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DESIGNER:

Seripop

VENUE:

Triple Rock

Minneapolis

USA

SUBMITTED BY:

Seripop

2003-11-09 22:00:53

BANDS:

Give Up The Ghost
Bled, The
Daughters
Fairweather

Give Up The Ghost Poster - Triple Rock, Minneapolis - Seripop

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john seabury :

This one is, anyway.

2009-05-25 00:45:38

Gregory :

posters are stupid

2009-05-24 21:38:04

danielpwilliams :

I thought you only did posters for noise bands. You know, cause of your "style" and all.

2005-10-04 23:38:09

jenrix :

cool

2005-10-03 18:48:22

Brainiac :

Or is it? :wink:

2004-04-20 02:17:35

seripop :

how ironic that this just came up on randomiser

2004-04-20 02:15:48

kustowski :

yuck

2003-12-29 11:39:06

Shad :

I love the poster but agree with: " I'm dissapointed that there isn't more of a recogniseable Dave presence. "
It's almost like seripop covered and hid dwitt to give their own style prominance..not a very successful collaboration in my opinion. But Dave likes it..so who the fuck cares what I think.

2003-11-11 17:25:54

DWITT :

awesome awesome AWESOME!
Tooth is on deck, you're after him, now I just gotta book us some shows.

2003-11-11 15:55:52

Grzeca :

I have my 10 extra pounds poster all planned out. :D

2003-11-11 15:44:28

lil_tuffy :

yeah, if the label actually paid me I might care, but since I was offerimg my services to promote the band and their album for free - enh to them.

2003-11-11 15:07:55

DWITT :

ha ha. To steal a line from Har Mar Superstar, "Ten Extra Pounds will rock your fuck"

2003-11-11 15:02:17

Tenebrini :

You're in a band?

2003-11-11 14:59:12

DWITT :

Nate, one word.... Dallars.

2003-11-11 14:47:53

withremote :

sorry, i still can't get over the readability...and the posters with sharpie on them.

2003-11-11 14:43:49

DWITT :

I've been to GREAT shows there with NOBODY in attendance.
Which is usually how it is whenever my band plays.

2003-11-11 14:43:21

DWITT :

Nate- nobody really cared about the local opening act, which was Olsen Twin Suicide (fairweather cancelled), cause they're not that great.
The poster created a LOT of interest about the show. The TRock managament told me. Success.

2003-11-11 14:41:42

withremote :

people go to Triple Rock shows regardless if the poster sucks or not; it has a loyal local following. That's still no excuse.

2003-11-11 14:39:25

seripop :

how would the lable lose money? esp. if the fans responded well? (i'm assuming you are talking about tuffy)
as for this well maybe if the label was paying for it they could have had a say.

2003-11-11 14:36:08

kozik :

ah,,,the dream..just you and the band. I can feel the magic now. who cares if the label loses all the money.

2003-11-11 14:33:02

withremote :

hmm...well, another one that i can read. that is all. :roll:

2003-11-11 14:31:28

DWITT :

Richie- I deserve it.

2003-11-11 14:22:06

MaximumFluoride :

They lost me somewhere in that name change ordeal. I was a huge fan of A.N. Seems I gave up the host myself.
So yeah, like this wouldn't really fit A.N. but it definetly fits what i know about Daughters.

2003-11-11 14:21:39

lil_tuffy :

I actually thought about the legibility issue some more and I think I'm starting to agree with Chloe. It's made for a select group of people. I'm part of that group and it really doesn't do anything for me but I realized last night that I'm guilty of the same thing.
About 8 years ago I did a tour poster for Storm&Stress that was simply varnish on white paper. Touch&Go hated it, record stores hated it - everyone but the band and the fans hated it. They loved it. We made tshirts that were white ink on white shirts. The kids loved them.
I think that same thing kinda applies to Seripop stuff. You either get it, which means you think it's genius, or you don't, which means their smug, exclusionary and/or elitist.
Regardless, I don't think anyone will lose any sleep over it.

2003-11-11 14:02:11

philaarts.com :

thats it, locust is being played right now.

2003-11-11 13:53:57

kozik :

you know theres a special circle of Hell reserved for earnest, obscure noise bands.

2003-11-11 13:52:26

red black attack :

yea they lost half their fans when emo kids started listening to them and they became the default band name thier make-out club's profile like/dislikes list.so at that i will say i was wrong that this poster DOES fit the current fans of this lineup.

2003-11-11 13:51:02

danieldanger :

yeah, they changed their name from american nightmare to american nothing, then from american nothing to give up the ghost. and somewhere in that change they lost most of their fans.

