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RADAR : |
Random classic. |
2008-03-02 11:11:27 |
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ricv64 : |
still rocks ! |
2006-10-03 18:03:27 |
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HYNES : |
fvcking great |
2006-09-27 17:01:07 |
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msaputo : |
How did I miss this? Good discussion. |
2006-03-14 23:09:42 |
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ricv64 : |
one of my favorite posters, have a really groovy one at home |
2006-02-17 06:42:45 |
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wally : |
[QUOTE]But most music scenes are full of dorks[/QUOTE]
haha...totally! |
2006-02-17 02:17:26 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
What an awsome read. Lots of good ground covered by many people here.
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2006-02-17 01:12:43 |
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ricv64 : |
awesome design,great print job.hores latitudes or what was on the mind of Ishmael |
2005-06-22 20:51:44 |
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ajosephb : |
this really speaks to me |
2005-04-04 11:24:59 |
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ferg2001 : |
this rules in person. |
2005-01-01 11:43:57 |
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nemotron : |
now ive got it, and its framed and i love it that much more. thanks jason for blessing the universe with this print
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2005-01-01 01:22:32 |
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nemotron : |
207 - i still love it. |
2004-11-18 15:04:17 |
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Pedini : |
still one of my favorite posters of this year |
2004-11-18 13:50:40 |
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fauver : |
thank you randomizer for blessing e with this kick ass poster on this such a slow day |
2004-09-03 17:18:15 |
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modrocket10 : |
I own this now and it's great in person. take it for a spin and you'll love it too. |
2004-08-23 20:13:09 |
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nemotron : |
did i mention this poster is fucking awesome? it is. fuck all yall. |
2004-08-23 19:56:28 |
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ferg2001 : |
200 :dance: :dance: |
2004-08-23 19:18:21 |
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matdaly : |
hey jason, this is really beautiful. my only critique would be that the type should have been hand inked as well. but really, nice work, as usual. |
2004-08-23 18:04:15 |
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whiteyhouston : |
I think Jason is the Leonard Nemoy of metal |
2004-07-20 12:36:09 |
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jasoncross : |
i just had some sweet salsa with chips...it wasnt sweet in taste...but sweet because it tasted so good...i am having more. |
2004-07-20 11:56:45 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Dude...I just had the fucking best Breakfast Burrito. Bacon, Sausage, Hash Browns, good salsa, eggs...
It was so fucking good. I'm full but I totally want to go get another. |
2004-07-20 11:54:44 |
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jasoncross : |
mdaines - i had no problems with mikes comments...i was interested in his opinion and wouldnt want him to just tell me its good...I honestly give a shit about his opinion...and i had told him a day or so before to be looking out for this. thanks for the support though...but mike is really coming from a good place and i nvere took any of his comments as negative, just constructive. |
2004-07-20 11:53:12 |
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jasoncross : |
just got back from giving these to the promoter and he fucking shit himself with glee. luckily he wears depends. |
2004-07-20 11:51:06 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
Oh, and this got my attention becasause Jason is a friend of mine and I generaly take the time to see what he is up to. I like his posters most of the time. |
2004-07-20 11:48:23 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
mdaines,
Lets just say that the metal scene is what it is. If you feel like you can change it, be my guest. |
2004-07-20 11:47:31 |
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kozik : |
did you pierce your whang? |
2004-07-19 23:15:11 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
I tried to be part of the scene. Bought all the records and magazines... |
2004-07-19 22:54:46 |
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mdaines : |
Mxfluo: I guess I call it "insecure" because you mention metal kids not caring about artwork and imagery, yet you harp on how posters such as this that don't embody the aesthetic will somehow HURT such a scene. I kind of got the impression that there is supposed to be this feeling of needing to CARRY THE TORCH in terms of AESTHETICS, which is fucking ridiculous.
I think it's clear (and it has been my observation, in Calgary) that for dedicated scenes, the type of imagery used in a poster doesn't affect things much at all. People are looking for a name, or names connected to those they know, etc. This poster sort of doesn't satisfy that, since the information is very small.
But if this IS important, what else do you call the idea (or the concern or perhaps the fear) that a poster such as this will reflect poorly on a venue or a band? Is HERALDRY more important to the metal scene than others? Is the conformance of heraldry very important as well?
