Golden Printing Boy :

I saw this at flatstock for the first time today, great poster.

2010-03-20 22:38:21

perkins :

This got entertaining for a bit there.

2009-08-16 18:59:57

vastagh :

do i have to give you credit for the idea?

2009-08-14 18:52:23

art chantry :

i got a better idea. why don't YOU buy all of them and do it?

2009-08-14 18:29:43

vastagh :

art, if tuffy doesn't want to do it, lets buy ALL of them and cut them ourselves and then sell them for DOUBLE!

2009-08-14 18:25:00

art chantry :

you're interested in my crotch? wha?

2009-08-14 18:15:02

Skully :

Art seems a little crotchety.

2009-08-14 18:08:50

ImJustRickG :

Art - maybe Tuffy should take it out into the woods and shoot it...?

2009-08-14 15:21:41

bathroom monkey :

i dont like holes in posters, if anyone cares about my feelings.

2009-08-14 12:46:44

vastagh :

i like the way art thinks, t. I have an adjustable circle cutter for buttons that goes up to 3". that would be most excellent. let's make this happen.

2009-08-14 12:41:02

Plantweed :

"sonic youth made it ok to" _____ Indie dorks to like black metal. Non-ironically, of course.

2009-08-14 11:32:24

art chantry :

gotcha

2009-08-14 11:26:30

dennyschmickle :

;)

2009-08-14 11:24:59

art chantry :

correction: everybody who counts.

2009-08-14 11:21:21

dennyschmickle :

ummmm... not everybody.

2009-08-14 11:20:15

art chantry :

tuffy - here's the genius move that will turn this poster into a hit for everybody involved (especially you).... it's a 45 sleve right? cut the hole out ogf the poster. a poster of a 45 sleeve with a bigass hole in the middle. everybody will love it. -art

2009-08-14 11:17:52

mark@methanestudios :

have not read the thread but it looks cool so there you have it

2009-08-14 07:25:43

andydiesel :

art- no, if a dork gets rich it just makes him a rich dork. It was how well spoken he was and his outlook on life and business that gave me some respect for him. Kinda like there are bands i hate, yet still have respect for due to their talent or social awareness.

2009-08-13 14:57:18

Josh Rickun :

most of tuffy's posters look pretty weak on here, but they look glorious in person.

2009-08-13 14:51:52

oxygen :

back to the topic, this is xeroxing someone else work for a really weak poster.

2009-08-13 14:44:37

ImJustRickG :

Wow, Napoleon Dynamite and Office Space references almost back to back. Time to move on.

2009-08-13 14:18:43

seireyho :

i celebrate his entire catalog.

2009-08-13 13:36:36

Young Monster :

i think the length of the post is dorked out!

2009-08-13 13:29:44

art chantry :

still a dork. no doubt.

2009-08-13 13:25:09

victor_howitzer :

If Kenny G could play the sonics on his flute would that make him less of a dork or intensify his square persona?

2009-08-13 13:21:33

art chantry :

if a dork gets rich, is he no longer a dork? do we now respect him as a "smart business man"? a dork with money? or is he still just a dork?

2009-08-13 13:18:25

andydiesel :

total dork. the interview i saw on the Sunday Morning show did make me respect him a bit.

2009-08-13 13:06:24

art chantry :

but i still think kenny g is a dork.

2009-08-13 13:04:32

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

back in '82 i could throw a football over them mountains.

2009-08-13 13:01:31

art chantry :

back in 1983, we all thought we were cool. kinda like you guys right now.

2009-08-13 12:59:20

phoondaddy :

HOW DARE KENNY G BE NICE AND POLITE!What an asshole!

2009-08-13 12:49:18

ImJustRickG :

When I lived in NY, my roomie and I used to go to Other Music all the time. It seemed like every other day they would have a new bootleg disc of Lee Renaldo and Steve Shelley playing some crazy 72-minute freakout jam. It was as if we were always chasing these shows ("look! This was recorded last Tuesday!") but never found any. Those were like what sonic youh was SUPPOSED to sound like.

2009-08-13 12:47:33

art chantry :

kenny g? man, about 1983, i had to do a photo shoot (no bullets) with him for the cover of the rocket. kenny gorlick. went to franklin high school in south seattle. he was the nicest, sweetest guy. he's everything you'd imagine and way more. the whole time he smiled and snuggled with his girl friend constantly. he spoke in a soft friendly voice he was cooperative and kept saying "thank you." man i wanted to strangle him the whole time. we picked the worst photo from the whole session to use on the cover. his eyes were closed. that was our way of saying his music was so boring it even put him to sleep. fucking rich, too.

