Young Monster :

its a classic

2010-08-12 20:28:01

piemel :

snagged one finally

2004-11-05 03:47:35

perkins :

Sambo

2004-09-23 12:00:27

8ball :

This critic senses a yearning...a desire to belong...almost like an alien, billions of light years away, trying to connect with a fellow lifeform.. Unfortunately, that feeling has been cheapened by yet another half-ass grab for attention. WORD TO THE ARTIST: Racism (or even it's tongue-in-cheek meaning) ain't cool. The art? Crap. The meaning? Lost.

2003-09-16 04:41:58

El Negro Magnifico! :

KMD: http://members.aol.com/ProfQuater/K_M_D.html The cover of "Black Bastards" got them dropped by Elektra. Zev Love X now performs as MF Doom.

2003-04-07 14:35:58

El Negro Magnifico! :

For the record, as a black person, I'd actually put this on my wall. It'd be a dope conversation piece(I have a metal Amos n' Andy toy sign at home just for kicks.). I dig the type. And upon looking at the thumbnail, it reminded me of KMD's "anti-Sambo" logo, which I always thought was cool.

2003-04-07 14:30:09

standard :

• If you hold this picture sideways, it says "18". Or "81" • I love hearing gunsho stories. • Eating that much butter is gross. My old boss's dog ate a stick of butter once. Foil wrapper, too. Musta had funny poop later.

2003-04-07 09:11:18

philaarts.com :

art i read this thread... and i THINK i understand the "trap". my question is, for you to know its a "trap" then you had some intent when you made this that is might be taken as racist. or after you made it, you noticed it could be taken as rascist... so then you fell into the same "trap".. if you didnt make these observations, how could it be a trap? if im wrong. sorry.

2003-04-07 08:45:54

gun sho :

yeah, a goat cage. or at least, a cage that we kept our baby goats in sometimes. I hate butter. I supposed it may have contributed to the vegan-thing ultimately.

2003-04-06 15:22:42

MaximumFluoride :

I have never eaten a whole stick of butter. My sister used to smash my face with the margewrine lid though. It had like lots of margerine all over it and she would like "pie" me with it. i beleive the first went something like this.. Sister: "Hey does this smell funny?" Brother (me): "huh?" Sister: smashes lid in brothers face smearing the greasy margerine lid around liberaly and laughs histericly. Brother: :(

2003-04-06 15:15:18

robschwager :

MMMmmm... DC editors took me out to Ruth's Chris one time. Best slab of meat I've ever eaten....

2003-04-06 15:11:22

kozik :

Mine was Land O lakes swaet cream. After 2 miserable years of algae and lettuce that stick of butter gave me super-human strength. I bet a grew an inch. Later that day I went to Ruth Chris' and had a sirloin wrapped in bacon.

2003-04-06 15:08:25

art chantry :

come to think of it, it wasn't butter. it was safeway brand margarine. no wonder i got the runs...

2003-04-06 15:05:47

art chantry :

and yes, i have eaten a whole stick of butter. but that was when i was a kid and we were very poor and it was the only thing we had to eat in the house. it gave me the runs, and i'd probably rather starve now than do it again.

2003-04-06 15:03:57

kozik :

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...I feel better now. You have copis? you should try and post them all on thread. I want to see. :o

2003-04-06 15:03:50

art chantry :

ok, i'll hold you to it, too. the theater posters happened because that was the only place i could get poster work. i was doing theater poster even before i was doing music posters back in the 70's. the notrhwest is one of those end-of-the-road places where wacked wandering talents of all sorts pile up because they can't go any further and still be in the u.s. as a result a lot of small independant theater groups started up. there were dozens of them in seattle. when i arrived in seattle, there was no theater poster scene. then alongside guys like tim girvin and gary jacobsen and fred andrews, we began approaching small groups and designing posters for them, as it was (like punk) the only kind of advertising available to them. within a few years, seattle was wallpapered with really cool theater posters by dozens of designers. as money entered the picture, most of the smaller groups closed down (largely because they couldn't compete for the audience from the larger mainstream groups like the seattle repertory theater who catered to suburban taste - i.e. musicals of oklahoma and the like). now there's only a few theaters in seattle and they get freebies from big design studios and ad agencies who are willing to pay for all the expenses to win a few creative design awards. i loved doing theater posters bcause, unlike rock posters, they had to reflect the creativity and interperetation of the individual production, deal with larger human and literary and historical themes, and challenged the intellect of the designer as well as the social and babysitting skills. yes, i ALWAYS read the play - several times. i would have long deep discussions with the director or the actors involved. it was a buttload of work and a huge challenge to do it well. you really had to THINK it through many times before you ever touched ink to paper. frankly, it's hard these days to find any groups willing to do challenging creative theater poster work. most of them think they need to slap a photo of the lead actor in makeup on the thing and put REAL BIG HEADLINES on it and and a few critics quotes and that is what works. an editorial interpertation that stands alongside the play as a companion work of art is pretty foreign to most theater groups now. like punk, it seems to be an era whose time has gone - at least for now.

