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DESIGNER:
Dan Keezer  
VENUE:
The Bottom of the Hill
San Francisco
CA
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Dan Keezer  
2004-02-22 02:46:50
 
BANDS:
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Fuse, The
Mahjongg



Pretty Girls Make Graves Poster - The Bottom of the Hill, San Francisco - Dan Keezer



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kustomkittenSend kustomkitten a message :   I love it when I accidentally stumble onto ancient GP poster comment battles.
Hah! It's like a nerdy time machine.
  2009-01-02 12:05:32
danieldangerSend danieldanger a message :   you are on my wall. i love you.   2005-07-05 14:02:13
SWAMP SLUTSend SWAMP SLUT a message :   :bang: rocks   2004-03-07 00:44:46
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   Random good stuff....I like this. Too much salt is bad for you though.   2004-03-07 00:37:28
Casey BurnsSend Casey Burns a message :   dale said i sounded crazy yesterday, talking about my old roommate and that stupid commercial. sorry if i scared anyone.   2004-02-25 11:41:53
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   everyone knows she's bumpin' the nein.   2004-02-25 11:36:46
BHECKELSend BHECKEL a message :   My first thought was, "too bad this isn't a Chicago show" and if I had known about Jawbreaker's shirt design I would have thought, "too bad they aren't a Chicago band" Morton started here and still have their headquarters here.   2004-02-25 11:18:12
Casey BurnsSend Casey Burns a message :   do you think she's playing jungle on that boombox?   2004-02-25 10:40:04
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   "Your jambox is now his, by way of our actions"   2004-02-25 10:13:53
Dan KeezerSend Dan Keezer a message :   Thanks guys, I really do appreciate it.   2004-02-25 00:03:06
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   While I think this is a pretty trivial point to argue over... Aren't most of the discussions in the comments section of this site? I mean, when it comes down to it, everything is open to so much interpretation and perspective.
I was probably a bit harsh on Dan in my comments, but I just got rubbed a bit raw by something he posted here. Happens all the time, and I don't think it's necessarily the result of the discussion on art or advertising, but more on personalities. That stuff, you can take it or leave it, as is evidenced by every poster with more than a couple dozen comments on this site.
This one just hit close to home for me. I don't think the Jawbreaker t-shirt design is "obscure" to maybe 75% of the people who would be into this band. The kids who are paying their $10 or whatever to see PGMG are the same kids paying $30 for one of these t-shirts on ebay. It's in the same realm, and hence, I made my comparison from my own personal perspective. I mean, you don't put an image of Eddy on a Slayer poster.
So yeah... in the end, it's a completely worthless argument. It's not the end of the world. It's a fucking rock poster. Maybe some people won't see it the same way, but chances are, a lot of people will.
  2004-02-24 23:56:10
ZELIGSend ZELIG a message :   Reminds me of two things, that episode of X-files with the demon chick who fucks Bruce Campbell because she wants to conceive a demon baby. She drives off with her spawn and "I'm only happy when it rains" is playing on the stereo. The second thing it reminds me of is the three people I have met in my life who made recordings of rain. One was a couple my parents were friends with who just liked to fuck around with their recording equipment. The other two (one guy in college, one chick I met in Savannah) just had different tapes of rain and thunder they had made. The girl even took pains to make a recording under a shit roof (perhaps tin I don't know) at her grandmother's farm. Both of these people were exactley the types of personalities you would expect would do this (i.e. gloomy poet black clothes types).
I looked at this and thought it was just a clever play on the Morton salt girl as some wicked trollop who delights in misery. A pretty girl who makes an effort to cause her suitors discomfort and pain.
Worrying about this fucking Jawbreaker T-shirt seems pretty silly. It sounds like a matter of people having a little bit of trivia and assuming the knowledge of it is widespread when it really isn't. Half the people that have emailed or talked to me about my Citizen Kane/ White Stripes poster tell me how much they love the band but don't understand why I put Bob Hope on a poster. I've met people in college who don't recognize a drawing of Adam and Eve. I've had Jewish friends ask me who the statue of Moses is on my desk (he's fucking holding tablets). Generally, people aren't ever going to get any general knowledge reference in your posters, much less something as esoteric as an old t-shirt design. I don't think that was anywhere near Mr. Keezer's intent. I also think his play on the tagline is better.
These are fucking corporate logos, who cares who uses them when. Nobody has a hold on them. If Seripop does some fucked rendering of the Mobil Gas Pegasus, I'm not going to scream she ripped off Andy Warhol. I bought my Captain Sensible/ Coca Cola shirt and I thought it ruled, I didn't think "What a lame rip-off of Soul Asylum's Can't Feel the Beating tour shirt". Silly, silly arguement.
