red black attack :

sixhundred and sixty six guns... for saaattaaaaaaaaaan!

2004-09-17 05:52:18

8ball :

Okay, this flyer is shitloads better now that I noticed AGONY COLUMN was on the bill! "Rattle..rattle..rattle...STRIKE! SNAKEBIIIIIIITTTEE!!" My band is currently working on an Agony Column medly for one of our shows when Crow shows up! :bang:

2004-09-16 23:23:18

Tenebrini :

Baby Jesus needs a side of corn.

2004-06-21 12:38:18

compton :

i've talked to a few of my supervisors, etc at work and have decided to put this one on the back burner (heh heh) and use it next year. this is my first year (and time!) to do this kind of thing and i don't want to fuck myself right off the bat. if everyone loves the exhibit like i know they will, i'll definately put it in next years. with the articles.

2004-02-19 06:32:09

Finch :

interesting reading...thanks for posting the articles

2004-02-18 06:32:13

maynard :

"I'm talking r-e-a-l babyback ribs."

2004-02-18 00:46:50

slater :

I wonder what the reaction to this would be now? It's still funny to me, always will be.

2004-02-17 17:44:22

slater :

"Saul, who currently teaches at the University, evidently doesn't have a lot of affection for the majority of his colleagues in either the art world or the real world. Frank Kozik shares that irreverent attitude" See Frank, I told you that you and Peter Saul would get along. That was a really nice bit of history in those daily texan articles, I enjoyed reading them, thanks. There's something about negative reviews that really excites me.

2004-02-17 17:36:18

perkins :

POWER.

2004-02-17 16:31:22

RichieGoodtimes :

Wow. No shit. I did not know that.

2004-02-17 16:05:09

kozik :

yeah same guy

2004-02-17 16:04:21

RichieGoodtimes :

Is that Bill Anderson the same as Billy Anderson? Know who I mean? Was he in P13 Frank?

2004-02-17 16:02:51

compton :

with the help of rockologist...we found the three daily texan articles regarding this poster. might have to put it all in the exhibit.

2004-02-17 15:56:57

compton :

Barbecued baby scandal spices up boring Tavern schedule BYLINE GREG SMITH In 1984, Peter Saul executed Art and Life, which neatly proposed that people don't have the faculties for dealing with reality. The recent uproar over the "Baby Jesus Bar-B-Q' flyer just proves that assertion to be correct. Art and Life is a cartoonish portrait of a monstrous Everyman Artist - a double-mouthed cyclops with a malformed upturned nose sarcastically designated "Sensitivity." In his mouths are two turds labeled "Art" and "Life"; his molded, plastic hair is his "Talent"; and he tries to disguise his myopic vision with glasses - a futile effort since he wears them upside down. Saul, who currently teaches at the University, evidently doesn't have a lot of affection for the majority of his colleagues in either the art world or the real world. Frank Kozik shares that irreverent attitude, as demonstrated in his flyer for last Friday's (canceled) Poison 13/Agony Column show at the Texas Tavern. That flyer shows the Baby Jesus being grilled on a Char-boy by Joseph and the Virgin Mary - not quite the typical family cook-out. Protests from a vocal minority of seven led UT administrators to coerce Tavern management into postponing the show. In reply, the bands and the artist took a benignly amused attitude to the protesters. Kozik summed up his feelings with, "I think it's hilarious. A lot of people serve the Lord in their own way. I prefer to barbecue him." Everyone seems to have forgotten the original intent of the flyer - one of thoughtful dissension from prevalent tastes. The nature of the flyer, and that of rock "n' roll, is rebellious. The reaction of the protesters led to the overreaction of the UT administration. The only people punished were the band members who were denied the opportunity to perform - and to make money. Some Christians might have been offended, but nobody actually took any babies and served them as brisket. The protestors acted as moral watchdogs for the whole of the Austin community; they urged readers to "boycott these bands," on the basis of the flyer without a single reference to the music of the bands themselves. Neff and Co.'s actions ape the PMRC-mentality that led to the warning label on the Dead Kennedys' Frankenchrist (the one with the horror-erotic H.R. Giger print). But the DKs got the last laugh that time; after warning of "shocking, repulsive or offensive" material, the sticker states, "Life can sometimes be that way." The protesters accomplished only one thing - they publicly aired their aesthetic ignorance. They didn't stop any child abusers or Satan worshippers. If this statement hurts feelings even more, then they should stop reading editorials and viewing art with such a limited vision of the way the world is.