2003-04-06 14:59:39

robschwager :

a goat cage...?

2003-04-06 14:53:48

robschwager :

Did you print this one in red...? If you DIDN'T, then what's the "trap"? The "trap" to me would seem to be that you WANT folks to think about a "Sambo" image, and you KNOWINGLY used it that way. if you DID print em in red, there would be no controversy about your paperclip and black stamp pad. so then why jump on somebody's back when they bring up what was your original intent anyways...? MMmm... buttersticks....

2003-04-06 14:51:54

seripop :

james, is that why u are vegan?

2003-04-06 14:49:43

seripop :

i have some of the theater posters- they are the only posters we've gotten framed here's a funny story b4 gettingevicted from our beautifull live-in studio in the nicest part of town, yannick and i had a roomate rob us blind. we got a temp replacement who is an actor in sevral local theater companies right before we had to leave our actor buddy had a HUGE blowout party with the casts and crews of both plays he's in and we stuck around a bit to sweet talk the directors into getting some poster gigs. well we showed our portfolio to the 2 directors and got both jobs. 3-4 days after the party however we got about 10 emails from diffrent actor/directors wanting to hire us based on the AMAZING theater posters theysaw on the walls our roomie thought the chantry stuff (an everything else on the walls : jay ryan, kliensmith, bell, herzick ect) was ours and gave out ouremail adress after we left to EVERYBODY we didn't say we DID those posters but we didn't say we didn't do em either i just figure all the fringe fest posters we do better be extra special now

2003-04-06 14:49:12

gun sho :

on the stick of butter topic... once as a child, my sisters locked me in a goat cage and made me eat a stick of butter before being allowed to come out of the cage. carry on.

2003-04-06 14:48:34

kozik :

I promise to be good.

2003-04-06 14:43:42

art chantry :

i'll answer you if you promise to stay off the racist jokes, ok?

2003-04-06 14:42:19

kozik :

no use flogging a horse unless it's dead. how many theatre posters did you do? I'm really obsessed by those. Do you still like them? Did you read the plays before doing them? what sort of public response did the garner? ever eat a whole stick of butter?

2003-04-06 14:41:33

robschwager :

Dude... stick of butter...? that's sick man. didja at least dip it in sugar before ya ate it...?

2003-04-06 14:41:15

art chantry :

frank, you idea of humor is extremely painful and embarrassing to me. you should know when to quit. that was advice you gave me once, ok? i took it. now, you should, too.

2003-04-06 14:39:26

kozik :

once when I came off a two year Vegan bender I literally sat down and ate a stick of butter.

2003-04-06 14:38:56

kozik :

Ok, cool. I"M EVIL. I think I will use my new found evil to start a progrom against GoodTimes and his ilk. I reckon Tarbaby got me in the Briar patch real good. I have egg on my face..or is it in my beard? har. THEATRE POSTERS PLEASE.

2003-04-06 14:38:06

robschwager :

know those seashell looking butter cookies sandwhiched together with raspberry filling and the one end dipped in dark chocolate and sprikles...? those are my all time favs.

2003-04-06 14:35:36

art chantry :

like i pointed out last night, frank. i chose this image BECAUSE it was confusing to the viewer. just like billy tipton, it becomes what the viewer thinks it means. it's three paper clips on a stamp pad. it happens to be black ink. that's all. you're the one who came roaring in shouting "jigaboo" and "darkie", like it was funny anc cool to use those words i public (or private). YOU'RE the one who started all of the racist mumbo jumbo, and it was reflecting YOUR view, not mine. bottom line, you stepped in it. not me, fella. it has nothing to do with seattle in 1989. sorry.

2003-04-06 14:34:11

kozik :

I like those big floppy chocolate chip hog-stoppers myself. I used to be obsessed with those little Nabisco lemon/vanilla deals.