  2004-02-24 23:31:20
Dan KeezerSend Dan Keezer a message :   well, that tag didn't work, here it is clean:
http://www.fifteenpaintcans.org/jawbreaker/wallpapers/jawpaper%20800.jpg
  2004-02-24 23:01:01
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   can someone post a link to the jawbreaker image in question.. looked under the obvious.. jawbreaker.. not there.. ??   2004-02-24 22:57:00
Dan KeezerSend Dan Keezer a message :   holy shit this totally rules!
you guys should find each other and get in a fist fight. I'll take the bets.
I'd gamble on brendan cause his little icon guys got goggles.
By the way thanks for all the comments (you know, at the bottom of the page). And I apologize for posting 'fuck jawbreaker,' i've just been having a terrible day (underexposed a screen and found out halfway through a run.. fuck that.)
Alright, later. You guys try and be nice, I didn't mean to start any controversy.
-Dan
  2004-02-24 21:33:15
Dan KeezerSend Dan Keezer a message :   holy shit this totally rules!
you guys should find each other and get in a fist fight. I'll take the bets.
I'd gamble on brendan cause his little icon guys got goggles.
By the way thanks for all the comments (you know, at the bottom of the page). And I apologize for posting 'fuck jawbreaker,' i've just been having a terrible day (underexposed a screen and found out halfway through a run.. fuck that.)
Alright, later. You guys try and be nice, I didn't mean to start any controversy.
-Dan
  2004-02-24 21:32:29
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   For the record, I wasn't the one who got personal. Any "drama" was your fault.   2004-02-24 21:27:48
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   ha   2004-02-24 21:17:49
John ASend John A a message :   get a room :heart:   2004-02-24 21:17:15
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   DON'T MAKE ME STOP THIS CAR, YOU TWO!!!   2004-02-24 21:15:48
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   That's pretty funny. You're really brave making jokes about me like that.
You know what man? You win.
Do me a favor though, ignore me and I'll ignore you. You've obviouosly got nothing to offer anyway.
  2004-02-24 21:13:59
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   What are you going to do-
Give me legal advice?
  2004-02-24 21:11:44
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   You're really testing me dude, go take a break! :o   2004-02-24 21:11:01
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   Just for the record- I wasn't agreeing with Brendan.   2004-02-24 21:10:59
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   Agreed. I can't believe I'm involved in internet drama with Brendan Jordan :oops:
Too much beer tonight.
  2004-02-24 21:10:21
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Dude, you don't want to take me on as an enemy. You look really bad in this argument. Go calm down, drink some tea, take a nap and then reread this.
I wasn't gunning for you, and there is no reason to talk to me that way. I'll let it go, but it was uncalled for.
Calling me a moron! Dude, you don't even know me!
  2004-02-24 21:09:52
DeckerSend Decker a message :   yeah, like make her skirt shorter.   2004-02-24 21:09:24
Michael M. MotorcycleSend Michael M. Motorcycle a message :   whatever.   2004-02-24 21:08:04
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   Old argument... Done to death on here. Just because someone expresses their view, doesn't mean they think everyone else should hold the same one. I could care less.
I still think you're a moron. You stick your foot in your mouth constantly.
  2004-02-24 21:07:14
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   I would have liked this one if the image were redrawn. Same pose and everything, just make the image your own, ya know.   2004-02-24 21:03:38
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   No I wasn't, I was pointing out that you were stating an opinion. You were saying it as though you are the end all be all of artistic value.
It's not my fault you're reacting this way. I apologise if I came across as talking shit, because it sure as hell seemed that that's what you were doing.
  2004-02-24 21:02:23
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   I'm not the one trying to instigate bullshit.
I had an opinion/crit- I expressed it. You're just trying to start shit.
  2004-02-24 20:59:55
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Grow up.   2004-02-24 20:58:08
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   I pretty much just lost any respect I had for you Brendan. Not there was much to begin with, and not that you even care.
If you wanna shit talk- have something to back it up.
  2004-02-24 20:56:59
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Opinions are nice, aren't they?   2004-02-24 20:54:25
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   That first sentence should read-WASN'T   2004-02-24 20:41:01
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   Whatever. I was trying to say- "This guy ripped off a Jawbreaker design!!!" because, let's face it, we all rip something off here and there. Just pointing out the similarities.
It's far more irritating to have to read:
"I mean really, she's carrying a boombox, that's brilliant."
It's really not, and either is this poster.
Besides, "When it pains, it roars" is far more clever than "When it plays, I record". If you can't figure that out...