As an aspiring poster-maker, I kind of have this idea that it's important to make INTERESTING POSTERS. Is this NAIVE of me? I'm part of a scene here in my city, and the BEST compliments I get have been people saying that a few of the posters I've made look very different from anything else they've seen put up as advertising for shows. Then again, I'm active in a niche (the open promotion collective that I'm part of) that seems to be willing (within logical and logistical limits) to give any band (and most any kind of band) who asks a show. There is a fairly wide variety, I think.
I must note that here, the (sometimes Christian) hardcore (I hear what I'm talking about is actually called "metalcore" or something) bands that sometimes play on bills that have nothing else similar will draw a lot of kids from "that" scene, no matter what the poster looks like.
And finally, I must say that I don't really know why this poster WOULDN'T attract any person's attention. I mean, it attracted yours, Mxfluo. You have the first comment. |
2004-07-19 22:48:23 |
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EdGossage : |
I just found out that cross used MY ink for the last two colors.... thats so metal its not even funny. |
2004-07-19 22:00:35 |
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birdsandrabbits : |
i see pandas in the top of the smoke. me seeing pandas means this is great! |
2004-07-19 19:57:33 |
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jasoncross : |
Kendra - i tried a bombing military thing...skull, murder scene shit and it all felt so obvious and just without effort...and i just didnt feel like it was it.
i did this with way more black and it just killed and composition...
so after many different looks and angles this one got worked out of seeing some ocean paintings and i went with it and felt it... |
2004-07-19 19:23:25 |
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modrocket10 : |
I really respect Fisher cause he isn't scared to speak his mind.
I love seeing both sides and Mike brings that. I may not always agree with him but that’s what makes things interesting.
Still I like this poster and think a lot of others will too once they hold the screenprinted goodness in their hands. |
2004-07-19 19:22:20 |
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jasoncross : |
mike...i really appreciate your comments and truely have digested them. dont change that ...it is needed...I feel if this only served to crete a platform for debate then it has done a good job.
i think more than anything the discussion has proven things are not black and white.
anyway...dont hold your crits back ever...you know i can take em and i hope you know I appreciate them. |
2004-07-19 19:16:13 |
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danieldanger : |
i aint reading all this.
i like it. fire in the snowy mountains. its just subtle, thats all. |
2004-07-19 18:58:52 |
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Casey Burns : |
this is the kind of discussion i really love reading on here. (the fisher/cross side of it). i'm siding with fisher on this one. this is a beautiful painting, and the subject matter is certainly appropriate for high on fire, but the execution is inappropriate. from ten feet away on a wall, it doesn't scream "viking funeral!!!"
it screams "beautiful impressionistic painterly screenprint with small text!"
it's okay though. i made a lame melvins poster once. didn't look half as good as this, but it just wasn't "melvins," you know? |
2004-07-19 18:53:15 |
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mike king : |
i like this
jason is the leroy nieman of metal |
2004-07-19 18:52:57 |
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MURPHY : |
attn:Mike Fisher
Please refrain from stating your OPINION from now on.
Everyone should play nice and ONLY post 100% positive comments on others work from now on.
Thank You in advance |
2004-07-19 18:42:37 |
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newseamus : |
[QUOTE]But most music scenes are full of dorks[/QUOTE]
truer words have never been spoken |
2004-07-19 18:40:29 |
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MaximumFluoride : |
"You really paint a DEPRESSING picture of the metal scene, MaximumFluoride. Is everyone really such an insecure dork? Sometimes I like such imagery as you speak of, but often it is VERY BADLY DONE.
Jason Cross, however, did not paint a depressing picture here."
Insecure? What did I say that was insecure? I am anything but that. I am simply stating what I know from years in the scene. Things people not in the scene might not know.
I agree plenty of that stuff is really poorly done. The thing is, those people LIKE it that way. They understand it. Thye don't think it looks bad. It is important to them that they can identify with something immedietly. If not.... it doesn't fit into thier scene. It's a pretty simple concept. It applies to EVERY scene in the world.
Are most metal scenesters dorks? yep. But most music scenes are full of dorks. It's just the way it is. Nothing special about it.