2003-04-06 14:33:01

robschwager :

MMmm... butter cookies....

2003-04-06 14:31:36

kozik :

look man..like it or not this image is 'permanently' embedded in western Iconagraphy as a Sambo. Minstrel...Step N Fetch it. I imagine at the time you viewed it as clever and transgressive, but you got to call a spade a spade. I didnt encounter any African-Americans or racist imagery until I was 15 or so. Back in Spain you would see the occasional 'real' african, so hence, I am strangely devoid of any 'anti-black racism'. I do have a negative view of Catholics though as I witnessed a lot of bad shit perpetrated by them when i was a kid. HANG THE POPE!

2003-04-06 14:29:13

art chantry :

frank - this is payback for calling stupid for that racist lingo on this thread last night, right? i've always noticed a pattern with you. when you get one-upped, you wait until the next day and you launch a full bore counter-attack on some other aspect of the person who pissed you off. it's getting a little predictable, dude.

2003-04-06 14:23:23

kozik :

It's an inside joke with myself. A while back you made some post to the effect that what you did was 'Folk Art Mind Fucking'. The annoyance comes in on this level: What we make are simplistic throwaway designs to promote insignificant pop music. that's it. also..the past is dead. for all your supposed hatred of Seattle, you seem to gnaw that long dried up bone without remorse.It's boring. What about your current work? I want to see andhear about that. What about the Estrus stuff? i want to see and hear about that. What about your (in my opinionated,uninformed and idiotic brain) best work of all-the theatre stuff..I want to see and hear about that. The 'glory daze' of 1980-89- seattle are BORING. gimme some fresh thoughts. like..go look at www.vault49.com..lets talk about that stuff..interestingt combo of digital and op-art.

2003-04-06 14:18:39

MaximumFluoride :

Ah!! Very nice. I like it. It still makes me want butter cookies though.

2003-04-06 14:16:46

art chantry :

max - three paper clips on a rubber stamp pad.

2003-04-06 14:11:02

MaximumFluoride :

3 Danish butter cookies on a photocopier bed.

2003-04-06 14:09:59

art chantry :

frank, i have to bite - what on earth are you talking about? have you lost it completely out there in gimmee-gimmee land?

2003-04-06 14:08:23

softhandedlady :

Fuck I have been trapped by Chantry.

2003-04-06 14:08:05

kozik :

YOU HAVE MIND FUCKED ME AGAIN! YOIKS! MY EVIL MACHINATIONS REVEALED! ZOUNDS. "History is Bunk"-

2003-04-06 14:03:38

art chantry :

sodthand - too late. i felt this one was worth preserving (the newsprint ones are deteriorating.) like i said, it was designed to be a trap, and it works goooood....

2003-04-06 14:01:49

Jeff Kleinsmith :

Art, I appreciate your advice. I'll take it into consideration.

2003-04-06 13:51:53

softhandedlady :

If you are going to reprint anything. Dont do this one. Thanks. Kozik reprint Neil Young!!!!

2003-04-06 13:50:22

kozik :

I am considering saddling up a sewer-hog and reprinting all my classic posters. I have all the seps. I figure I could clean up, put the money into Halliburton and Lockheed Martin stock and then fund my own political party. Ot maybe just lots of hookers.

2003-04-06 13:48:02

art chantry :

jeff, get off yer noble high-horse. you're talking to ME, and i know full well what you're capable of. convince THEM, not ME. i've had over 15 years to form my opinion of you. it's too damn late. you are no martyr in my book. if you go back and read what i wrote, i never once said anything about you selling reprints. i said some of those posters were reprinted. that also includes ME and ED and ASHLEIGH and OTHERS. believe it or not it's not always about you when i comment on stuff.

2003-04-06 13:43:55

kozik :

I am but a humble peasant to the Great Lords of Design-Chantry and his Disciples. Unwashed, unloved and scabrous I merely till the field of turnips in the cast-off radiance of their Palace. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

2003-04-06 13:31:36

Jeff Kleinsmith :

It was a long time ago, indeed... I feel compelled to say that when I started doing these it wasn't like it is now. There was the poster ban, we were all trying to figure out what was next with posters in Seattle. Nick, Shane and I were just getting BSK going (which became BLT, which is now Patent Pending Press) and none of us had any idea how all this stuff worked. There wasn't much of a precedant at the time. For many of the posters I had done I never got copies, or they came out as split fountains or cut weird, or on some crazy orange paper. The point I'm trying to make is that I never intentionally decided to reprint a previously designed poster in order to make money off of it. I'll bet there were times that one of those MOE posters got made into a screen print but it was not intentional on my part. There are many of my posters like the band aid, Boss Hog, any of the Built to Spills or Modest Mouses that I could reprint and make money on. I won't do it. I won't reprint any of the Patent Pendings stuff that are sold out. I think you have the same feeling about reprints. If I ever change my mind I will come on and here and eat shit.