2003-11-11 12:39:22

Dusty! :

ok then.
a- i like the poster b- ide rather sit here and try and read this one that be easily be able to read alot of the stuff on here c- being that its for Give Up The Ghost, I dont think it fits the band, but if they arent the headliners than i think its cool. Or if give up the ghost sounds nothing like American Nightmare, im wrong.
also, out of all your shit, i think this is one of the most easily readable, and you know i can never read this shit!
thumbs up friends

2003-11-11 12:35:21

seripop :

you are right dusty we kinda have a love affair with daughters though.

2003-11-11 12:16:25

Dusty! :

doesnt Give Up the Ghost = American Nightmare?

2003-11-11 12:11:58

Tenebrini :

gawd?
are you from Long Island?
BRENDAN?!

2003-11-11 12:10:50

philaarts.com :

hey, if the band/promoter is happy, its a good one..
im not into the noise scene.. so all i know are the covers for some of the bands i see.
win win!

2003-11-11 12:10:39

tornado :

oh gawd- YAWN. :roll:

2003-11-11 12:08:54

seripop :

i have no probs with crits at all. if you see this poster on the street and it doesn't draw you into reading it then it's probably not made for your eyes. however, comments on how i probably don't do any of the design work or how we think we are so much cooler than everyboy or that we are "poseurs" (who the hell says that after high schol is what i wanna know?) is not only not a crit having anything to do with the poster but it's compleatly absurd. yes, we (often) design posters for a certain music scene (noise/art rock). i dont see how reflecting the aestectic of the music could be "fake" or "contrived" in the slightest. the point of a good poster is to convey the vibe of the event to it's intended demographic. we know our demographic very well because we are a part of it- we do stuff for bands we are fans of, the bands our band plays shows with. alot of the posters we make we are playing the show, setting it up or djing it. we are pretty involved in the noise scene in canada and beyound and our intents to make grapchics for the bands we enjoy are sincere. granted the demographic we work in is often pretty small but that is our personal choice and for the record we are doing just FINE (financially and otherwise) so thanks for the concern.
comments from people like "tornado" or "smackattackyo" or "peeskill avenger" mean nothing. they are simply alises certain people use to talk shit without soiling thier hands. the main thing i learned in art school was this: consider the source (of crits). ANYONE and EVERYONE can have an opinion , it only means something if you respect them either for thier work or for their knowlege/taste in arts. SO if the artists and people on this site i RESPECT like chantry , meeloo, largemamal , jet-ski ect thik it's good it means alot more than random anonymous shit sligers saying it's bad. thank you all and GOOD day.

2003-11-11 12:00:05

Tenebrini :

I too wonder about the anonymous. If you belive in what you say, have the balls to stand by it otherwise it loses a good deal of impact.
I originally was going to avoid commenting on this poster becasue I had a hunch somehting like this thread was going to happen and I know that Cloe thinks I'm a hack and doesn't care about my opinion anyway. But because I know and work with Dave and had heard about the piece, I was anxious to see it. I'm dissapointed that there isn't more of a recogniseable Dave presence. As far as Seripop's work I like about 10% of it. This doesn't fall into that percentage. The legibility doesn't really bother me in that that is what I would expect from Seripop. The colors hurt my eyes.
I know you all care so much.

2003-11-11 11:50:19

ENothing :

Ain't it libel on the interwebby? I'm an asshole.

2003-11-11 11:42:15

gun sho :

first off, "avenger". when i the fuck have i ever taken offense to someone critiquing my work? bring it on. i'd be more than happy if my work got the attention that chloe's does.
you have no clue what you're posting, but then again, i have no clue who the fuck you are.
on another note, you need to look up the definition of "slander".
i don't know what you have anything to do with the ridiculous "livejournal" fiasco, which did more to make other people look like total assholes than their intended target.
as far as that stuff goes, you're not exactly "calling me out" on that garbage because i could give a fuck about a juvenile atempt to start some high-school bullshit, by some idiot with too much time on their hands.
when are these anonymous people going to grow some balls?
people on here know who i like and respect and who i don't. when someone like you comes on here and tries to put me in my place, you're not getting very far, trust me.

2003-11-11 11:39:09

robschwager :

I wanna bash Richie. Richie you ignorant slut....

2003-11-11 11:30:42

standard :

I keep meaning to copyright my Standard Attack-Rhetoric so none of you bozos can use it. Crap.

2003-11-11 11:29:57

Tenebrini :

I'm sure he's busy shopping for belly shirts and hot pants.

