Speed, your ripping this guy up for using a great 15th century image. check your portfolio buddy, unless im mistaken you arent Dr. Suess. Just because you drew a nice little rendering of the Cat in the Hat doesnt mean the bumbeling feline is your intellectual property, and i think this certainly means that you lost some room to chew out this guy. Just because you blew out the contrast on some images (the race car, the rock) doesnt mean your above anyone else. I think connor used a great iamge to portray a great band (why you attacked the band i have no idea) and though im must say i dont enjoy the type treatment, i can say that it is alot better than most of the layouts on this site.
Now, im fully prepared for your reply to be an attack on some of the imagery in The Captains work, go ahead, Ive got nothing to hide or to apologize for... I have no qualms with your, nor connors use of imagery, i just think you need to check be clear that you arent doing the same thing.
What does calling someone on their lack of professionalism become being self righteous?
I'm not going to wade into a war of words over ethics with you. You seem to love enjoy the conflict.
Just realize that respect is earned and to earn respect you must give it in return.
Call that self righteous if you will, but it works for me.
Dear drowning creek,
Don't be so self-righteous, that's why I left the south in the first place. However, I have written a letter of apology to Jared, and encouraged him to keep pumping out the goods. All I want to do is push talent, but as Max says, "push, don't shove." Sorry for being a dickhead, it doesn't suit the site, your right. Apologies to anyone I offended.
Speed, dude you need to chill on the personal attacks.
Giving someone a critique whether good or bad , needs to be kept about the art, and not about the person, or where they are from. That has nothing to do about the piece being critiqued. having a modest style while critiquing is a must if you wish to be taken serious.
Acting like a professional will get you farther in this business than anything else, even your design or illustration skills.
That is the most important lesson any artist has to learn and often times it's hard, very hard.
We welcome your critiques, but do them from a constructive point of view or run the risk of people discounting your views due to a lack of professionalism.
Oh I know the photo. I had to map it out on a grid of fucking canvas. In fact, for the sake of argument, I would even call it lifted. I had to paint it (sharpie it) so I wouldn't feel dirty, but if you knew the band, gawd it was perfect. Good call though, I knew my past would sneak up on me at some time....at least it's not an ex girlfriend at the door with a little surprise.
wrong, but thanks for playing. While this is a famous photograph, I made a seven foot drawing of it for my friends in the corporate avenger. Only 3 of these exist, they are all over 7 feet tall, and I hand painted all three, but thanks for playing!
no, it really shouldn't matter where the image comes from. as long as it's not infringing on someone else's copyright. although i find it makes a piece a little extra special if the artist really created the art. not that either way is right or wrong. and i say that as someone who almost always lifts the art.
No, I went through that same debate 3 years ago. This guy from the "old days" was all like "if you don't pull it, iit ain't art". well sometimes funds are limited and all that shit, so you got no choice but to go to yer local print shop. I'm just not a fan of of stolen art. I'd rather see real conceptual effort put forth, and from going through yer posters, all I see is a guy who wants to walk around and say "I'm a poster artist". This is a cool flyer, way cool, but it is not (let me preface this) "in my opinion" anything close to art. Now stop being so fucking defensive and allow a little free speech.
like i said, no problem taking criticism from someone i respect. just cause you pull your own ink, your justified in being a prick?
i'm not gonna disgrace this great site with more of this 3rd grade bullshit. comment all you want, i'm glad you dont like my stuff. it validates it somehow.
Yes, I'm envious of a kid that steals art and makes posters for half ass bands in a half ass state at half-ass venues. Yer right, I'm nailed. How could I have been so blind.....soam I not allowed to have an opinion unless it's positive? I've made 200 posters in 3 years, I just thought I might be able to state what I thought. But as always on this site, it's bandwagon or bust.
ok, i make no bones about the fact i didnt illustrate it, i admit freely its "lifted/stolen", if i knew who made it i would have put their name on the poster, before mine.
i would never think of impact as a "rudimentary type face", its one of the strongest font i know, in MY OPINION, and sorry if i destroyed the integrity of it by waving it, sorry if its "lame". thats your opinion and like assholes, you know the rest.
I thought it looked better waved, TO ME it looked better. i didnt go to school for art, maybe thats obvious, whatever. i just like making things that look cool TO ME, and do what they are supposed to, promote the show.
again with the kinkos thing speed?
the kinkos that i know of dont have indigos, maybe they do in l.a. didnt i cover this already?
constructive criticism or green-eyed envy, havent i heard that before? (that doesnt apply to all comment posters)
For what its worth, regardless that the image may be from a stained glass circa 15 century, I think its a nice piece... Most art is derivitive from somewhere, as is most new music. You found a nice photo, added some text and voila... a piece very suitable to the band you were doing it for... what more can you ask? Nice job a.
Not a cold-hearted slam, I'm just wondering. It's a piece of stolen art. It's got rudimentary type faces warped in a kind of lame way, so there. It still looks cool, but whoever made it in the 15th century should probably get a little credit too. I will applaud Jared for picking one spooky ass piece of art, and I won't throw stones. When I first started making flyers, I used almost nothing but stolen or "found" art, so I'd be as guilty as Jared. But at what point is it your own art just cause you found it in a book somewhere and scanned it? I'm asking, is that art or is it theft? Not in a specific sense, it's probably a whole 'nother forum
So, and don't hate on me here, but you basically stole a piece of existing art, did some fairly lame type warping ala microsoft word 1984, and got it printed at Kinkos. You must be rich by now Jared. You could kick 50 of these pieces of "art" out everyday I bet!!
i print (my digitals) at Regent Digital here in austin. they have other locations in other cities, i'm not exactly sure where. i didnt take the picture, i'm not sure if i should say where i found it. maybe in an email.
Stained glass effect is totally full on..looks like it is being lit up from behind by hell's kitchen..what would go on behind a window like that? In the flesh, can you see traces of the glass under the letterin'?..that effect would give it a neat vandalised feel..a sticker placed on the glass! Perhaps I would have liked to see more of the glass imagery with those red/orange tones but no doubting the effect..here comes Mogwai to a venue near you soon!Don't you dare miss it!
being a big fan of the band, i thougt the image suited them well. i wish i could say that i illustrated it,but i cant. it actually is a stained glass piece from fairford, england, from the 15th century, entitled "Satan".