2003-04-06 13:24:05

art chantry :

and we all love you for picking it back up - and throwing into our faces.

2003-04-06 12:33:44

RichieGoodtimes :

Frank drops the ball sometimes. You can count on me.

2003-04-06 12:32:47

art chantry :

richie - what would we do without you to throw gasoline on the fire at every chance? why, we'd have to rely on frank for that activity, right? xxoo

2003-04-06 12:29:18

RichieGoodtimes :

I think it's sweet that you guys are talking. It warms my heart.

2003-04-06 12:28:01

art chantry :

yeah, i was a good thing to stay out of where this thred traveled. yeeesh! apparently, we both have interesting, but failing memories about that stuff. the bottom line is that many of your posters have been reprinted, that's undeniable. so that was the only point i was trying to make. honestly.

2003-04-06 12:23:36

Jeff Kleinsmith :

Art, Staying outta where this went... It IS silly but I want to make sure that if you're retelling history that it is correct.. Nick very well MAY have made a poster for me, (it may have been Royal Trux, but I doubt it), but that wasn't how the band aid poster went down. I made the full size screenprint film FOR him because my client asked me to. What Nick did was take my poster film and print it with split fountains, and on crazy paper stocks to, as you said, teach himself to print. He 'surprised' me with those results. Sometimes to my chagrin and horror, sometimes they came out cooler than what I spec'ed.

2003-04-06 12:20:11

oahu_surfa :

billboard/poster/handbill/flyer... funny you should bring that up. i was at this new gallery on maui a few months ago. this guy is selling tons of those old school travel, food, cigarette posters. turn of the century/art deco kind. i thought at first glance they were all reprints. my point is, they were fucking huge. there was a cappiello that was 13x10 feet! he had to unroll it on the floor. all hand pulled lithographs. i guess with quadruple the population now it's hard to find a space to hang something like that. it'd be nice to print some gigposters like 4x6 feet.

2003-04-05 20:25:26

MaximumFluoride :

I sold a painting yesterday, but I aint buying you to a damn thing. My kids gotta eat.

2003-04-05 18:52:53

kozik :

he just sold 2 paintings yesterday..so yeah he needs to buy real damn soon.

2003-04-05 18:46:59

dustin wallace :

i'll buy ya a taco when i'm out next week, ok, richie?

2003-04-05 18:46:56

RichieGoodtimes :

That place is good but it's way better when Jermaines buying.

2003-04-05 18:45:09

art chantry :

whatever, frank. whatever.

2003-04-05 18:43:13

kozik :

Monday we should hit the Mexican Joint around the corner. Don Ramons-good stuff.

2003-04-05 18:43:11

kozik :

iT's cool cause Im a Polack/Spic so I got like a right baby! Payback for all those round rooms and bars of soap! anyways, I'm not the one that drew this parody of a racial type. I just stick to Totalitarian Dictators.

2003-04-05 18:42:35

RichieGoodtimes :

Why don't you take me out to eat cause I haven't had breakfast or dinner. or lunch. I'm hungry.

2003-04-05 18:41:48

kozik :

Hm....breakfast for dinner sounds pretty good right now.

2003-04-05 18:40:30

art chantry :

you can try to joke your way out all you want, frank, but the fact is that you were tossing around some pretty mean words that are still extremely upsetting and polarizing for many many people. i'm not calling rascist, i'm calling you stupid.

2003-04-05 18:40:19

MaximumFluoride :

Looks like 2 eggs and a pice of bacon to me. I'm hungry.

2003-04-05 18:39:54

kozik :

I wonder when the last time a real person used the term 'ZOUNDS!' in real life. probably never. "What A Shocking Bad Hat!"

2003-04-05 18:39:35

kozik :

ZOUNDS! I have been revealed as a vile RACIST!. You know..I think I see a Star Of David in there somehwere...har. SIEG HIEL!