2003-11-11 11:23:44

RichieGoodtimes :

All this Chloe bashing and no one's even bothered to take the time to bash Dave.
Goddamit Dave. You were a part of this. I can't read it at all.

2003-11-11 11:17:40

peekskill avenger :

My god gunsho why cant they just take the crit like everyone else? Why does it have to be that everyone is against them just because this poster isnt good? You alls clique is very two faced. You crit everything else and cant take it yourselves without making it some personal martyr situation. If I recall from reading here you were one of the handful of people along with Chloe who were doing that slandering of other artists over on that online journal a while back. Weve seen how you guys clique works dont try to convince us that you are saints are something. The poster doesnt work on several levels. Take the crit and move on for godsakes! :roll:

2003-11-11 11:12:22

ferg2001 :

i will trade a couple of fucktastic shirts for one of these

2003-11-11 11:05:53

ENothing :

vabish-CHE-vich

2003-11-11 11:01:17

gun sho :

between the left-handed compliments and standard attack-rhetoric, nothing makes sense. bottom line, half the people on here simply do not like seripop's stuff AND chloe and yannick could give a fuck whether their work is adored by that fraction of people.
if chloe wasn't a chick, i doubt that most of this shit would come down on her the way it does. case in point, "tornado" who hides behind an internet alias to launch his or her attacks and assumes that chloe is a talentless bimbo who does nothing but hang out on gigposters. too much projecting going on.
what's strange to me is that these people can't even come to a consensus agreement on their insults.
i've seen this poster in person. i don't think it's chloe's and yannick's best work, but each poster doesn't need to show the peak of their talent.
this poster, and the comments on it, really reflect how poor the internet can be in communicating things.
first off, this thing looks a million times better in person. the jpg is not a good reflection of that. second, for those who can't read it or don't like it, get over it, who cares? i can read it. when chloe and yannick first showed it to me, i stood there for a minute or so trying to decipher it. THAT doesn't bother me, it's a matter of taste.
there are thousands of posters on this site that appeal to some people and disgust others. who cares? why are seripop's worth more to you to destroy than all the countless others on here?
second. just as this poster is misinterpreted, so are chloe and yannick.
i know chloe and yannick, i just spent close to a week with them in Canada. I spent a while with them over the Summer as well.
i've been told of their "snobbery", lack of talent, etc, and in my subjective opinion, those observations are wrong.
seripop's tagline should be; "seripop probably works harder than you".
they tour with their art. they spend forever on designs. they work fucked-up hours. they print their own shit in a cramped studio. they WORK HARD.
when people come on here, somehow insulted by chloe, because she's insulted by them, what the fuck do they expect?
so far, there have been so many atempts to put chloe in her place, and she's come out of it every time. give up. honestly, the only thing that i can say about chloe that's remotely negative is that she's wasting her time even fighting over this stuff.

2003-11-11 10:54:58

Michael M. Motorcycle :

checkoutfuckinsmackattackyogettinallmeanandshit :roll:

2003-11-11 04:21:36

smackattackyo! :

where is the *yawn* emoticon. unreadable is cool? in the words of one of the raddest designers here, "whatever". another "look how punk rawk we are" poster. masturbation. pure and simple. have you forgotten what it is all about? you want to frig yourself, do it in front of a camera. porno is for whores. posters are to try to get people to come to shows. masturbate on canvas without band info. call it "art".

2003-11-11 03:00:27

seripop :

austin is on the list we will be at sxsw for the duration and at fs4 dwitt is a dynamo he does double the work we do. and he's just one guy. very soon he's gonna be a big shoot magazine illustrator. i can feel it.
david- we are so into doing more collabs with you and other wicked illustrators / designers. spread the love baby.

2003-11-11 00:52:29

DWITT :

Oh yeah, and if you want to see the full illustration i did for this poster, go to my website. it's in the Misc. Gallery section, page 1.

2003-11-11 00:50:16

DWITT :

uh...
since Oct. 2002 I've done about 100 posters on my own, a bunch more with Squad19. 2 album covers. a couple T-shirt designs. some ads. some collaborations. A comic book. (for Amish Armada)
I barely pay my bills. I got about three gallery shows coming up. One opens this weekend, a fourth I just took down.
Everyone thinks I should paint full time.
I'm gonna find another Triple Rock show for us to collab on again real soon. Or perhaps something for either of our bands.
Jeremy's name is pronounced... Wha-Bih-Shah-Vitz.

2003-11-11 00:40:44

largemammal :

I didn't mean your posters, silly.