2009-08-13 12:32:19

Rob :

ed, they probably picked the same song, ed.

2009-08-13 10:23:26

bathroom monkey :

why did eggers and watt need each other to pick a song? it must be harder than i thought to pick songs.

2009-08-13 10:22:11

Rob :

'Hits Are For Squares' "Bull in the Heather," selected by Catherine Keener "Sugar Kane," selected by Beck "100%," selected by Mike D "Kool Thing," selected by Radiohead "Disappearer," selected by Portia De Rossi "Superstar," selected by Diablo Cody "Stones," selected by Allison Anders "Tuff Gnarl," selected by Dave Eggers and Mike Watt "Teenage Riot," selected by Eddie Vedder "Shadow of a Doubt," selected by Michelle Williams "Rain on Tin," selected by Flea "Tom Violence," selected by Gus Van Zant "Mary-Christ," selected by David Cross "World Looks Red," selected by Chloe Sevigny "Expressway to Yr Skull," selected by Flaming Lips "Slow Revolution," exclusive new Sonic Youth recording

2009-08-13 10:18:48

andydiesel :

Kenny G is a major investor in Starbucks which is most likely why they have music for sale in there. in fact i think he may have been the first person to invest in them.

2009-08-13 10:06:38

Casey Burns :

that starbucks disc was a comp of SY tracks selected by celebrities with one new track, if memory serves correctly. the cover art and title were great. hits are for squares.

2009-08-12 17:52:39

danstiles :

Sonic Youth rules.

2009-08-12 17:50:39

Tenebrini :

I keep going back to 1000 Leaves.

2009-08-12 17:31:50

slater :

SY talks about how hard their starbucks disk is to get in an interview somewhere...I'll see if I can find it. It's like one of their rarer discs and I do believe it was one of the collaborative ones. I don't feel that SY has compromised their sound over the years. They've just grown and I love The Eternal.

2009-08-12 17:06:03

art chantry :

i think yer cool.

2009-08-12 17:02:18

lil_tuffy :

My mantra is "I Rule."

2009-08-12 17:01:01

ricv64 :

it suites the band

2009-08-12 17:00:51

victor_howitzer :

That song Kool Thing is watered down enough that I can handle it. The rest of Sonic Youth that I've heard I find irritating. I find this poster soothing.

2009-08-12 17:00:16

danstiles :

Art rules.

2009-08-12 16:59:57

art chantry :

oh, i forgot the most important rule of all: rule five: we're cool. 'cos we get to meet rock stars once in a while.

2009-08-12 16:53:41

art chantry :

rules? rule one of gigposter club: there are no rules. rule two: you can do whatever you want until you're caught. rule three: don't let rule number two stop you. rule four: all the rules are to be ignored at all times.

2009-08-12 16:51:12

Tenebrini :

Mitch, for the record (tongue in cheek)... now that I understand all the details I've moved on again. Before, after... doesn't seem to matter now that the rules have changed. It's just a poster. RIGHT!?

2009-08-12 16:46:46

thenailmc :

And this is rad.

2009-08-12 16:11:49

thenailmc :

Sheesh @ these comments.

2009-08-12 16:03:31

Grzeca :

Oh, Andy.

2009-08-12 16:02:21

vastagh :

"for the record" !!!!11!!! way to go mitch!

2009-08-12 15:59:07

thenailmc :

Steve, for the record, this show happened after the series and wasn't a part of those dates (fwiw).

2009-08-12 15:52:24

art chantry :

the experience still sucks. it will happen again many more times. you'll never get used to it. it'll just become familiar.

2009-08-12 12:07:43

crosshair :

Crucifixion! Gardner is Design Jesus.

2009-08-12 12:06:19

Tenebrini :

Oh I see... it depends on what window you're reading them in... my brain feels empty... I need to find a Gyro.

2009-08-12 11:53:23

Tenebrini :

The ability to format copy in a comment would rule.

2009-08-12 11:48:42

Tenebrini :

I have no problem with this poster. I don't think it's great but I don't think it sucks. I like other Tuffy creations better. Just to set the record straight. And I have no beef with any artist in particular. My initial comment had nothing to do with the origin of the spiral, more the attitude of the community towards activity like this... That is find some image, don't do much if anything to it at all, turn into poster. Some are crucified, some are praised. Gardner is a douche but he's not the first I've seen this crucifixion happen to in the years I've been hanging around here. Art... I know exactly where you are coming from which is why I didn't make too much stink about it in the first place. I didn't feel like finding out if I would be supported in my gripe or smacked down for being a crybaby and I moved on. This poster made it explode out of me like a baby alien. It is what it is. Shit happens I guess...