2003-04-05 18:37:16

kozik :

I am about to rationalize a big dinner. It will contain meat, but I'm an omnivore, so it's cool. God gave us animals to eat. Or was it Mithra? I'm thinking maybe diner food.

2003-04-05 18:35:59

art chantry :

this poster was designed to be a trap. it works gooood....

2003-04-05 18:35:15

RichieGoodtimes :

I think he meant that he jerks of with his left hand.

2003-04-05 18:34:52

art chantry :

now you're a 'leftie'? boy, frank, you can rationalize anything.

2003-04-05 18:32:15

kozik :

sorry. It was just the knee-jerk leftie in me.

2003-04-05 18:30:43

art chantry :

i selected this image because it was confusing - just like billy tipton. it becomes what we WANT it to be, frank. think about it...

2003-04-05 18:29:25

kozik :

I don't know man..it looks pretty smokey to me. I hear Seattle is chock full of Drunk Injuns. No longer noble masters of the potlatch nor fishers of the salmon.

2003-04-05 18:28:57

kozik :

perhaps it's an homage to the 'minimal man paradigm'.

2003-04-05 18:27:30

art chantry :

frank - all i see is some paper clips and a stamp pad printed in black ink... if it were red ink, would it be an 'injun'????

2003-04-05 18:27:28

art chantry :

jeff - did frank just say "jigaboo?" this is stupid. that particular poster was pre-ban, and it was fairly standard for a seattle punk poster. it was just a tad skinnier, that's all. the big silkscreen version (if i remeber correctly) was meant as a surpise gift for you from nick sherman who was your partner in bsk and did the silkscreening. he was trying to impress you and encourage you to do more posters. he was also trying to show everybody that he figured out how to do it. that's my recollection. i remember him showing it to me and folks around the rocket and and saying,"shhh, don't tell jeff".

2003-04-05 18:26:15

kozik :

maybe I should use the term 'darkie'. I suppose there is some sort of valid 'minstrel' connection or something. maybe this band did a cakewalk...

2003-04-05 18:25:09

needles :

fuck, i haven't heard that word since i was a kid in baltimore. is it ok to use the word jigaboo now?

2003-04-05 18:22:47

kozik :

whats with the Jigaboo design?

2003-04-05 18:21:15

Jeff Kleinsmith :

I was just looking at the original artboard for that yeterday, I didn't put a rulrer to it but my recollection is that it was two-up on an 11 x 17. For most of those early RCKNDY shows I did for Caroline and Alex, I did a run of 50-75 large screen printed posters and a large run of "handbills" I have stacks and stacks of them still and they vary drastically in size and shape. They would be disrtibuted to record stores and Rudy's. I believe this was there answer to to the poster ban since they couldn't put up the 11x 17s anymore and large runs of screenprints weren't cost effective. The band aid "handbill" because of it's dimensions, needed to be a larger size than the normal postcard size handbills.

2003-04-05 18:20:09

art chantry :

jeff, the "small two-color handbill" was 11x17, with a slight trim. i've always considered that to be a poster. am i wrong? the color version was nick teaching himself to silkscreen.

2003-04-05 18:07:28

art chantry :

ya know, i'm having a very hard time differentiating between a 'handbill', a 'flyer' and a 'poster' (or a 'billboard'). in europe, what we consider posters would be considerd flyer because they are so small. on this site, if it's 11X17 or smaller and b&w, it's a flyer. if it's color, it's a poster. from the 1950's back, if you look in old design annuals under 'poster', you find a nuch of billboards. and "boxing' posters have ALWAYS been called 'showcards", which are different than posters because they ar printed on cardboard, otherwise it's a poster. throughout my career, if it was bigger than 8 1/2 by 11, it was a poster. under that, it was a flyer. that's a the rule i stick by. color has no bearing. what do you folks think?

2003-04-05 18:04:49

Jeff Kleinsmith :

The band aid poster was comissioned as a small two-color handbill/flyer AND a screenprinted poster. The flyer/handbills and to be printed twice cuz I forgot the H in 'Afghan'. You might actually be right about the Sebadoh. I'll have to check on the Buffalo Tom. I remember making it but I don't remember which came first.

2003-04-05 17:59:13

art chantry :

oh, and i do have BOTH versions of the bandaid poster, so i KNOW you've done reprints.

2003-04-05 17:55:06

art chantry :

sell some copies to dan, ok? what about the buffalo tom or the sebadoh or the pond or a few of the others in those things. you DID do color versions later, right? i think i may still have copies in one of my drawers, here...