2003-11-11 00:40:24

piemel :

it's a fucking lovefest... bunch of hippies!!
great stuff.
include austin in the intinerary please

2003-11-11 00:39:18

seripop :

dude those 150 boring posters are all we have to show for the past year and a half lay off man!

2003-11-11 00:38:06

largemammal :

once again, good job seripop!Another 150 boring, derivative posters will go up here before I see something as interesting as this. I have work to do. g'night!

2003-11-11 00:36:57

seripop :

piemiel- since march 2002 we've done 99 gig posters and at this count 43 other posters ( art shows, theatre, political , promo ect). i'm not sure how many are sold out about 1/3 or so. done 14 record covers, 2 of them major lable deals about 20 t shirt designs like 4 magazine/zine illos a bunch of art prints, paper dolls weird crap um some stickers and shit. an ad campain for canadian national tv an ad campain for a local radio station buncha club flyers and crap
have had or been in 50 some art shows, maybe 18 of them in "real" galleries, a bunch in clubs , some in record stores some in people's houses.
we do this full time and don't have any probs paying the bills (anymore). we eat very good food. (just ask james or alice) and while we have messy hair it smells good. like lavender. um we bathe daily and are in the midst of planing a us wide (march -april) tour and a europene tour (summer) tentative plans are being made for art exibits in osaka and tokyo our stuff isn' for everyone but ouyr clients like it, the bands we work with like it and our peers who we look up to generally like our crap. i like our crap yannick likes our crap. our agent and rep both seem o like our crap. so do the galleries who show our work ( at least i hope they do with the comission they take grumble grumble) we like our clients and we like each other. we like our 2 interns and we like the people who set up our shows. we like our webmisstress. we like the photographers who take our slides AND the ones who take press pics of us we like the people we collab with alot. we like the bands we do shit for ALOT. we like the people who we trade with ALOT and we like thier poters even more. we also like our van, our print shop, our design studio , our 3 cats, our bandmates, friends and collegues. we like many things yay life is grand! whoooooooooo hoooooooo!

2003-11-11 00:26:39

red black attack :

seripop- i agree daughters are the only redeeming band on this bill, i was bummed when i missed them at this austin show and highly disappointed in the rest of the show.i wish u could see more of dwitt's illo in this poster

2003-11-11 00:05:45

piemel :

he chloe/yannick...
since 2002... how many posters have you two done?
how many record covers?
how many shows and where?
how many posters are sold out?
are you guys able to keep afloat financially with your current work?
I would guess that 99% of the bands that seripop does posters for is crap for my personal taste... but damn those posters are sweet... not only that, these 2 uncombed and unwashed punks travel all over the damn place... and yes some of the shows might be in a backyard somewhere but heh, it works for them and thats all I care about... plus they just got back from NYC where they were kind enuff to hand out gigposters stickers that anydiesel mailed to them. The only problem I have with them is with the fact that they dont eat beef stew... but I am working on that
keep doing whatever you guys do there in Canada...
I want to see a book with your posters within 2 or 3 years... (with a readable cover though :) )

2003-11-10 23:57:30

piemel :

hang on a sec.... we are complaining because we cant read the band names on a poster?
thats nothing... i want something done to that guy called Wabiszcswwesdwzczexcessxzf... how can you be a legit artist when you cant pronounce your name?

2003-11-10 23:49:14

thinkmule :

so I've heard...any ways...
I think this is an interesting poster but is hard to read.

2003-11-10 23:39:48

thinkmule :

when carson doesn't cancel the lecture he shows up drunk...heh.

2003-11-10 23:34:46

rotodesign :

you are correct, sir!

2003-11-10 23:24:56

Brendan Jordan :

When Carson retired some hack named Leno took his place :wink:

2003-11-10 23:21:27

stinkbait :

isn't he busy canceling lectures?

2003-11-10 23:21:08

seriplop :

chloe you're fired
... oh shit... wait a sec...am I supposed to take advice on someone who's saying my work is shit?

2003-11-10 23:20:56

rotodesign :

Whatever happened to David Carson, anyway? He used to be so popular.

2003-11-10 23:19:18

Brendan Jordan :

We love you Tornado, and we're all here to help you through this tough time! Don't clam up on os though, we can't help you then. :o

2003-11-10 23:17:21

stinkbait :

I hated and loved Carson all at the same time. Raygun was sometimes impossible to read but it was beautiful. Sometimes I gave up other times I stuck it out and found the info burried in the design.

2003-11-10 23:17:09

rotodesign :

Illegibility has a long and honored tradition in art and design -- ask David Carson or the Emigre folks, or the psychedelic artists, or the Dadaists (etc., etc.). Think of a rock poster as a party invitation -- if you look at it and are repelled by its "ugliness," you're probably not invited.

