strange to see the controversial about fists/toy machine etc.
i made stickers with these fists like 8 years ago, simply copying toy machine ones cause i still skated at this time, liked templeton graphics and ha a record label called Spore ! records.
So i made the same fists as templeton did.
yep Chloe, writing on fists has alerady done many times. if i asked you if you are a toy machine fan is because if the way your fists are drawn. As JW Buchanan said, ed templeton and yours are really pretty the same drawing.
OK, I think we've successfully established the fact that writing/tatooing on the fingers between the first and second knuckles, and even EVEN the addition of fingers to facilitate longer words is not so much an "innovation" in design/illustration, but perhaps a play on the novel and mass-culture phenomenon that it is.
ed templeton just has a style that is pretty recognizable to people involved in skateboarding and the toy machine fist logo was a pretty widely used logo - decks, shirts, stickers, etc. i have the sticker on my cd player.
i like the added adjective to the poster a lot. i say extra words are the new birds.
afer checking out the toy machine website i must anounce the new list of what is off limits to all artists due to being copywriten by said site
- bright colors
please do not use any of these aformentioned elements least you be guilty of ripping off toy machine skateboard co.
on that note, i saw a kid the other day with a bunch of fresh (as in "new") sailor tattoos all over his arms. he even had "home" "sick" written on each knuckle in old sailor jerry lettering. oh yeah, and a spiderweb on his elbow.
i don't think he had been in prison or on a boat. funny considering all the dudes i knew who had been in prison always had the worst fucking un-romantic ball point pen tattoos.
i felt bad for the kid.
on another note. skateboard art is probably one of the biggest influences on my shit. i don't think that it's very easy to escape it's effect.
*falls off roof*
I just did a poster for Thee Moths with fists...and i've just seen this, i didn't add extra fingers though - i wrote the extra letter on the thumbnail(lofi). So I hear fists are the new birds...
my poster should be up here tomorrow under lucy and dave not that disco stu pays to advertise. I like this by the way!
I think Ed Templeton was the first to do extra (and fewer) knuckles, so's that the whole name of his company would fit on them.
There seems to be a big split between those who think that because Templeton is a cool, underground artist (though not really, I mean he just showed at the Palais de Japon in Paris, for fuck's sake) and that since the weird knuckles are his personal emblem, they're off limits; and those who think their re-use is a cool, neat reference to skater culture, sort of an in-joke that will bring people through the door.
I fall into the latter category, as I also liked Tyler Stout's take-off on the Toy Machine logo. I sort of think "What the hell," I mean, we see a lot of Bones Brigade-ish imagery and no one bats an eye. Besides, skateboards are cool.
My favorite "finger ink" was Sideshow Bob's tatoos in the Simpsons Cape Fear episode. Being as how cartoon people have only three fingers, they spelled "LOVE" and "HATE" using "LUV" and "HAT" (bar over the A).