2003-04-05 17:51:56

Jeff Kleinsmith :

Art, I have a at least a couple copies of all the issues. Strangely, I was digging through them yesterday while looking for old posters to post. You got to posting these first and I'm glad you did - brings me back to good time. These were super fun to do because, as you said, they were legitimate posters but since they were printed in a newspaper format, type size and readibilty became a non-issue. I've never re-printed any poster I've ever done, but I always thought about reprinting some of these. You should reprint the whole set.

2003-04-05 17:48:00

art chantry :

dan - like i said, many of the series were reprinted as color versions by others trying to market them. i attempted to re-print some of mine (silkscreen, b&w) just because the originals were on the cheapest newsprint imaginable, and they are now starting to age. however, they didn't look the same in silkscreen, so i stopped. they all were designed to be on newsprint and switching to a more 'museum grade' medium did not improve th quality, strangely. it made them look cheap, if you can believe it. i do have a number of issues 2 thru 5, but i only have one or two of the first issue. i've never tried to sell any. have no idea what i would price them at. i don't even have any idea if any outside of my stash even survived.

2003-04-05 17:29:28

Dan Apparatus :

Art, you may have posted before about this but I don't remember... Are any of these posters from '94 available for purcha$e anywhere?

2003-04-05 16:22:04

art chantry :

this image was ent to me by my friend nathan gluck (he used to work with warhol back in the 50's, and was later the guy who answered the phones at the aiga for about 30 years.) when i did this poster, he was shocked because he had no idea that it looked racist. it was just face made out of paper clips on a stamp pad. hee hee. billy tipton was that medicre jazz musician who was dicovered to be a woman upon his death. he was married 2 or 3 time and even raised a family. he passed so completely that not even his ex-wives claim to know he was a she.

2003-04-05 15:25:22

art chantry :

well, folks, this stuff that i just posted (or rather clay posted for me) is an interesting story. you'll note that they are all for moe during a 5-month period in 1994. they were all printed on newsprint, although a number of them were later printed as color editions by a number of the artists involved. also, about a third of the posters in this series have already been posted in various artists lists on this site. for instance that ed fothering ham "tv" muffs poster was part of this series. the pablo one somebody recognized as a color version was also one of the reprints. you'll find some of the others under me, hank trotter, jeff kleinsmith, justin hampton, ward sutton, tim conder and jesse reyes. so, back in 1994, the city of seattle banned posters. at that time i was sharing studio space with hank trotter and jeff kleinsmith (who was essentially running sub pop art department through the space). hank and were freelancing, but later hank went to work for sub pop. i was working on a 'brochure' for a performance art rep using the newspaper format (like a standard paper. unforded it was 32x24) where each page acted as a promotional poster for each artist. essentially the people booking the act could use the page as a blank for the event. when the poster ban started, i thought it would be a good idea to start a similar poster 'newspaper' that clubs could print posters in (and encourage people to hang up the PAGE because it was technically not a POSTER, it was a newspaper PAGE). i got the hottest club in town at the time - moe - to back the idea. the first issue, was just work by me, hank and jeff. i sorta acted as art director (assigning, collecting, preparing the final, etc.) and ringmaster. the deal was that everybody got to choose from the list of acts and do a poster (first come, first serve) in exchange for $35 and free tickets (jeff and hank and i did them for free). i always did the posters nobody wanted to do. it worked great, the next issue was four additional pages (some posters were full page, some were half-page). an amazing assortment of painters, cartoonists, designers, webheads, and friends all contributed. people like ed, jaime hernandez, pete bagge, pablo, jim blanchard, tim conder (former roth studio vet and reknowned motorcycle customizer), even jacob lawrence had promised to do one. unfortunately, the club tried to pay off everybody with free drinks and a 'pass for one'. when i found out, i started paying everybody out of my own pocket. after five months, the club dumped the idea becuase they thought it was "too expensive". then they cut off all the artists' tabs that had been created. classic. to top it all off, collectors and dealers snagged all of the issues before they could get distributed and none of them ever were hung up on poles. it was amazing work, terrific posters, and a miserable failure. the poster ban ran for another 9 years. it was finally overturned by the state supreme court as unconstitutional. about a week after the reversal, seattle made it a ban again. as far as i know it is still illegal to poster in seattle. whether it's enforced or not, i don't know. great town to hold flatstock in...

2003-04-05 13:24:39

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