2003-11-10 23:14:53

stinkbait :

I dig it. I love posters that make the viewer really have to try. That series that Chantry posted where Art, Jeff and I think Hank were trying to out hide the info in each other's work was awesome. Thinking's good and you have to do a little to put this all together. the double face in Dwitt's little dude rules.

2003-11-10 23:14:20

tornado :

Big yawn. This is boring. Look this poster isnt that good in my opinion. Its ugly and unreadable. To say that people who arent cool or punk enough cant read it is a joke and a slap in the face to the majority of sober people with 20/20 vision on the planet. To purposely create work to fit some ethic is fake and contrived and such a poser move. Yannick you should reign chloe in- she soils some of you alls work with thoughtless and naive posts. Shes like nails on chalkboard and makes your operation look 'thin'. Goonight to you too.

2003-11-10 23:10:09

Brendan Jordan :

Oh, and "normal" doesn't necessarily mean "not cool." It just means maybe you're not interested in a certain niche market others enjoy.

2003-11-10 23:08:53

Brendan Jordan :

"Cool," transcends definition. You know this. It means something different to everyone. Ironically so does "normal."
Everyone has a right to figure out what they consider "cool," and what they consider "normal." Especially if you're an artist for Christ's sake!

2003-11-10 23:04:24

Decker :

Define "normal" I bathe daily, pay my bills, eat well and have cable tv. Am I "normal" So "cool" is dirty, poor, broke and hungry, right?

2003-11-10 23:00:46

Brendan Jordan :

Yannick, go easy on Chloe. She's curious about the workings of our modern "machines."

2003-11-10 22:59:54

tornado :

:arrow: Yep.

2003-11-10 22:59:36

seriplop :

I don't know where you got this info tornado, but you are definitely wrong on how you think we collaborate together,
yannick

2003-11-10 22:58:19

Brendan Jordan :

I like whores :roll:

2003-11-10 22:47:31

tornado :

Hah. Dont play the gender card poor pathetic girl. You see, Tara and Leia Bell are damn good. Theyre actually DOING something. Not chatboard whoring. Youre so thin, doll. :lol:

2003-11-10 22:46:44

seripop :

well of course he does all the work none of you expected a mere female to be able to draw or do layout or pull prints did you? fuck i'm sure i had some of yu fooled. i guess the gig is UP. :lol: was fun while it lasted faking being a "poster artist" and all

2003-11-10 22:44:28

tornado :

'actually tornado yannick does ALL the work.' Believe me, Im NOT suprised. By the way, tell him he struck out on this one. Besides being ugly it doesnt serve its function as an advertisement.

2003-11-10 22:41:44

Brendan Jordan :

Yannick only beats you for your own good Chloe . . . you know you're not supposed to be using modern appliances.

2003-11-10 22:41:02

seripop :

actually tornado yannick does ALL the work. you got it right off the bat. i don't really do anything at all :D oops better hide before he sees me using the computer

2003-11-10 22:39:06

Decker :

So it doesn't qualify as an Ad for a show that doesn't qualify as music. Since you can't read the who what and where for a what the fuck noise show. Yet does it qualify as art for an art show or do both fail at the intended purpose of Ad and Music and Art?

2003-11-10 22:38:49

Brendan Jordan :

Why, thank you very much Chloe! :oops: :mrgreen:

2003-11-10 22:34:00

tornado :

Funny to watch seripop try to defend this thing against crits. And if its a neg crit then its not 'valid'. Ive said it before and Im willing to bet that the other guy in seripop does the majority of the work and probably rips clumps of his hair out everytime chloe opens her mouth publicly. Comes off as SO thin and dingy. :roll:

2003-11-10 22:33:51

seripop :

brendan your an astute kid.

2003-11-10 22:32:17

Brendan Jordan :

In other words, posters that are difficult, or annoying for "normal" people to read for bands that said "normal" people would find difficult or annoying to listen to.
I assume if you were a member of this scene that Seripop caters to you would also find this poster, possibly illegible, maybe hurtful on the eyes, but rewarding in all of its faults and a pleasure to own.

2003-11-10 22:31:00

seripop :

you got it man. :clap:
and it's working. quite well.

2003-11-10 22:30:06

Brendan Jordan :

I'll take this one Chloe:
Simply put, yes.

2003-11-10 22:28:46

Decker :

let me get this straight, your agenda is to make unreadable art/posters for unlistenable bands? That's a straight question.