2009-08-12 11:48:00

art chantry :

don't be so... sensitive... or whatever. this is a really good poster. the concept is rushed and not the best (even you admit that). but it is a really really great looking thing. an excellent piece you should be proud of. hell, i'd frame and hang this thing, it's so nice.

2009-08-12 11:15:43

kentdd :

Nice poster.

2009-08-12 11:08:15

lil_tuffy :

Ha. I'm working on a playing card poster as we speak. I'm sure that will go over like a lead balloon as well.

2009-08-12 11:07:34

art chantry :

7" sleeves have been used as graphic design themes for decades. first time i did it was back in the 1970's when i was still learning to do this stuff. think of it as "design 101 level" concept work. sort of like playing card posters.

2009-08-12 11:02:19

ImJustRickG :

Also, just as an aside - other people have used old 7" sleeves for posters and nobody says a word. This 'Doublethink' person is someone with an axe to grind.

2009-08-12 10:57:13

art chantry :

tennebrini - cracks me up. your gripe is legitimate and you have been wronged by a new system that further screws us over (again). sorry to hear that. however, the thing that really makes me laugh is that this has also happened to me several times this year and every time i try to mention my gripe, everybody dumps on me like i'm a killjoy and the my complaint is dismissed as laughable. on the other hand, you have the same thing happen and you get acknowledgment and sympathy. this is one of the reasons i wanted you to be more specific in the double standards you point out. it gets so confusing around here.

2009-08-12 10:33:20

John A :

wait... does errwon have starbucks now? I thought that was a local joint.

2009-08-12 10:31:33

Robbie Fuct :

look at denny. trying to steal sonic youth's spotlight AGAIN!

2009-08-12 10:31:27

dennyschmickle :

who cares? If I had the opportunity to sell my shjt at starbucks, walmart, or friggin 7-11, I'd be all over it. No problem.

2009-08-12 10:25:16

Dusty! :

did they actually sell SY music at starbucks or just the SY currated disc they had a few years ago. Big difference.

2009-08-12 10:15:05

Michael Apparatus :

well see. that makes even more sense. It's a lovely poster.

2009-08-12 10:11:52

lil_tuffy :

This poster was not part of the poster series and this show was a "last minute" addition. Hence, why it was handled differently than the rest of the poster series.

2009-08-12 10:08:12

Michael Apparatus :

Oooof. Whatta mess. It seems more like the band management could've tried to make sure you were part of the series because you were working on something already. It'd be tough for the person organizing the series to know if anyone in any random city had started working on a poster (unless you told them).

2009-08-12 10:07:29

philaarts.com :

maybe gilf, and no.

2009-08-12 08:41:53

Sash :

kim gordon milf?

2009-08-12 08:22:20

Tenebrini :

Billy, I've already stated a few times that I have no beef with Tuffy. Maybe "shit something out" was harsh... a crime of passion. Jay Ryan got the date that was yanked from me, and I knew he'd make something cool and he did. No beef with him either.

2009-08-12 08:18:09

Tenebrini :

Mayer, the voice of reason. Frightening.

2009-08-12 08:16:25

perkins :

No need to dis Tuffy, all he did was do his job. Your beef is with management.

2009-08-12 08:15:51

philaarts.com :

"sonic youth made it ok to" _____

2009-08-12 08:14:31

Tenebrini :

I was over it until this poster and the details behind it surfaced. I mean... I could see if I was some noob on "the scene" that one would disregard my involvement in a "coveted poster" series... but that's not the case. I'm not a noob. The stuff I had cooking was every bit as good as anything I've seen in this series. So the translation I hear in my head now is "No Steve, you're not one of us. Step aside. We need to let Tuffy shit something out in a day. Those rules we've all discussed 'til we're blue in the face, the ones about permissions that you've been playing by like us pros? Well, those rules don't apply here. We're making a new set of rules that serve us better. This is OFFICIAL and you're not welcome in this new playground we're building." How hard would it have been to say... "Sorry dude, here's a later date that we need something for..." I mean... if Tuffy only had a day.? Gimme a fucking break.

2009-08-12 08:13:29

deforgeo :

That really stinks, Tenebrini.

2009-08-12 08:11:34

philaarts.com :

noone really likes sonic youth.

2009-08-12 08:11:25

crosshair :

Definitely a legitimate gripe. Seem like the sort of gripe that could be redressed and made good on fairly easily in the future, given that all parties are people of good intentions.