Funny how some simple conversation gets me called names. I don't recall calling anybody names in this thread. |
2004-07-19 18:38:23 |
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KJ : |
okay... seriously, a question to jason... pls share... what were some of your other ideas before you got to this one? |
2004-07-19 18:29:28 |
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Shawny : |
my friends and i had a discussion about his once. one of my friends called my gal (though not my gal at the time) 'kinda hot.' now, what he meant was 'very hot,' but he didn't want to come across overly crass. so yeah, i think richie likes you. |
2004-07-19 18:26:24 |
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KJ : |
:oops: i'm kidding of course |
2004-07-19 18:26:02 |
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KJ : |
you're "kinda" funny richie |
2004-07-19 18:22:52 |
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KJ : |
"kinda"? :lol: thats like saying |
2004-07-19 18:22:30 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
Not an issue Kendra. You're kinda hot so your opinion is always valid. |
2004-07-19 18:19:31 |
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Shawny : |
i don't have time right now to chime in on this one intellectually, but i'd just like to say right now that this is a gorgeous poster. |
2004-07-19 18:18:56 |
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KJ : |
:o sometimes i wonder if you guys would even think my opinion is valid... i've seen every poster on here since we started it day one and i still feel fucking insecure that i dont meet the validity quotients. |
2004-07-19 18:17:44 |
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RichieGoodtimes : |
You've never been a part of anything have you? |
2004-07-19 18:15:06 |
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mdaines : |
You really paint a DEPRESSING picture of the metal scene, MaximumFluoride. Is everyone really such an insecure dork? Sometimes I like such imagery as you speak of, but often it is VERY BADLY DONE.
Jason Cross, however, did not paint a depressing picture here. |
2004-07-19 18:12:45 |
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Beto Ramirez : |
This is great. Maybe poster of the next week... Saludos desde Mexico! |
2004-07-19 16:36:53 |
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jasoncross : |
these will be available after the show on the 8th of august...if you are interested in this email me and I will add you to my mailing list and make sure you have a chance to get one.
thanks agai for all teh feedback.
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2004-07-19 15:36:53 |
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table9 : |
i was going to read all the comments, but instead i'll just say that i think this poster is great and I want one for my wall. |
2004-07-19 14:32:52 |
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dennyschmickle : |
Geez. I go to the driving range for 3 hours and come back to find that not only do my irons need a lot more work, but that no one has fully resolved this situation.
I'm truly disappointed. |
2004-07-19 14:19:32 |
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DaniVachon : |
155 comments, holy christ... yeah, well i like it too. |
2004-07-19 14:14:04 |
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whiteyhouston : |
brown town: it's a roomy club once you get past the bouncers |
2004-07-19 13:57:41 |
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Cody Pomeroy : |
awesome...fine art piece right here
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2004-07-19 13:45:59 |
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perkins : |
"and richie..you where trucker caps, your not metal." :lol:
I like this poster. That's a pretty bad ass painting. I saw it as a volcano though.
I kind of agree with some of Max's points, but he's a hardcore fan & has much stronger feelings about it than I would. I don't really think the average fan is going to critique this that deeply. They may not give a shit at all. Every poster on this site is more or less an interpretation of the band by each individual artist. Jason's interpretation is pretty fucking striking, even if it may not be the favorite of some diehard fans.
I'm also one to try & shy away from the traditional stereotypical imagery & attempt something fresh, in my own style. Mike didn't like my Slayer poster either, & I totally understood where he was coming from. Slayer loved it though.
If HOF adds a keyboard player for their next CD, I guess we'll know this poster fucked them up. |
2004-07-19 13:38:07 |
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jasoncross : |
ferg...damn i wish i still had that Tick art...i spent hours on that fucker.
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2004-07-19 13:30:21 |
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jasoncross : |
you went somewhere fancy...i thought that was it but i may be wrong...or your just embarrased...why i have no idea.
glad your date went well though. |
2004-07-19 13:29:09 |
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ferg2001 : |
two words bro "brown town" |
2004-07-19 13:28:57 |
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kozik : |
we are just grateful you finally went out with a girl. |
2004-07-19 13:25:43 |
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standard : |
Damned proud. |
2004-07-19 13:23:23 |
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jasoncross : |
Carnegie Melon and Olympic swimming...tahts all i gots to say. |
2004-07-19 13:23:14 |
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kozik : |
we are all very proud of you Richard.
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