2003-11-10 22:25:52

Decker :

I see a DWITT Illustration trapped in an off kilter Atari logo in odd colors crazy kerning with unreadable text.
Next

2003-11-10 22:00:49

Brendan Jordan :

When you wear 3-D glasses this poster looks hum-drum.
It really doesn't matter what we on this site think about this, I'm sure this poster did its job. Seripop has a distinctive style, and they wouldn't be so successful if their posters weren't effective.
For the record, I like it 'cause it looks cool . . . But I honestly can't read past the first line.

2003-11-10 22:00:17

seripop :

red black - you are so wrong. daughters are the best heavy band goin' right now. they are a much needed breath of fresh air in that type of music.

2003-11-10 21:55:35

goad74 :

(runs in the room)
What the fuck does it say? What? Why is everyone looking at me like that?

2003-11-10 21:52:55

Decker :

Oh really Madonna.

2003-11-10 21:49:55

robschwager :

I'm borderline on this piece....

2003-11-10 21:35:32

red black attack :

the only association this poster has to the bands is is the shitty outcome. all the bands at once did have potential but have become extremmly shity. like the poster im sure in the begining thru process and colabrators the idea was going great, but in my OPINION turned out bad.AMERICAN NIGHTMARE(r.i.p)

2003-11-10 21:12:58

altieri :

RULES!! Great colab!

2003-11-10 21:04:24

largemammal :

I love it. I would cross the street to look at this. I want one, real bad. I ain't got no seri prints yet...

2003-11-10 20:21:31

Sash :

Great design. Definitely works as a piece of art. But at least from the jpg I can't tell who's playing or where the gig is.

2003-11-10 18:08:33

nemotron :

these look better in real life. more legible too for whatever thats worth

2003-11-10 18:05:47

Sash :

(|,)(a)({0})([``])(+)(K)(W)~*~

2003-11-10 17:34:15

HYNES :

dreadlocks? :yeak:

2003-11-10 17:27:55

Michael M. Motorcycle :

Hacky Sackin'

2003-11-10 17:25:06

kozik :

and headlice

2003-11-10 17:24:19

Michael M. Motorcycle :

who cares.

2003-11-10 17:23:50

fartsatanfart :

Kerning isn't the problem. I wrote a book on proper typography . I'm famous.
These people need to worry about their leading.

2003-11-10 17:23:01

dace :

damn, i thought the rob roy kelly book was my secret weapon. fuck the haters, this is a kickass collaboration.

2003-11-10 17:22:36

DWITT :

Before the show, when Give Up The Ghost was getting some awesome Triple Rock food, I gave them a bunch of these, and one of the guys joked, "Why don't you just keep it and use it for some other show?" It was funny.
Daughters was like, " Hey look Seripop!!"
There was a girl waiting to get in the show, and she was staring at the last copy hanging on the wall, she suddenly shouted, "I can read it!!! YES!!" and ripped it down to take home. It was awesome.
It's tough to read, sure, not illegible. A good fit for the show.
I unfortunately missed the Give Up The Ghost set cause I was talking to Jeremy Wabiszcswwesdwzcz, and checking out his animated movie.

2003-11-10 17:10:03

HYNES :

see? smart comment.

2003-11-10 17:06:42

MaximumFluoride :

Kerning? We don't need no stinking kerning!!

2003-11-10 17:06:09

HYNES :

...I dont like this poster either. its got that muddy feel that some of their other posters have. Too much overlaying (even if it wasnt printed like that.)

2003-11-10 17:04:09

HYNES :

i think illegibility of text has become almost a trademark of seripop's work. Its almost like it stopped being text and becomes just another 'element' that defines or brands each of their posters. If anyone else had submitted this poster it would have been passed over or a couple of people would have made smart comments about kerning.

2003-11-10 16:59:14

andydiesel :

This is really cool. I only really like about 10%-20% of the posters you guys do, JUST A PERSONAL preferance, but this one is awesome.

2003-11-10 16:52:07

Meeloo :

I agree with Art.... 100 % ........ but i'm not crazy about the colors on that one... but it's only a JPEG........

2003-11-10 16:12:05

nemotron :

damn... what a response. that orange layer... yeah i printed some of that. sweet poster

2003-11-10 15:06:37

philaarts.com :

was this another "punked" thing?

2003-11-10 13:44:48

seripop :

art- we both love you. oh yeah our other poster we did for daughters is super easy to read. didn't get a single comment. :D

2003-11-10 13:41:09

philaarts.com :

moscoso just called me to say he cant read this either.
i heard there are alot of black people in africa.