2009-08-12 08:11:06

DWITT :

Ouch. That sucks, Steve.

2009-08-12 08:00:29

Unitus :

I think that's a pretty legitimate gripe.

2009-08-12 07:56:36

Tenebrini :

No... just me. Righteous indignation. Suck it.

2009-08-12 07:54:37

bathroom monkey :

people are still bitching about the poster series?

2009-08-12 07:26:02

Tenebrini :

Let me preface this by saying that this has nothing to do with Tuffy personally... but one "One day to do the poster" makes my blood boil. I had legitimately gotten permission to do a Sonic Youth poster BEFORE the tour series was arranged. FROM BAND MANAGEMENT. and had spent more than "a day" thinking, designing etc... only to have it later yanked back from everyone that had given me permission (yes even band management)to MAKE WAY FOR THE PROFESSIONALLY PRODUCED OFFICIAL TOUR SERIES. So to now find out that a date was handed over to someone with only a day to come up with something burns even more and further solidifies the notion that 99% of what is said on this site about ethics, best practice, whatever is just complete self serving, incestuous bullshit. This "community" that supposedly is so tight knit and looking out for each other... bullshit. Again, this has nothing to do with Tuffy, the person. Let the games begin.

2009-08-12 07:06:43

MrBlonde7 :

May Psych textbooks haunt your dreams.

2009-08-12 01:51:36

lil_tuffy :

The criticisms are valid. I would not change anything. I am happy with the poster. I'm going to sleep soundly. Good night!

2009-08-12 01:44:42

ImJustRickG :

Sheesh. I wish I knew someone who needed a Sonic Youth poster RIGHT AWAY and the first person they think of to call is me.

2009-08-12 01:43:07

MrBlonde7 :

You know what's weirder to me than someone alleging Tuffy ripping shit? The fact that "Doublethink," the accuser, registered his name on 08/11/09. So....which one of you guys is it REALLY?

2009-08-12 01:37:57

MrBlonde7 :

Rick G is smart. Tuffy: Beware of the "one day to do a poster" defense. It ventures into the Rifle Sport chicken territory.

2009-08-12 01:35:54

lil_tuffy :

Thank you Sonic Youth. You made it ok to: appropriate vintage 7" jacket inserts. -- I had one day to do a poster for this show. It was quick and dirty and this design was on my mind... I didn't intend to do the same colors but by the time finished printing it was identical. Psychology at work, indeed.

2009-08-12 01:33:53

ImJustRickG :

Not the same thing. The old record sleeve wasn't capital-A art; reusing it here is totally different from the Paul Gardner scenario. This is a forgotten piece of ephemera put into a new context, not fine art scanned, autotraced and passed off as Tuffys work. I do agree that there's a double standard maybe, but SOME people have just blatantly stolen artwork and said "I made this". Yeah, those people would have been crucified - and deservedly, because they have a history of stealing shit. Tuffy is one of the best designers we have, and I see a huge difference between reuse and theft - a line he doesn't cross.

2009-08-12 01:31:02

deforgeo :

Do I believe in God? Do I believe in me? Some people wanna die so they can be free I said life is just a game, were all just the same Do you wanna play? Controversy!

2009-08-11 22:33:37

Skully :

lol @ chantry

2009-08-11 22:25:14

Gregory :

paul gardner did something douchey

2009-08-11 22:02:04

Robbie Fuct :

what are you vaginas blabbing about now?

2009-08-11 21:55:14

Pfahlert Creative Labs :

i wonder if he bought that Psychology text book.

2009-08-11 20:58:34

evanmarnoch :

I agree with Tenebrini.

2009-08-11 20:30:19

scott campbell :

old Science and Psychology text book design is tite

2009-08-11 19:04:43

Tenebrini :

That motorcycle ride home does wonders for resetting the brain on things to care about. Someone who gives a damn bring Art up to speed. Or don't.

2009-08-11 18:01:04

art chantry :

early SY was great, however. now they should get some sleep. they're old and tired.

2009-08-11 17:35:44

art chantry :

sonic youth kinda SOUNDS like a psychology today magazine. complex and interestingly dull.

2009-08-11 17:35:05

art chantry :

tennebrini - no, i'm not. what double standard are you referring to? there are so many floating around here, that i really don't know which one you are cracking wise about. honest.

2009-08-11 17:32:23

Tenebrini :

Art. You're kidding right?