2004-02-17 15:56:31

compton :

Catching hell "Baby Jesus' flier isn't enough to justify BYLINE JOHN ANDERSON A small vocal minority sure can raise a ruckus. Especially when it's a group of Christians with a bone to pick. What we've got here is two bands, Poison 13 and Agony Column, that put out a flier to advertise their Friday show at the Texas Union Building. The well-publicized flier was hardly inoffensive. It depicted Baby Jesus roasting on a "Char-Boy" barbecue with biblical characters Joseph and Mary standing by, plates and forks in hand. On the poor taste meter, this one was off the scale. Poor taste, though, is no grounds to cancel the show, which the Union did Friday afternoon. If the flier had depicted "baby devil" roasting on the grill, you can bet your last communion cookie the show would have gone on. If Bill Cosby were the roastee, Agony Column and Poison 13 probably would still have played Friday night. But bring the wrong side of Christianity in and all hell breaks loose. But you can't blame Jon Neff, the Disciples Student Fellowship member who complained to the Union's management and to the UT administration. He's got the right to condemn that flier, to lobby others to condemn it and to protest it to the high heavens. Protest is Neff's right as surely as it is Frank Kozik's to design that flier and the bands' to post it up on the Drag. It's called freedom of speech. Ironically, everyone involved legitimately exercised their free speech rights. Kozik drew the poster for the bands. They posted it on the Drag to advertise their Union show. Neff and six other Christian organizations raised hell with the University for allowing the bands to play. And finally, the University canceled the show. But the University screwed up. First, it canceled an innocuous concert because of a flier of questionable taste - hardly the first time bands have used shock value to advertise a show. Second, it apparently has been following the Supreme Court too closely: It created a new rule and applied it retroactively. From now on, all contracts between the Union and booked bands stipulate that any ads using the Union's name must be approved by the Union management. That's fair enough - for future acts. For Poison 13 and Agony Column, such fairness went the way of the "Baby Jesus" flier. Although the groups will be allowed to play at the Union Building in the future, the University let a noisy few pressure it into action. The fact that they were Christian groups - experts at spotting wrongs - undoubtedly added to the pressure. Obviously, if the bands had planned to charbroil a baby "live in concert," canceling the show would have been appropriate. As it happened, it was just plain dumb.

2004-02-17 15:55:10

compton :

Flyer controversy halts show BYLINE STACEY FREEDENTHAL University students said they were shocked and disgusted after two bands posted fliers of the biblical character Joseph - salt shaker in one hand, two-pronged fork in the other - barbecuing baby Jesus with the Virgin Mary standing aside holding a plate. Beside the charbroiler sit two dogs, paws in air, begging for scraps. The advertisement was for the bands Poison 13 and Agony Column, who were scheduled to perform Friday night at the Texas Tavern. The bands did not play. "It was deemed in the best interests of the Texas Union to postpone the show to disassociate ourselves from the poster," said Tom Bowie, Texas Tavern manager. "I immediately saw that some folks might be offended by it." Frank Kozik, the artist who created the drawing for the 300 fliers, agreed. "I admit that the poster's offensive, but we live in America and there's freedom of speech and all that," he said. "It's meant to be shocking," he said. "It's not meant to be taken seriously." But some people took it quite seriously. Jon Neff, a member of the Disciples Student Fellowship who complained to Bowie about the advertisement, said, "I can't think of any Christian people I showed it to who didn't get upset and angry." Seven students - most of them leaders of Christian student organizations - submitted a letter last week to The Daily Texan's Firing Line to protest the advertisement. "While the representation of any baby being tortured is reprehensible, we find this depiction of Jesus to be especially abhorrent," the letter stated. "As Christians, we are deeply offended by this travesty of our Lord ... " Kozik remained undaunted. "I think it's hilarious," he said. "A lot of people serve the Lord in their own way. I prefer to barbecue him." While Poison 13 has said it will still hire Kozik for advertisements, the artist said he regrets the bands' shows were canceled because the fliers' design was his idea. "The whole sickness of it - or whatever you want to call it - was mine," said Kozik, a 25-year-old Austin Community College student. Bill Anderson, a guitarist for Poison 13, said band members wished the shows could have gone on. "I think it was a shame that the Union was scared of a little controversy," said Anderson, a UT graduate. "I would have rather played and had some protesting. That would have been fine with me." Bowie said he received only one complaint regarding the flier, but the decision to postpone the bands' appearances was made by higher ranking administrators, such as Ronald Brown, vice president for student affairs, and William Smith, Texas Union director. Because of this incident, Bowie said contracts will now state that all advertisements with the Union's name on them must be approved by Union management. Bowie said the bands will play soon at the Union, but a date has yet to be determined.