2003-11-10 13:40:35

seripop :

oh and for kozik and tuffy the type is gothic tuscan italian from 100 wood type alphabets by rob roy kelly (dover books) pain in the ass cause it didn't have numeral so we had to build em

2003-11-10 13:36:20

art chantry :

seripop -
i don't care what anybody thinks about your work. i still love it. you guys just get better and better - it's brilliant stuff.
just keep doing what you're doing and in a few years i'll bet you guys will be internationally famous(er).
no doubt.

2003-11-10 13:34:38

seripop :

rene- same here. most bands we like don't get col posters done OR the posters are really hard to get ahold of . i have no prob displaying posters with wicked art if i've never heard the bands of course if i HATE the band(s) it's a diffrent story

2003-11-10 13:31:47

standard :

Hey, I can't read this.

2003-11-10 13:28:48

piemel :

:) i think more then 90% of my posters are for bands that I have never heard
i am weird though.. most poster collectors collect based on bandnames
thanks for the answer chloe...
cool poster

2003-11-10 13:28:25

harpuas420 :

wether you can read it or not i thine seripop work is absolutely amazing and so progressive and unique
if i new nothing about the band on the poster i would go to the show because the poster kicks ass, i've been known to do that before
grat work keep it up

2003-11-10 13:26:29

Grzeca :

I like the discussions on what makes a poster appropriate for the type of music it promotes- I think whats cool about this give and take is that these posters are being continually made and put up and boom-onto the next one. The medium lends itself to experimentation if the artist wants to do that. Some artists treat each poster like it has to be an impeccable piece of art or design- maybe that's appropriate if the music calls for it... Im my case when Im doing work for free jazz / imrovisational music Im playing around with work in my sketchbooks that seems appropriate for some reason. Its fun to see the instant results of putting it out there with an event. Some work better than others. I think Chloe and Yannick have open minds and keep trying different things. Cool by me.

2003-11-10 13:25:38

Goetting :

didn't take me long to read. i dig it.

2003-11-10 13:24:33

seripop :

one last thing for rene we too love MANY posters for bands we hate or have never heard like i LOVE jesse ledoux's stuff and i have no idea who 90% of those bands are i don't think disliking or liking posters for a type of music mean you will feel the same way about the music BUT i do think that if time and time again w\ you find imagery that represents a certain type of music either "difficult" , "sappy" (see emo) , "boring" , "ugly" ou might feel that way about the music it represents

2003-11-10 13:22:48

seripop :

well rene a big percentage of stuff we do is for noise rock or avant garde bands (ie bands many people find abraissive, unlistenable, "just noise") that is our prefered music to listen too so those are the jobs we seek out. now we try to reflect the music in our posters (and the way we treat text will change depending on the type of music the poster is for and what audeience we are reaching to) i'm not sure there is a prevailing visual aestectic that goes with noise/noise rock/art rock but i will say most of my prefered current posters artiss work in those music genres and many of my favorite posters made by those people are WAY harder to read than anything yannick and i hae ever made since we are in canada and the scene here is often several yars behind we feel that most of our stuff is and has to be pretty conservative compared to many of our peers who are making art for the same bands.

2003-11-10 13:18:11

brian kroeker :

the thing about these posters for me is this: 1) i see it on a wall 2) it immediately stands out and makes me take pause 3) i enjoy trying to decipher it and spend as much time as i need to figure it out. 4) pretty successful advert in my books
i wish SP would do more toronto shows... there's still space on my walls.

2003-11-10 13:01:47

Timothy J. :

'bad advert' is right.

2003-11-10 13:01:43

Melissa Buchanan :

If someone won't give trying to read this poster a chance, they won't give listening to these bands a chance. It's a great match for the bands, and I personally think it's a great poster.

2003-11-10 13:01:05

Timothy J. :

Does liking the bands on here make you develop triple-sided corneas with x-ray vision? Cause if your saying that if a person likes these bands they can read this stuff... :o I think their eyeballs are still normal, right?

2003-11-10 13:00:55

piemel :

seripop just mentioned something that has been on my mind for a while...
lets say you like a certain type of band... say 'daughters'.. does tha mean you then automatically or in most cases like a certain art style/form... and vice versa? in other words... if you dont like this poster you most likely wouldnt like the band nad if you hate the daughters and similar bands you wont like these style of posters?
in my opinion that's bogus... i do recognize though that metal heads like the skull crap stuff and faggy emo kids like faggy wings and birds... but personally I have tons of really cool posters for bands that i hate...
i guess to reflect a band you use certain images.. say skulls for hardrock music... and to a degree the style/design part can also be matched to a certain music type... but image/style are not that closely related to the music that they have become mutually exclusive right? (at least i hope not)
anyways i am blabbing

2003-11-10 12:59:59

kustowski :

either i've got an inner ear problem or this text made me nausesus.