  2004-02-24 20:40:37
JoltedJoelSend JoltedJoel a message :   I have the shirt. I like the image enough to see it used again. always liked the colors too.   2004-02-24 18:51:12
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   I thought about the disposable salt shakers we used to take on camping trips as a kid. They used to get all caked u inside by the end of the week due to the humidity.   2004-02-24 17:51:43
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   i'm from texas. i thought of the shirt immediately, because i had it. i saw a dude in my neighborhood wearing it after i gave it to the neighborhood goodwill.   2004-02-24 17:42:56
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I live in SF, am familiar with Jawbreaker and had no idea there was a mystical connection between the Morten Salt girl, Jawbreaker and this poster.
So I guess I'm the 10th person.
I haven't seen a real live emo kid in SF in many years. Maybe once in a while a flock of them will descend on the Bottom of the Hill when they leave their parent's houses in Santa Rosa, but I never see them.
  2004-02-24 17:38:19
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   My question is "why is the MAKE given the emphasis?" For me this is just WAYYYYY too easy   2004-02-24 17:25:17
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   ive never seen this girl before in my life, but that umbrella is wack   2004-02-24 17:19:20
danieldangerSend danieldanger a message :   "I mean C'mon both bands are "EMO" and it's a show that's taking place in S.F. You gotta be pretty dense to NOT make the connection, because 9 out of 10 people who see this poster in S.F. are going to immediately think it somehow has a reference to Jawbreaker. "
if anyone looks at this and immediatly doesnt think "morton salt" they need help, and they need to put away their record collection for a few years and rejoin the really real world.
  2004-02-24 17:13:11
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   Who the heck is morton? This is wack. blah blah blah. the jawbreaker shirt sucked harder than this one.
familiarity. :mrgreen:
  2004-02-24 17:09:56
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Well, geez. I instantly thought two things:
1. Either this is a benefit show for the American Heart Foundation, considering the adverse affects sodium has on the heart, as indicated by the Morton's Salt girl.
OR
2. It's some sort of show organized by Ed Templeton and/or Toy Machine skateboards in collaboration with the Pouges.
  2004-02-24 17:02:36
stevemotmotSend stevemotmot a message :   When this poster first came up, I didn't see the band name at the bottom. I instantly though, "Oh wow someone managed to dig up an old JAWBREAKER poster." Then I saw it was for another band, and thought "oh they're making some type of reference to Jawbreaker." I mean C'mon both bands are "EMO" and it's a show that's taking place in S.F. You gotta be pretty dense to NOT make the connection, because 9 out of 10 people who see this poster in S.F. are going to immediately think it somehow has a reference to Jawbreaker. Not to say there is anything inherently wrong with this poster, I think it's pretty cool, and I like the band a lot, and if I had one I would definitely hang it up. But symbols and icons usually carry some type of connotation. And within a subculture, you better believe people are going to pick up on it pretty fast.   2004-02-24 16:56:19
danieldangerSend danieldanger a message :   jawbreaker or no jawbreaker (i wasnt aware) its a great poster.   2004-02-24 16:45:38
seripopSend seripop a message :   we are all rip-off artists and hacks! hoooray! this is cute   2004-02-24 16:40:05
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   I like it. I didn't even remember the jawbreaker shirt until someone posted it.
Hell, Scrojo and I ripped off the same candy package within a week of each other. Who cares?
  2004-02-24 16:37:14
Dan KeezerSend Dan Keezer a message :   First off, the Jawbreaker design is bullshit (I didn't realize I was "ripping off jawbreaker" until after the fact, so I'm kinda sore about it). I was playing with the Morton Salt girl, not Jawbreaker.
Fuck jawbreaker.
I mean really, she's carrying a boombox, that's brilliant.
And "When it plays I record" is way more clever than "when it pains it roars..."
Whatev.
  2004-02-24 16:34:23
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   "Miss Elaine, she has sores."   2004-02-24 11:35:11
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   That's what it was! Thanks, Casey.   2004-02-24 11:23:45
Casey BurnsSend Casey Burns a message :   "when it pains, it roars."   2004-02-24 11:20:44
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   My point is that this feels like it's referencing a t-shirt design for a band in the same "scene", as opposed to an advertising image.
Right down to the play on words in the lower left hand corner of the image.
I believe it read "When it pains, it sours" on the Jawbreaker design.
  2004-02-24 11:18:33
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   hell yea rock on oh yea
you win.. I dig 8)
  2004-02-24 11:13:24
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   YES SHIT! :o :o :o :o   2004-02-24 11:08:46
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   No shit, really Brendan :roll:   2004-02-24 11:07:04
Brendan JordanSend Brendan Jordan a message :   Well, it's the Morton Salt girl, so it should strike a chord of familiararity (sp?).   2004-02-24 11:05:51
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   This is nice, but it just reminds me of the Jawbreaker t-shirt design from awhile back.   2004-02-24 11:03:40
FinchSend Finch a message :   ingenious   2004-02-24 06:32:25
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