i think i AM actually offended by this poster - either that or any particularly stupid comments...
and on 90% of the stuff here? nae chance of being offended. think its only been PM's Moors Murderers prints that've made me think twice about any morality in what i'm looking at. and maybe they should
only my opinion... as said before, just read up on jap WWII POW stuff, so probably over sensitive to the subject right now
I cant help imagining the imminent angle of the executioners chop ever since I was a kid and first saw this. I think the poor fellow literally gets his face chopped off here... Unless the dude comes around from behind at the last minute and takes off his whole head. Whether or not it is a good poster is another story.
It isn't about being offended.
I don't get the impression anyone is offended. I'm not.
The poster is provocative. It brings this shit up. So people talk about it. People also make beheading puns. I enjoy both.
Some people (Hai Dave) seem to get 'offended' by ninjas talking about something seriously and are 'troubled' when it gets in the way of an uninterrupted lowest common denominator vomment stream.
There's plenty of room for both.
Half wrong, half right. Australian: Sgt. Leonard Siffleet, but photographed by a private on the executioner's command.
i don't think it's an age thing. unless i'm mistaken, i recall this image is from WWII, and it's a Brit or Australian POW about to be executed in a Japanese POW camp. i first saw the photograph in late middle or high school, when i got super interested in photojournalism. i saw a lot of images as a kid then that were from decades before i was born that were amazing, terrible, and unfortunately stuck in my head in a not-always good way. which, is hopefully one of the finer points of good war photography. i want to say that this was a robert capa? i'm sure i'm wrong.
MY POINT is (long windedly) that it's not really age, but maybe more personality and empathetic response that makes a body react or not react to a photo like this. i'm not offended by the poster, i agree that it's a good play, however unfunny and totally fucked, on the situation captured here. RIP soldier. war sucks.
This sort of thing is always pretty tricky. Lots of really great rock posters, album covers, etc make use of this sort of imagery. And I think Tom's right in chalking it up to generational indifference. But the circumstance surely is the differentiating factor here. A tragedy may be unexpected and may seem unfair, but an execution of someone bound and blindfolded is another category all-together. I'm sure the guy pictured still has family members somewhere who would be tremendously hurt by this goofy manipulation of what would be, for them, a truly painful thing to look at. BUT that's what makes a lot of these kinds of things what they are, and what gives them their counter-cultural, subversive, anti-social aesthetic.
Well, I'm serious in the sense of how I'm guessing, say, a 20 year-old feels about this photo (ie one guy in the '70s about to die is no different than 36 people dying in 1937). *I* think it's borderline distasteful, but I think it's because of my age. The same way I will probably never be "cool" with a WTC poster.
I'm not saying the younger generation of whatever example we're talking about is RIGHT, I'm just saying a generational difference in perception exists.
Tom- Presuming you're serious, which is probably foolish...
I see a pretty major distinction between an image of the Hindenburg disaster (accident) and a lighthearted (-headed?) treatment of a pic of a POW being executed.
Kinda like that image in the LJ feed thread, of the napalmed girl 'shopped to look like Kermit the Frog. 1% funny, 99% not cool.
I don't have a 'problem' with this image being used, and as I said I can enjoy it for what it is, which is a great poster that derives a lot of its impact from 'going there.'
led zep cover was an ink drawing taken from the famous hindenburg pic... this being an actual photo of one of the many victims of the endless atrocities and barbarism carried out by The Imperial Army of Japan is very different - i think anyway
...mainly cos ive only just finished reading the memoirs of one of the few remaining british POWs in the jap death camps. still feeling sick thinking about what these poor souls were put through
I think anyone who has a problem with this image being reappropriated needs to remember that 36 people died on the cover of Led Zeppelin's self-titled album. I think as soon as a generation or so passes, stuff like this goes from potent imagery to abstract violence.
every time i've seen the original photo, all i can think is what that poor bastard thought as he heard the clicking of the camera right before he was beheaded. what an extra little piece of crap before being executed on your knees in the goddamned mud.