2003-11-10 12:59:39

John :

I'm not an artist, I'm not a designer. I'm just a regular guy who apparently is an anonymous pussy because, for the life of me, I have no idea what bands are playing this show when or where.
Being intentially challenging isn't daring. It's merely being sensational for sensation's sake.

2003-11-10 12:52:28

art chantry :

hmmmmmm...
maybe a teddy bear right about in the middle.....like so.....
hmmmmm....

2003-11-10 12:52:24

Cody Pomeroy :

I personally like it.

2003-11-10 12:50:43

seripop :

kozik- pm yr new adress and u can have one in the post.
frito- quite fib\ne don't like it, you probable wouldn't like the bands either.

2003-11-10 12:49:10

kozik :

I am neither obscure nor a pussy. I like the design, but it is impossible to read.
if you take that as a negative, thats your problem.
cool artifact. poor advert.

2003-11-10 12:42:25

fritobandito :

Is "I just don't like the poster" a valid crit?
oh wait, I don't have a name to back up any crit

2003-11-10 12:40:49

Tenebrini :

This is fitting for "Daughters" that's for sure.
Annoying.
Interesting results from the collaboration though. It would have been nice to see a more ballanced result. If I didn't already know Dave had anything to do with this, I'd have never guessed that he did.

2003-11-10 12:40:23

gun sho :

i've seen this in person and it is definitely easier to read. the blue and black don't meld nearly as much as they do in this jpg. nice illo too, david.

2003-11-10 12:33:07

lil_tuffy :

Cottonwood?

2003-11-10 12:32:06

kozik :

so..it's not Hebrew?
is it Ponderosa?

2003-11-10 12:31:07

Plantweed :

Proudly headache-inducing, dig the colors.

2003-11-10 12:30:56

RichieGoodtimes :

HOLY CRAP. This one is like REALLY HARD TO READ.
I don't think you could have made it any more difficult without using characters that aren't even letters.
Kudos to you.

2003-11-10 12:30:41

seripop :

i have no prob with valid crits at all a jpeg and real life aren't the same. and honestly if it's hard to read that is FINE cause we KNOW people spend the time readiing. howw do we know? cause we get emailed everyday. so if some anonymous pussy with no work to back up his name thinks it's ugly that's fine. i'm quite happy, yannick is happy, david is happy and the bands i talked to were happy as were all the people who bought this in our last sale. we don't ake posters to please the masses we try to experiment, challenge ourselves and challenge our audience.

2003-11-10 12:28:57

peekskill avenger :

Dammit seripop...for someone who kind of thrives on criting everyone elses posters who arnt in your clique, you sure cant take crit yourself. This thing is ugly and a bunch of 'cool' people here cant read it. :roll:

2003-11-10 12:23:34

seripop :

yeah dave we are excited to do it again too. very stoked on the comments i got from the bands

2003-11-10 12:17:07

DWITT :

The reaction to this poster was awesome. Many hated it and couldn't read it, The owners were laughing, saying i was the worst/best poster they've had yet, cause EVERYONE was talking about it for an entire week, and every copy I put up was taken down ALL OVER TOWN.
So despite it's difficulty, it was a hit.
I love it, and want to do it again.

2003-11-10 12:11:54

seripop :

zelig- the bled and daughters are 2 seperate bands . in real life it's alot easier to read we printed it at u of pa and test drived it on many students and profs there everyone we asked could read it in a few seconds and none of them are rock poster enthusiasts or anything

2003-11-10 12:07:10

raindog138 :

frustrating.

2003-11-10 03:24:11

Meeloo :

the quadri blue is quiet dark... is it from the scan ?

2003-11-10 03:09:44

ZELIG :

I wanted to be a smartass and type out all the band names, but I'm not sure either. It looks like Give up the Ghost The Bled Daughters? Fair Weather Novemeber ? 8pm all ages triple rock

2003-11-10 02:51:19

kozik :

is that in Hebrew?

2003-11-10 02:36:22

MaximumFluoride :

I can only read one band name.

2003-11-10 02:34:46

seripop :

this is a collab we did with dwit he gave us an illustration and the show info and we sorta fucked up his drawing, cut it, xeroexed iand did the layout and type. it's a 4 color screenprint 11" x 17" yep.

2003-11-10 01:43:55

danieldanger :

waaay too hard to read. black prolly wasnt the best choice for text color. if this was on an off white paper, white text woulda been kickass.

2003-11-10 01:42:45