for almost all artwork!!
ps saw that melvins poster.. gotta have one!
  2002-01-13 05:56:08
lureSend lure a message :   lol...very funny post, philarts! it does play to both sides of the debate.   2002-01-13 05:53:23
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   wait a minute jermaine is an illustrator and a guy, and the poster he is slaggin on is a graphic design poster... !!! jermaines a jerk!!
wait no, the girl is totally respecting graphic design and making a good point.. and she is making fun of his teddy bears in earlier posters!!!!!jermaine is cool!!
wait! he is saying that all poster artists arent artists!! jermaine is an asshole!!
wait, that was just a joke!! jermaine is funny!!!
hold on i have a problem the kid in the poster looks to young to go to a concert!! jermaine is condoning kids being out late past curfew!! how irresponsible!!!
wait the kid in the poster is wearing a koRn shirt, koRn and the strokes dont fit togther, jermaine didnt research the band to make the kid fit the poster!!!!!! if the kid wore a shirt for BUILT TO SPILL it would be a better poster.. jeez, how stupid jermaine!!! the whole poster is ruined.. you must know the band inside and out, and koRn ruins the poster!!
wait, its cool, but if he used a smaller font and a lighter colour green the poster would be much better!!
i get the poster, but does it help sell tickets to the show! what is this? the poster has to pop out to the common man on the street..
no it doesnt!! it would draw you in!! dummy!! genius jermaine!
and making fun of metal heads, that is just wrong.. an aritist has to be politically correct at all times!! jermaine is a loose cannon! hes a baaaaaaaaaad man!!!
ok, im tired now... :)
its a cool poster, i dig it big time...
was making fun of some comments i saw earlier in the week..
just soak it in and enjoy! its a great poster, and i enjoy it, if you dont that is life... :)
  2002-01-13 05:43:07
lureSend lure a message :   maybe you all should embrace it.   2002-01-13 05:21:14
Steve HSend Steve H a message :   ho ho ho nice one brother..   2002-01-13 05:17:49
JGexSend JGex a message :   Hey Jermaine, isn't this the one you did about 4 months ago that you & Jeff were going to use for the 40 Watt gig?   2002-01-12 21:50:59
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Jermaine,
who is the purple shirt guy flipping off? don't think I didn't notice that shit bro!! Haha!!!
  2002-01-12 21:38:20
JGexSend JGex a message :   lol! It's an 80's thing. I'm old... :o)   2002-01-12 21:34:21
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   O.k.... I am going to say that not only have I never worn spandex, but I am pretty sure I wouldn't consider any band that did to be 'true' metal. VH1 might consider all the hair bands metal, but I certainly don't
But hey I'm sure looked greeeeaattt in that spndex ;) Hehehe
  2002-01-12 21:08:17
JGexSend JGex a message :   dood.... I still have spandex from the 80's..... :o)   2002-01-12 20:59:14
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   See all the metal has affected my spelling
meatle = metal... eh, yeah, whatever
  2002-01-12 20:48:33
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Oh! I see cheap shots at the meatl heads...thats great..I see hoe it is now Judy!
HeHe...
  2002-01-12 20:40:42
JGexSend JGex a message :   btw, no offense meant to metal heads!! I have Ratt cds...   2002-01-12 20:28:47
JGexSend JGex a message :   You know, when those long haired metal heads in leather jackets have to hold up both hands in the classic rock finger formation... when one hand just isn't enough.   2002-01-12 20:26:03
lureSend lure a message :   wow. you really lost me with that one, mistriss.   2002-01-12 20:16:01
JGexSend JGex a message :   rotflmaopimp!! Dude, too much metal fer one hand!!
(that's a 2 handed devil' horns, it's a visual...)
  2002-01-12 19:53:55
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   ???   2002-01-12 17:46:01
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Hahaha!!! Jermaine..... dude your an asshole.... Hehehe.. I love it.The font on the Strokes poster is a nice added touch.
I want one of these... because I like the Strokes and because it will always remind me of this point in time... brilliant.
  2002-01-12 17:29:15
lureSend lure a message :   scha-wing!!! i believe this dagger is yours, jermaine.   2002-01-12 17:28:07
REPLIKASend REPLIKA a message :   Boy Kendra, I like this one too. Talk about a relevant topic for a poster. How big is this?   2002-01-12 17:16:30
BlueJellyBeanSend BlueJellyBean a message :   Goofy Teddy Bears R.I.P.   2002-01-12 16:33:41
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   i'm confused.   2002-01-12 16:17:24
KJSend KJ a message :   JERMAINE!!! I'm in love! I'll take ten, please.   2002-01-12 16:12:53
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