2009-08-11 17:07:43

victor_howitzer :

I don't mean this as an insult. But it looks like it would be on the cover of a Psychology text book. Psychology text books can have bitchin' designs as well.

2009-08-11 17:06:01

art chantry :

doiuble standard? here on gigposters? do tell!

2009-08-11 17:03:49

Tenebrini :

I don't care about this poster at all. The double standard at play is wicked retahded.

2009-08-11 17:02:17

ZOMIC :

the colors are amazing.

2009-08-11 16:57:23

art chantry :

starpuke's? man, is that what became of the legendary sonic youth? latte's? well, that's NYC for ya. a city of pimps. er... wait. that's tacoma... li'l tuffy is one of the best poster makers on this sight. this is a really great poster. it's just not a very imaginative design. it's still great. so what?

2009-08-11 16:53:12

Platinum Rich :

this is a poster for a band that sells cd's at starbucks. i'm sure the people who go there would love this with a scone and a latte so it does the job.

2009-08-11 15:38:05

MaximumFluoride :

I'm with Steve. Some people would get HAMMERED if they submitted this.

2009-08-11 15:02:21

Zach Hobbs :

We have our own way of spelling shit too. Weawhd.

2009-08-11 14:59:58

Sash :

when shit's tite... that's consTpation

2009-08-11 14:26:06

art chantry :

a foreigner? get back over that border before we send the minutemen on yer sorry ass...

2009-08-11 14:19:00

Young Monster :

no. "Tite" like "shits tite. pass them findledandles" its how we talk in the southern ghettohe.

2009-08-11 14:16:43

art chantry :

tight? sure. but, good lord, before somebody starts suing somebody, lets' get real. make me laugh.

2009-08-11 14:11:54

Young Monster :

Yeh - well - shits still tite. Those color combos is BAHAHANGIN. In all three versions I still be getting sprung.

2009-08-11 14:10:36

art chantry :

don't sweat it. this isn't exactly the mona lisa or nuthin. i mean, it's pretty basic color theory design 101 stuff. looks nice, but pretty silly when somebody starts shouting "rip-off." get a life.

2009-08-11 14:08:47

Tenebrini :

Paul Gardner would be tarred and feathered for this.

2009-08-11 14:07:56

fantasygoat :

I used the same swirl on my Shad poster, probably from the same record sleeve. http://www.gigposters.com/poster/102223_Shad.html

2009-08-11 14:05:53

Tenebrini :

Does the texture advance the image?

2009-08-11 14:01:03

doublethink :

http://wanken.com/blog/2009/02/24/record_factory_sleeve_2.jpg http://blog.wanken.com/2009/02/from-the-record-factory-designspiration/#more-407 hmmmmmmmm... something's fishy.

2009-08-11 13:54:46

anchoresse :

get out of here...this is awesome.

2009-08-11 08:24:26

telegramme :

really REALLY like this! the colours are amazing.

2009-08-11 03:25:46

Beto Ramirez :

Wow, love it!

2009-08-10 10:45:21

Grzeca :

The whole series is insanely good. Love this esp. I think the circular motif on many was probably inspired by the John Fahey painting on the cover of the new LP.

2009-08-10 08:47:11

dennyschmickle :

word!

2009-08-10 08:37:46

standard :

is good.

2009-08-10 08:32:18

CONCEPCION :

amazing.

2009-08-09 22:27:16

crosshair :

lovely

2009-08-09 19:22:06

100degrees :

nice!...

2009-08-09 16:53:24

scott campbell :

rules

2009-08-09 16:35:34

derekgabryszak :

dig it.

2009-08-09 15:19:40

electr. :

make sure, you bring these over to FS E4, tuffington!

2009-08-09 14:46:21

Scrawled :

Like this a lot...texture and colour mesemerize!

2009-08-09 14:13:34

twoducksdisco :

This is very very good Lil!

2009-08-09 13:11:08

guybur :

it looks simple but there is something different about this for Tuffy. i cant put my toe on it exactly. It is interesting (or not) how there are similar themes handled in the SY series this time. Jeff and I and Little used orange/yello blues (and glow in the dark), Jay, delicious, Tuff and Stakes and the Mafia all went straight process colors with eerily similar circular motifs. Meth and Godzooki and the Giant went CYMK too. It seems like a lot of overlap for just a few posters from a few geniuses. ;)

2009-08-09 11:59:26

El Negro Magnifico! :

So cool. Not sure why, I thought of a version of the Atlantic Records logo when I saw this. Probably because I liked watching it spin on the turntable when I was a kid. There's some nice motion in this.

2009-08-09 11:46:17

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