2004-02-17 15:54:44

compton :

pretty sure this one is going in the exhibit. wanna find the story in the daily texan to print out and put in the case with it. that would be cool. anyone happen to have a copy of the story? we'll have to look in the archives at ut. 8)

2004-02-16 22:03:37

John A :

666 Guns for Satan

2004-02-09 12:49:00

jasoncross :

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2004-02-09 12:46:20

rockologist :

i had an old original one of these in my hand yesterday.

2004-02-09 12:40:39

compton :

excuse me, bbq-ing baby Jesus.

2004-01-26 20:46:39

compton :

hmm...well, i wonder how the bbq-ing baby will go over. :-? doesn't hurt to try, if anyone complains, we could just whip out the ole "librarians dont ban" on em.

2004-01-26 20:46:21

stinkbait :

"considering?" you best put this one in. It's a doozer...

2004-01-26 19:53:44

compton :

i thought 87 was a little late. thanks frank. good info. jc

2004-01-26 19:37:03

kozik :

nope. first poster was for DARK MOTIVE. 1981 or so

2004-01-26 18:04:49

compton :

Frank, a guy I work with donated a copy of this poster to the history center and I am considering putting it up in the exhibit. He said that this was your first poster. Is that true? Sincerely, Jennifer

2004-01-26 18:03:43

MaximumFluoride :

Classic

2003-05-30 01:29:21

kozik :

no..I just thought it was funny. I was amazed when everyone freaked out.

2003-04-02 13:34:11

philaarts.com :

like with this poster you didnt expect to get shit right? or did you? did you ever do a poster, and your intent was to really piss of people and it totally worked... ?

2003-04-02 13:26:20

kozik :

I also got a lot of shit from the lefties for my 2 'answer me1' covers...one was Hitler as jesus the other was the 'rape issue'. over all..I have seen like a lot more hatred and censorship attempts by 'punks' and 'lefties' than by 'conservatives'.

2003-04-02 13:21:49

Finch :

I would imagine that this one would be pretty high up on Art's Controversy Scale: http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=8443

2003-04-02 13:21:46

kozik :

I got a lot of shit here for the melvins poster with the chick riding Jesus..mostly from left wing dyke groups. Also, Entertainment weekly slammed my soundgarden video for being 'evil'. So, I have manged to piss of both the left, right and center at some point. Which rules.

2003-04-02 13:19:02

art chantry :

at least it's legible.

2003-04-02 13:10:39

philaarts.com :

i was just joking, sounds great.. what was the most "controversial" poster you have done, both art and frank.

2003-04-02 13:05:48

art chantry :

phillarts - oh, come on! how many times have you seen a poster not only get a show closed down and massive editorial condemnation, but cause a fucking RIOT? huh? name one that can match that one, dude.

2003-04-02 13:03:52

kozik :

hey man..this poster caused like a mass protest on campus of Christian kids. It changed University policy and fueled a huge series of 'censorship' issues in the local press. pretty good for a pathetic little hand drawn poster. like..it got NOTICED..and totally 'did it's job'. whats really funny is I just sort of doodled it out without any thought...

2003-04-02 13:01:57

philaarts.com :

man i was thinking mass murder or orgies of drugs... all that build up... dammit art!!! oh cool poster :bang:

2003-04-02 12:59:30

kozik :

ah..Ok..the University Of Texas has a big 'Student Union' building and they would occasionally do shows..the guy that ram it George( he's a story unto himself..he's is now the largest dealer of Stevie Nicks collectibles in the owrld) was a pretty cool guy so he set up this Poison 13 show. ( Wx Big Boys members-Tim Kerr and Chris Gates) excellent band...and I do this poster. It gets put up all over town and some Christian Student groups just totally lose it and force the university to cancell the show AND change the policy to no more shows at all. The University newspaper ran it on the cover of the next weeks issue...basically to piss every one off even more..it got all kinds of press and sunsequent Poison 13 shows had increased attendance.

2003-04-02 12:57:47

art chantry :

so, frank. tell this story. it almost fits into the 'illegible' poster thread - as far as weirdness goes...

2003-04-02 12:18:53

art chantry :

i hope frank tells the story. it's a good'n.

2003-04-02 08:25:56

stinkbait :

micael priest told this story on the poster discussion panel at SXSW. pretty good indeed...

2003-04-02 08:24:40

art chantry :

frank - you need to tell the story of this poster....

2003-04-02 07:21:07

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